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WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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IPUC, PO Box 83720, Boise, ID 83720-0074.
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 6:09 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Anna Mason follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-99-92
Name: Anna Mason
Address: 1598 W. Dolan Road
City: Rathdrum
State: Idaho
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: 29a 6874165
Contact E-Mail: AMason4a18~aol.com
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I S i Water Co.
Please describe your comment briefly:
The above referenced utility company has requested a 119% increase in it i S rates for water
service. Please do not approve this request. If approved these increased rates could force
me to sell my home. The property in this development is a minimum of 5 acres and for the
most part at least some of the property has to be landscaped unless it is abundant with
trees. To ensure against fire danger a safe green space must be kept around the house and it
must be watered. If the increase request is granted it could cost almost $599 in the summer
months which is outrageous and unconscionable. While I agree that some increase may be
necessary due to rising costs, in general this request is pure greed and profiteering. We
are all experiencing rising costs so this would create a definite hardship. In the hot
months of July and August my water usage can go as high as 217,999 gallons.. .can you imagine
what that would cost? Please do not approve this request as submitted by Bar Circle i S i
Water Co.
Thank you for your consideration.
The form submitted on http://www.puc.idaho.gov/forms/ipuc1/ipuc.html
IP address is 98.145.76.26
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Tuesday, November 03,20095:29 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Seth Steele follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: Seth Steele
Address: 17628 Circle S Trail
City: Rathdrum,
State: ID
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: seth~nwcaddesign.com
Name of Utili ty Compa~bar circle SAdd to Mailing List: ~
Please describe your comment briefly:
I have read thru this case and would like to state some facts. I live at the far end of
circle s, my wife Jamie and I are buying this house from her father jeffrey hank hester. I
would like to add that I am ok with some increase as there are costs with maintaining
systems. I think that they are asking for to much. and here is why
1. During the summer I cannot run sprinklers in the front and back yards at the same time. If
I try they only maybe go 10 ft. The water pressure here sucks, if they increase the rates at
all I feel I should get more water pressure. I haven't complained yet because I pay a
reasonable amount for my water right now
2. I did not water all summer because my lawn mower quit. I never used less than 10K gallons
of water, my bill stayed around $40.00. I'm ok with an increase that would have brought that
to $60.00
3. Last summer I watered all summer long and my bill stayed around $140.00 thats an
reasonable amount (I used in the mid 200' s gallons of water) and even a %50 increase would
make that $210.00 what there asking would make my bill over $300 a month. This is not
reasonable. and I believe if this is allowed I should have the option of putting in my own
Well and this would go against our CCR' s.
4. We plan on installing a sprinkler system this spring, for fire safety and property value
we as a community need to be able to water and keep things green. at an affordable rate. And
how will future buyers look at the property with such a large utility bill
5. there asking for an increase on a system that doesn't provide enough water pressure to
allow me to run 6 sprinklers at a time. Right now I'm lucky to run 2, and like I said I
haven't complained because the rates are reasonable.
6. garwood elementary is on this water system. an increase of this amount would
substaintially increase there water bill, as they have a large playground, baseball field
and soccer field that they maintain. this in turn would increase my taxes. along with my
personal water bill
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7. This particular water system has already been paid for by the people that built these
houses. they already paid, and we pay every month on this system. I understand there are
costs involved but our water bill pays those costs.
This community and this system is seperate from any other and should be looked at that way.
I'm sorry if he's built other subdivisions that aren't selling land, but they eventually will
and those systems will be paid for by the people that buy those properties. This system it
has been bought and paid for and our monthly bill more than pays for the maintenance.
AL TERNATIVE
I do agree with the $15 per month minimun is to low. I would agree to have the minimun raised
to even $4Ø for the 1ØK gallons. because I believe the average family uses around 1ØK. This
would make a minimun bill still manageable even in hard times. I would also agree to a small
increase in overage. MAYBE from .95 cents to 1.lØ this is a reasonable increase. but for
even that I want more water pressure in return.
We need to be able to keep our yards green affordably
Thank you for your time.
The form submitted on http://www . puc. idaho. gov /forms/ipuc1/ipuc. html
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Tuesday, November 03, 2009 4: 1 0 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Emmett & Lynn Florea follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: Emmett & Lynn Florea
Address: 16897 N. Wrangler Road
City: Rathdrum
State: Idaho
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: florea~roadrunner.com
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle'S' Water Company Add to Mailing List: ~
Please describe your comment briefly:
We purchased our property in 1980 and at that time there were not many homes out here. There
was a sign at the end of the street on Garwood road which stated this development had 2
sources of water; one for human consumption and one for irrigation purposes. If this were
indeed the case, we would not object so much to a raise in charges. The increase that has
been requested is just absurd! An increase because of inflation would be understandable - but
why should we have to pay for all improvements to the entire system out here. My husband and
I have recently retired and are living on a fixed income. We try to be conservative in our
use of water and use between 20- 30,000 gals for the summer months. The remainder of the year
we are very close to the minimum use allotment. We do try to keep our lawn (1 acre) green
and looking nice, however, if the cost to water it becomes unreasonable, we will be forced to
let it go brown and to weeds. We really don't want to resort to that because it will cause
our property value to depreciate and it will be a fire hazard for everyone living out here.
Please help us keep Mr. Turnipseed i s fee request to a reasonable amount and ask him to pay
for all his new improvements with the new lots he is developing and putting on this same
water system. We have been here for 25+ years and the original water system was always
reliable and adequate for all who were on it. We sincerely hope we will not be forced out of
our home simply because of the cost of water! Thank you for the opportunity to comment - and
please, help us.
The form submitted on http://www.puc.idaho.gov/forms/ipuc1/ipuc.html
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Tuesday, November 03,20092:59 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from ROBERT & JO ANN KENNEDY follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: ROBERT & JO ANN KENNEDY
Address: 561 W DOLAN RD
City: RATHDRUM
State: 10
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: delmarbob2001~yahoo.com
Name of Utility Company: BAR CIRCLE S WATER CO Add to Mailing List :~~
Please describe your comment briefly:
We are new residents to Idaho as of this year and have a few issues with the new proposed
rates. 1) 7500 Gallons for a Baseline seems awfully low for 5+ acre parcels in this community
and this has not been increased for 19 years when this area was under - developed. A Base
increase from 7500 - 50,000 Gallons seems more reasonable based on water usage over the
growing season here. 2) Although rates have not increased in these 19 years, the proposed
hike is approx. a 119% increase in these tough economic times - a lesser increase of
somewhere around 20 - 25 % seems a lot more reasonable. 3) There is a plan for future
development of many new homes in the area which will impact the water usage/rates in the
coming future and we as residents of this community do not feel it is fair to force current
residents to pay for this proposed growth now until this occurs in the future. In regards to
any new development, we believe increasing the fees for new hookups to approx. $2500 is
reasonable and fair.
Please consider our comments and our neighbors as well when considering these large rate
increases by the Water Company.
Sincerely,
Robert & Jo Ann Kennedy
The form submitted on http://www.puc.idaho.gov/forms/ipuc1/ipuc.html
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Monday, November 02, 2009 4:25 PM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Jennifer Marsh follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-89-82
Name : Jennifer Marsh
Address: 1342 W. Dolan Rd.
City: Rathdrum
State: Idaho
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: marshfamilyx~ahoo.com
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S Water Add to Mailing List ~
Please describe your comment briefly:
I am writing to you about the projected rate increase of the Bar Circle S water company.
The rate at which the increase is scheduled to occur seems quite excessive. I i m not sure
what utility company would be allowed to increase at over 188%. When Avista increases their
rates they must prove the need for the increase. The Bar Circle S has not proven a need for
such a huge increase. A 28% increase would generate funds over the long run to compensate
the company for increased expenses. I i m concerned that if the increase occurs at such a
extreme rate that I won't be watering my lawn and surrounding property in the manner I have
in the past. I am a school teacher who has had her salary frozen. The lack of water will
increase the chance of fires. I live on five acres which are covered almost entirely by
trees. Please consider my views on this manner before making your decision.
Sincerely,
Jenny Marsh
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Monday, November 02, 2009 11 :58 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Chris Kirk follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: Chris Kirk
Address: 17823 N. Circle S trail
Ci ty: Rathdrum
State: Idaho
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: polarba~roadrunner.com
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S Water Company Add to Mailing List:~
Please describe your comment briefly:
It has been brought to my attention that the Bar circle S Water Company wants to raise our
water rates 119%. I firmly believe this to be an unfair request during our severe economic
times. My family of 4 people resides on 4.80 rural acres. We keep roughly 5/8 of an acre in
lawn, don't raise live stock and have a fire break around our home and out buildings. Our
family uses the water allotment plus some during the summer months. We do not have a
sprinkling system which the health of the lawn reflects. Our off season usage is roughly at
the allotment. We find the drastic price increase request from the water company rather
coincidental during the construction and development of more acreage owned by Mr. Turnipseed.
We also are worried that the additional usage on our aging water system will leave us plagued
with more water outages, lower pressures, hard water and volume problems. Thank you.
The form submitted on http://www . puc. idaho. gov Iforms/ipuc1/ipuc . html
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Monday, November 02, 2009 11 :34 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Adrienne Daus follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: Adrienne Daus
Address: 1427 Dolan Rd
Ci ty: Rathdrum
State: ID
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: elisa11S87~aol.com
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S
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Please describe your comment briefly:
I spent this past weekend encouraging my neighbors to submit comments regarding the propsed
BCS rate increase. However, after reading the staff report and researching the action taken
with Diamond Bar, I feel my efforts were futile. In both the Diamond Bar and BCS staff
reports it was recommended Mr. Turnipseed receive a 12% rate of return. It appears in the
case of Diamond Bar, an amount was determined to insure a minimum 12% return. Then the staff
and commission tweaked the rates to guarantee the additional revenue. For example, the
commission increased the minimum usage rate 80% instead of the 140% requested. However, the
per 1K gallon rate increased 91% vs the 15% BCS asked for. I am assuming the commission
adjusted the rates where they thought it would have the least impact but the increase was
huge.
The staff recommends a 73% rate increase for BCS, again to allow Mr. Turnipseed a 12%
return. I have no doubt the commission will grant the request. In spite of letters or hearing
testimony it will be approved because a precendent has been set with Diamond Bar.
How many companies in todays economic enviroment can be guaranteed a 12% rate of return?
After researching on money. cnn. com, in 2008 Cost co saw a 1.8%, Verizon 6.6%, Home Depot 3.2%,
IBM 11.9%, WalMart 3.3% and Microsoft 29.3%. In fact, according to the same website, the S&P
Energy Sectors average net profit margin is 9.7%. The average S&P 500 is 8.5%. The federal
cost of living adjustment is 3.5%. All well below the PUC staff recommendations for BCS of
12%. Why is Mr. Turnipseed and BCS so deserving of such a large return?
The precendent has been set. Mr Turnipseed does not have to prove or justify anything in his
application. He is not asking for the increase because of additional costs, i. e. new pump,
power costs, but rather the rate of return. All he has to show is that he did not get the
, reasonable i 12% return in the i test year i .
I would love to come to your commission and ask for a 12% return for our company and get it.
We have to work hard for it and provide outstanding service so clients return. We have no
choice with BCS, the only water company we can use.
I used to think that we could make a difference. Our voices would be heard but since the
commission has set a precendent with Diamond Bar, how can we i fight city hall'? To compensate
for Mr. Turnipseeds windfall 12% return, we will drastically reduce our water consumption to
try to keep our water bills at the current level. Because of high water rates real estate
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sales will decline even further. Our beautiful neighborhood will suffer. Landscape and
lifestyles will be impacted.
I doubt very much if many of BCS customers saw a 12% raise. We are all just trying to get
through these tough times. When you are considering your decision, perhaps you could put
yourselves in our shoes. Would you want to pay the rates you are imposing on us?
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Monday, November 02, 2009 11 :05 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Shannel follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-e9-e2
Name: Shannel
Address: 1824 W Dolan Rd
Ci ty: Rathdrum
State: ID
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: 2e8-712-3e18
Contact E-Mail: shannelsoderbeck msn.com Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S Water Company
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Please describe your comment briefly:
To Whom It May Concern, I am writing to protest the proposed base rate and usage rate that
is being proposed by the Bar Circle S Water Company. I have many concerns. I do not believe
that current water customers should be stuck with the bill paying for the new land
development (Triple T) that is to be future serviced with our water supply. Tap fees by the
new residents should cover their usage. I would like to point out that in the neighborhood we
live on, we have acreage. On our 5 acres we have four horses that we water, plus the water
it takes for our children to keep them washed and clean in the 4H projects they are deeply
involved in as well as market steer projects. This rate increase will be a hardship and we
will be forced to stop watering our lawn at the current levels. This will effect our
neighborhood property values and curb appeal. Frankly, it will look terrible to see the
lawns dry up. These are hard economic times. We are suffering financially as many are and
it is unfair to hit us with such inflated rates. We are a family of 5 who most of the year
get by with the base allotment of water. In July this year we used 76,96e Gallons and August
we used 89, 77e Gallons. We water our lawn in the late evening or early morning hours during
the dark. This water rate increase will drastically affect the property we maintain, not to
mention additional fire danger it brings to the area. I believe that in contrast to being
forced a water supplier, it should be made available to us to have al ternati ves. Perhaps
well drilling should be allowed and added to teh CC & R' s so we can maintain our own water
supply. I appreciate your careful consideration as to the impact of this inflated water
rate increase. It is sure to have consequences. At our home the additional hardship will
have consequences of it' sown.
Shannel & Wade Soderbeck
The form submitted on http://www . puc. idaho. gov! forms! ipuc1!ipuc . html
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Monday, November 02, 2009 9:56 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Melanie Moore follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-e9-ei
Name: Melanie Moore
Address: 177e8 Wrangler Road
Ci ty: Rathdrum
State: ID
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: ie8-755-e569Contact E-Mail: jmmoores1~yahoo.com ~~
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S Water Add to Mailing List:~
Please describe your comment briefly:
I believe a rate hike such as the board is seeking is very unreasonable. At this time when
homeowners are struggling to keep their homes and watching values drop, I think a 5 - 7 %
hike would be more appropriate. Just because the management of this water board has been
poor (i.e. not seeking rate hikes in small increments over a period of years) does not mean
we, as homeowner's, should bear the burden all at once.
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Monday, November 02, 2009 9:46 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Ludwig Tomasini follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: Ludwig Tomasini
Address: 17903 N. Circle S Trail
City: Rathdrum
State: Idaho
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]Contact E-Mail: ludwi~icehouse.net ~
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S Water Company Add to Mailing List:~
Please describe your comment briefly:
I have lived in the Bar Circle S developement since 1990. I don't recall the water rates
ever going up. With that in mind I must say that I don't mind a resonable rate increase,
something in the 20% range.
I live alone with a dog. The amount of water I use is usually, even in the summer, under
7,500 gallons a month. The only outside irrigating I do is a very small garden. In the
summer I notice my water pressure decreases somewhat. Not a lot but it is noticeable. I
understand that our current water system will be used for water in a new developement. I'm
sure that will facilitate my pressure dropping even more. That is kind of scary because many
of us have many trees on our property and if a fire ever gets going I doubt that the fire
hydrants will be able to sustain any decent type of pressure.
I'm wondering if Robert Turnipseed is trying to get us current homeowners to help finance his
new developement. Anyway I look at it his requested rate hike is thoughtless and
unreasonable. Please stop him.
The form submitted on http://www . puc. idaho. gov Iforms/ipuc1/ipuc. html
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Monday, November 02, 2009 5:38 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Margaret Malloy follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
. Name: Margaret Malloy
Address: 1737 W. Dolan Road
Ci ty: Rathdrum
State: ID
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: megmallo~adelphia.net
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle S Water Add to Mailing List:~
Please describe your comment briefly:
The percentage of increase Bar Circle S is requesting is absolutley ridiculous. We currently
pay in the hundreds of dollars during the summer months, and not being excessive on water
usage. COuld we possibly be supporting new developments other than ours? Why is the increase
needed, and why is the amount of increase so unbelievable?
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Monday, November 02, 2009 4:48 AM
Jean Jewell; Beverly Barker; Gene Fadness; Ed Howell
PUC Comment Form
A Comment from Vicky Anderson follows:
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Case Number: BCS-W-09-02
Name: Vicky Anderson
Address: 17681 N Wrangler Rd.
Ci ty: Rathdrum
State: Idaho
Zip: 83858
Daytime Telephone: [phone]
Contact E-Mail: mnvanderson~ahoo.com
Name of Utility Company: Bar Circle 5 Water Company Add to Mailing List ~
Please describe your comment briefly:
Please do not raise the water rates for Bar Circle S. It is already difficult/Hardship to
water our land. The first year we purchased the home the water bill went up to 400/month in
order to keep our grass green. Last year we had to let the watering go due to the costs
associated with having green grass and to keep the threat of fire away . With the recession
my husband and i have both lost our pay. I still have not found work. We have 2 horses, and
have 5 acres to care for. This would only add more di fficul ty in keeping up our acreage.
The threat of fire only causes more stress.
Mr. Turnipseed made a statment in his request for permitting on his new division that using
this water system for his new division would not cause an increase in rate to the current
occupants of Bar Circle S. So why is this happening now after all of this time? He promised
this would not happen in his original proposal. He should not be allowed to raise rates
after this promise. More over, the CC&R' s do not allow for any home owner in this water
system to have their own private well. If Mr. Turnipseed is allowed an increase of any
amount, every homeowner should have the right to choose to put their own well in. So i
propose changing the CC&R' s so that if i want to put my own well in to save money ican.
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