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BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
S. GEOTHERMAL, INC., an Idaho
corporation Case No. IPC-04-
Complainant
vs.
IDAHO POWER COMPANY, an Idaho
corporation
Respondent.
BOB LEWANDOWSKI and MARK
SCHROEDER Case No. IPC- E-04-1 0
Complainants
vs.
IDAHO POWER COMPANY, an Idaho
corporation
Respondent.
DIRECT TESTIMONY OF DANIEL N. SCHOCHET
ON BEHALF OF U.S. GEOTHERMAL, INC.
June 9, 2004
ORIGINAL
PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
My name is Daniel N. Schochet and my business address is 980 Greg Street, Sparks
Nevada, 89431-6039.
BY WHOM ARE YOU EMPLOYED AND IN WHAT CAPACITY?
I am Vice President of ORMA T Nevada, Inc., with responsibility for Market
Development
PLEASE DESCRIBE ORMA T NEVADA, INC.
ORMA T Nevada Inc. is the third largest operator of geothermal power plant projects in
the United States, as well as the leading manufacturer of modular geothermal power
plants. The Company has supplied over 700 MW in nearly 20 countries and owns and
operates geothermal power plants in 5 countries worldwide providing close to 500 MW
total. Currently ORMAT has some 200 employees in the U.A. and supplies 290 MW
total to investor owned utilities in Nevada, California and Hawaii.
WHY IS ORMA T INTERESTED IN THIS PROCEEDING?
ORMA T is both a geothermal project developer and a supplier of power plant equipment
to third party developers, which includes providing debt financing for the purchase of our
power plant equipment. As such we have an interest in fostering geothermal power
project development in as many states as possible in the U.
DOES ORMAT HAVE A SPECIFIC INTEREST IN U.S. GEOTHERMAL'
PROJECT?
Yes. We are in discussions with U.S. Geothermal regarding our possible participation in
the supply of a modular geothermal power plant to their Raft River project.
HAVE YOU REVIEWED THE COMPLAINT IN THIS PROCEEDING?
DIRECT TESTIMONY OF DANIEL N. SCHOCHET
IPUC Case Nos. IPC-O4-08 and IPC-O4-
ORMA T has reviewed the Complaint to the Idaho Public Utilities Commission against
Idaho Power Company by U.S. Geothermal, Inc. The purpose of our review was to
consider how the three proposed provisions by Idaho Power Company will influence the
ability of U.S. Geothermal, Inc. to raise debt financing for the Raft River Facility.
WILL THE ISSUES RAISED IN THE COMPLAINT HAVE AN EFFECT ON THE
FINANCING OF THE PROJECT?
Yes. In our view, all three of the Idaho Power Company proposals cited in the Complaint
will have a negative effect on U.S. Geothermal's ability to secure debt financing for its
Raft River Facility.
WHY IS THAT?
When a lender considers financing a project such as the Raft River Facility, the primary
consideration is the security and dependability of the Facility s projected revenue stream
that will be used to service the debt financing costs. Anything that negatively impacts the
revenue stream, or that increases the risk that the revenue stream may not materialize
may preclude the ability of U.S. Geothermal to attract financing.
TURNING TO THE SPECIFIC COUNTS CONTAINED IN THE COMPLAINT
WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN THE IMP ACT OF IDAHO POWER'S PROPOSAL
TO LIMIT PURCHASES FROM THE FACILITY TO 10 PEAK MEGA WATTS
RATHER THAN 10 AVERAGE MEGA WATTS?
Geothermal power plants, particularly zero emission air-cooled geothermal plants, unlike
large water cooled fossil fuel plants, produce power which varies with ambient
temperature. Limiting the purchase to 10 MW peak would simply mean that, based on a
10 MW winter peak and an 8 MW summer peak, the average power sales for the year
DIRECT TESTIMONY OF DANIEL N. SCHOCHET
IPUC Case Nos. IPC-O4-08 and IPC-O4-
would be approximately 9 MW. Similarly increasing the plant capacity to 10 MW in the
summer would mean that the increased winter generation could not be sold at the ESA
price. Either scenario increases the cost of electricity production unnecessarily.
IS THE ISSUE RAISED BY THE SECOND COUNT OF THE COMPLAINT ALSO A
CONCERN?
Yes it is. In our experience, where these types of provisions are found in a power
purchase contract, there is typically a "true up" period allowed, which is not present in
the Idaho Power Company proposal. The potential liquidated damages will significantly
increase the risk associated with financing the project.
WOULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW THE "REGULATORY OUT" PROVISION
WOULD AFFECT FINANCING?
Allowing Idaho Power Company to terminate the ESA in the event of changes to Idaho
regulatory laws would probably preclude the ability to obtain debt financing for the
Facility. Our experience is that lenders are not willing to take the risk that the Facility
might lose its revenue stream before its debt is retired.
WOULD YOU PLEAZE SUMMARIZE YOUR TESTIMONY?
Capping the Facility s sales at 10 peak megawatts, rather than 10 average megawatts, will
artificially limit U.S. Geothermal's access to debt financing. The "liquidated damages
and "regulatory out" provisions are even more serious. Both would greatly increase the
risk assumed by a debtor and, in our opinion, could make the facility difficult or
impossible to finance.
DOES THIS CONCLUDE YOUR TESTIMONY?
Yes, it does.
DIRECT TESTIMONY OF DANIEL N. SCHOCHET
IPUC Case Nos. IPC-O4-08 and IPC-O4-
CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE
I HEREBY CERTIFY that on this day of June 2004, I caused to be served a
true and correct copy of the foregoing document by the method indicated below and addressed to
the following:
Jean Jewell
Idaho Public Utilities Secretary
472 W. Washington Street
O. Box 83720
Boise, ID 83720-0074
S. Mail
Hand Delivered
Overnight Mail
Facsimile
Barton L. Kline
Idaho Power Company
1221 W. Idaho Street
O. Box 70
Boise, ID 83707
S. Mail
Hand Delivered
Overnight Mail
Facsimile
Peter J. Richardson
Richardson & O'Leary
99 E. State Street, Ste. 200
O. Box 1849
Eagle, ID 83616
S. Mail
Hand Delivered
Overnight Mail
Facsimile
DIRECT TESTIMONY OF DANIEL N. SCHOCHET
IPUC Case Nos. IPC-O4-08 and IPC-O4-
DANIEL N. SCHOCHET
CURRENT POSITION:VICE PRESIDENT, ORMA T TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE:
1975 to Present:Various positions within the ORMAT group of Companies, including Director
of International Marketing, Vice President General Manager of ORMA T Nevada, and Vice
President Business Development. Assignments have included directing marketing and customer
service operations, establishing geothermal development division and managing geothermal
project development operations in the USA and overseas.
Since 1980 these activities included managing geothermal resource acquisition and assessment
permitting, defining exploration, drilling and testing regimes, feasibility studies, conceptual
definition of power plant systems, project financing, permitting and regulatory relationships, and
developing new project opportunities. In the period between 1980 and 20002, ORMA T has
installed over 700 MW of geothermal power plant projects in 20 countries, ranging in size from
3 OOk W to 13 OMW, utilizing geothermal resources from 2100 F to 6000 F.
Member of the Board of Directors of the Geothermal Energy Association (International Vice
President), Member of the Board of Directors of the Geothermal Resources Council, past
Member of the Board of Directors of the International Geothermal Association, and ORMA T
company representative for the National Association of Corrosion Engineers and the Power
Sources Manufacturers Association.
1953 to 1975:Held a number of technical and management positions in the aerospace
electrical power and biomedical research industries. Assignments included aerospace
engineering and research, reliability engineering, management of engineering testing and
evaluation laboratories, international project management and international marketing.
EDUCATION:
Master of Science, Electrical Engineering (MSEE)
Columbia University School of Engineering, New York
Bachelor of Electrical Engineering (BEE)
Cooper Union School of Engineering, New York, NY
Exhibit No.
Case Nos. IPC-E-O4-O8 and IPC-E-O4-
D. Schochet, U.S. Geothermal
June 9, 2004