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HomeMy WebLinkAbout20050606Vol IV Tech Hearing.pdfORIGINAL BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION IN THE MATTER OF THE APPLICATION OF UNITED WATER IDAHO INC. FOR AUTHORITY TO INCREASE ITS RATES AND CHARGES FOR WATER SEVICE IN THE STATE OF IDAHO. ) CASE NO. UWI-04- ) TECHNI CAL HEARING HEARING BEFORE --", ~C"':) fTI !;:: (I) C5 ,.C: CJ:) .... 0F; (j)(:) COMMISSIONER PAUL KJELLANDER (PRESIDING) COMMISSIONER MARSHA H. SMITH COMMISSIONER DENNIS S. HANSEN PLACE:Commission Hearing Room 472 West Washington Street Boise, Idaho DATE:May 25, 2005 VOLUME IV -' Pages 558 - 804 ......--. ..I L HEDRICK COURT REPORTING cfetW-V tk Mtr.fratfllf dr.fu 1978 POST OFFICE BOX 578 BOISE, IDAHO 83701 208-336-9208 ~.t" . j::::: rt1 (JCj !::1 rt1ct1 For the Staff:WELDON STUTZMAN , Esq. DONOVAN WALKER, Esq. Deputy At torneys General 472 West Washington Boise , Idaho 83702 For Uni ted Water:McDEVITT & MILLER LLP by DEAN J. MILLER , Esq. 420 West Bannock Street Boise , Idaho 83702 For Ci ty of Boise:DOUGLAS K. STRI CKLING, Esq. Boise City Attorney's Office 150 North Capitol BoulevardBoise, Idaho 83702 For Idaho Rivers Uni ted:WILLIAM M. EDDIE , Esq. Advocates for the West Post Office Box 1612Boise, Idaho 83701 For Community ActionPartnership:BRAD M. PURDY , Esq. Attorney at Law 2019 North Seventeenth StreetBoise, Idaho 83702 For Scott L. Campbell:SCOTT L. CAMPBELL , E sq. At torney at Law 101 South Capitol Boulevard, Tenth FloorBoise, Idaho 83702 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID APPEARANCES 83701 WITNESS I N D E X EXAMINATION BY PAGE Kathy Stockton (Staff) Patricia Harms (Staff) Rick Sterling (Staff) Carol J. Cooper (Staff) Dave Degann (United Water - Rebuttal) Carolee Hall(Staff) Randy Lobb (Staff) Mr. Miller (Cross)Mr. Walker (Redirect)558 565 Mr. Walker (Direct) Prefiled Direct Mr. Miller (Cross) 566 569 584 Mr. Stutzman (Direct) Prefiled DirectMr. Eddie (Cross)Mr. Strickl ing (Cross) Mr. Campbell (Cross) Mr. Miller (Cross) Commissioner Hansen Commissioner Smith Commissioner Kj ellanderMr. Stutzman (Redirect) 590 595 662 666 669 672 698 701 707 708 Mr. Stutzman (Direct) Prefiled Direct Mr. Miller (Cross)Mr. Eddie (Cross)Mr. Purdy (Cross) Commissioner Hansen 709 711 721 723 724 727 Mr. Miller (Direct) Prefiled Rebuttal Mr. Walker (Cross) Commissioner Smi 729 735 748 752 Mr. Stutzman (Direct) Prefiled DirectMr. Stutzman (Direct) 754 757 773 Mr. Stutzman (Direct) Prefiled Direct Mr. Purdy (Cross)Mr. Eddie (Cross) 776 779 792 799 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID INDEX 83701 NUMBER PAGE Premarked Admi t ted 584 For the Staff: 110.Calculation of Revenue Requirement Premar ked Admitted 584 111.13 -Month Average Rate Base Premarked Admi t ted 584 112 .Staff 13 -Month Average Plant in Service Adj ustment Premar ked Admitted 584 113 .Staff Accumulated Depreciation Amortization 114 .Staff Calculation of 13 -Month PremarkedAverage Advances Admi t ted 584 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 115.13 -Month Contributions in Aid of Construction Premarked Admitted 584 116 .Details of Adjustment to Depreciation Expense Premarked Admitted 584 117.Uni ted Waterworks , Inc. Premarked Consolidated Capital Structure Admitted 773 118 .Cost of Long Term Debt Premarked Admitted 773 119.Discounted Cash Flow Model Premarked Admitted 773 121.Details of Adjustments to Operation and Maintenance Premarked Admitted 662 122.Details of Adjustments to Opera t ion and Maintenance Premar ked Admi t ted 662 123.Details of Adj ustments to Operation and Maintenance Premarked Admitted 662 124 .Details of Adjustments to Operation and Maintenance Premarked Admitted 662 EXHIBITS 125.Details of Adjustments to Operation and Maintenance Premarked Admi t ted 662 126.Normalizing Adjustments to Opera t ing Revenue Premarked Admi t ted 662 127.Existing & Proposed Tariffs Premar ked Admi t ted 662 128.United Water Idaho Complaints 2002-2004 Premar ked Admi t t ed 721 129.Comparison of Large Water Companies Premar ked Admitted 721 130.Sheet No.4 4 Premarked Admi t t ed 721 131.Settlement of the Overall Weighted Cost of Capi tal Marked Admi t ted 774 774 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 EXHIBITS i', BOISE , IDAHO , WEDNESDAY , MAY 25, 2005, 1:20 P. KATHY STOCKTON produced as a wi tness at the instance of the Staff , having been previously duly sworn , resumed the stand and was further examined and testified as follows: COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay, we'll go back on the record, and before we broke for lunch I believe we were ready for Mr. Miller to begin his cross-examination of the wi tness MR. MI LLER :Thank you, Mr. Cha i rman . CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. MILLER: One minute here. It's my impression that cross-examination on the equity gross-up on AFUDC would not be particularly riveting, so I intend to pass over that section. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you. BY MR . MILLER:Al though, we wi 11 have some things to say about that when Mr. Healy testifies in rebuttal. I would like though to ask some questions, 558 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staff Ms. Stockton , with respect to the American Jobs Creation Act of 2004 . Okay. What , in general , do you understand the purpose of that Federal tax measure to be? I believe the intent of Congress was to create a level playing field for American companies as far as foreign country - - competing wi th foreign countries to stimulate the economy, things of that nature, satisfy their consti tuents at home. Provide an incentive for companies to make domestic investments? Yeah.Yes. Is there a school of thought that because the purpose of the Act is to incent companies to make investments of the nature that become qualified investments, is there a school of thought that it's appropriate for any deduction benefits to remain with the Company so that the full effect of the incentive is maximized , recognizing that if all those tax benef i ts were passed through to customers, the incentive would be diminished or diluted? There would certainly be that school of thought. But I would like to point out that in the rate making process, it's the customers that pay the taxes , and so any tax benefits that - - any credi ts that there are, it's my posi tion that those 559 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staf f should also flow through to the customers Slnce they pay the taxes through their rates. But the Company would be left with no net benefit it sel f as a resul t of undertaking the act i vi ties that are encouraged by the Act under that full flow-through approach? Well , I know that in this first - - the first two years, it I s three percent, the credi t is three percent. accelerates all the way up to nine percent.And what Il proposing in this case is a very conservative amount for the credi t , so that to the extent that the Company actually did recel ve a greater credi t and did not come in for a rate case In the subsequent years , then they would, in fact, have that potential for investment. Well , let's turn to the question of the , as you characterize, conservative treatment.To compute the amount of the tax benefit , the Company will have to make an allocation between the production of water and the transmission of water. Is that not correct? That's correct. Because there is a credit for production but not for transmission. Would you agree that up until now , there has been no reason for the Company to attempt to allocate its revenues between production and transmission for tax purposes because there has never previously been this distinction? 560 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staff I could agree to that. Is it also correct that until the U. S. Department of Treasury promulgates regulations or provides guidance , it is unknown what method the Department will approve for allocation of revenue between production and transmission? That I S true , it is not known at this time what methodology the IRS will eventually settle upon , but that doesn't mean that a wise business decision wouldn't be made to begin studying that , and I would imagine that the tax department, if not here in Boise but certainly back in New Jersey, is certainly looking at the effects of the entire American Jobs Creation Act and specifically the production credi ts.This is a new credit, but it is a credit that they are entitled to , and there will be an amount that they receive even though the IRS hasn't specifically come out wi th a defini ti ve way of calculating it. In Response to a Production Request along these lines, did the Company say to the Staff:It is premature to determine how the domestic production or tax credit will impact Uni ted Water Idaho because the U. S. Treasury has yet to promulgate regulations that will give guidance? Yes , that was a Company Response, and I included it in my testimony. And I just read it from your testimony. Okay. 561 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staff The Staff in Exhibit 1-something-or-other -- 102 - - comes up with a proposed method for allocating revenue between production and transmission.Has the Staf f in any way asked the Internal Revenue Service to review its proposed allocation method to know if it's likely to be a method within a range ikely to be approved by the Internal Revenue Service? , the Staf f has not talked to Internal Revenue Service about this particular way of calculating an estimate for what the production credi t would be , but the Company has admi t ted that , yes , that this will apply to Uni ted Water Idaho, but the Company did not provide some sort of calculation of their own. And that's because it's yet to recel ve guidance from the Internal Revenue Service on how to do it.Isn t that correct? If that's the Companyl s reason for not providing their own calculation , then I would agree with that. Didn I t the Company say to you in Response to your Production Request:Guidance will be provided through U. S. Treasury regulations that have yet to be released? Yes, they did state that guidance would be provided, but that still doesn't mean that there isn't going to be an effect that there won t be a production credi The Company didn't say:This doesn't apply to us and the dollar 562 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staff amount will be zero. But it is true , is it not, that at this time, the allocation method to be followed as prescribed by the Internal Revenue Service is not known because the Internal Revenue Service has not prescribed the method? Yes, it's true , they have not fully prescribed the method; however , a wise business company would probably have been already working on their first quarter results of operations, and to that extent they would have made some attempt, I would imagine, to determine what the impact of the credi t would be for reporting purposes - - for recording purposes - - so that they could approve throughout the year the amount that they fel t they would be receiving for the product ion credi t That is somewhat speculative on your part , isn' it, to try think what might be occurlng inside the Company when it has told you that they're wai ting on guidance from the Treasury? It could be speculative, I guess.I would imagine though that most companies have started to look at it and say, How is this going to affect us, how much should we accrue , how should we account for this. But you , of your own knowledge , do not know anything more than what the Company has told you in Response to your Production Request? 563 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staff That is That is correct, is it not? Tha t is correct. All right.Just to put one final exclamation point on that, I take it you're not aware specifically of what any other companies are doing internally to prepare for implementation of the Act? I don I t know what other companles are doing internally.I do know that other companies have made mention to Staff that they would be willing to accept a calculation for the production credit. Would that be other regulated water companies? Not to my knowledge. All right.And the allocation of income between production of water and transmission of water compared, for example , to the production of electricity and the transmission of electrici ty may be entirely different things, couldn I they? Yes , they may. MR. MILLER:I think those are my questions for this wi tness.Thank you , Mr. Cha i rman . COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you , Mr. Miller. Let I S see if we have any questions from Mr. Campbell. MR . CAMPBELL:No questions.Excuse me. 564 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STOCKTON (X) Staf f questions.Thank you. MR. STRICKLING:No quest ions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Eddie. MR. EDDIE:No quest ions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:I have none, thanks. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Are there questions from members of the Commission? Is there any redirect? MR. WALKER:Briefly, Mr. Chairman. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. WALKER: Is it common rate making practice for this Commission to recognize tax credits for all utilities even when the intent is to stimulate investment? It I S my understanding, yes , that's true. Will the Company be required to calculate the credit using a reasonable method even if the guidelines are not prescribed by the time the tax returns are due? Yes, I would think they would have to.If they want the credi t, they'd have to figure out a way to calculate it. MR.WALKER:Nothing further. 565 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING BOX 578,BOI SE 83701 STOCKTON (Di) Staff COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Thank you Ms. Stockton. (The wi tness was excused. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:I believe we're ready for Staff I s next wi tness. MR. WALKER:The Staff calls Patricia Harms. PATRICIA HARMS, produced as a witness at the instance of the Staff , being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. WALKER: Could you please state your name for the record? My name is Patricia Harms. And could you tell us where you're employed and In what capacity? m employed at the PUC as a senior audi tor. And did you prepare and prefile written testimony for this case? Yes, I did. And that testimony consists of 13 pages? Yes, it does. And you do have several corrections to your 566 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 HARMS (Di)Staff prefiled testimony? Yes, I do. Could you briefly tell us the nature and the reasoning for those changes? The revised - - revisions to my testimonyYes. are associated with revisions to Staff witnesses English Stockton , and Sterling, and incorporate the settlement on the weighted cost of capi tal. In addition , I have also made an adjustment specific to my testimony associated with the Company' accounting system upgrade.In my original testimony, I was not proposing an adj ustment in this case because I was aware that the accounting system was operating and in use, but was awaiting additional information from the Company as to the allocation from their affiliate of cost associated with that The Company has not provided further information onprogram. that.As a resul t, I'm now recommending that cost in this case be removed, and those costs are approximately 93,000 in plant In service and related depreciation and accumulated depreciation. And did you also have some exhibits with your test imony? Yes, I did.I had Exhibits 110 through 116. And you prepared the corresponding changes to your exhibits? 567 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BO IS E , I D 83701 HARMS (Di) Staff Yes, I did. MR . WALKER:Mr. Chairman, we would ask if you prefer us to go through and make each correction through the testimony; or that testimony, the corrected pages, have been provided to the court reporter, and I've handed out a list of changes as well as the revised exhibits, if you would prefer to waive going through line by line in the testimony. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:I personally would prefer to waive that, but let's see what the parties think. it clear enough to you, easy enough to follow?Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:Yeah, that's fine. COMMI S S IONER KJELLANDER:Anyone obj ect?Then let I S move forward with that. BY MR. WALKER:Ms. Harms, if I were to ask you the questions in your prefiled testimony, would your answers be the same with the corrections you have made? Yes. MR . WALKER:I would move that the testimony of Patricia Harms be spread on the record as if read, and that the Exhibi t s 110 through 116 be admi t ted into the record. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you.So wi thou objection , we'll spread the testimony across the record as read, and admit the associated exhibits. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Ms. Harms is spread upon the record. 568 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID HARMS (Di) Staf f83701 Please state your name and address for the record. My name is Patricia Harms.My business address lS 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho. By whom are you employed and in what capaci ty? I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission (Commission) as a Senior Auditor. Give a brief description of your educational background and experlence. I graduated from Boise State University, Boise, Idaho in 1981 with a B.A. degree in Business Administration, emphasis in Accounting.I am a Certified Public Accountant licensed by the State of Idaho.Prior to joining the Commission Staff in 2000, I was employed by the State of Alaska as an In Charge Audi tor and performed both financial and performance audi ts governmental agencies.I have attended many seminars and classes involving audi ting and accounting.While at the Commission I have audited a number of utilities including water, electric, gas and telephone utilities and provided comments and testimony in a number of cases that dealt wi th general rates, hook-up fees, accounting issues, and other regulatory issues.I have also completed the National Association of Regulatory Utility Commissioners (NARUC) annual regulatory studies program at Michigan CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di)HARMS, P. STAFF 569 State Uni versi ty.I also attend meetings of NARUC' Staff Subcommittee on Accounting and Finance.I am a member of the State/Federal Joint Oversight team for the Qwest 272 Audit. What is the purpose of your testimony? My testimony summarizes Staff adj ustments, rate base, revenue requirement and revenue requirement lncrease proposed in this case. What exhibi ts are you sponsoring? I am sponsoring Revised Exhibit Nos. 110 through 113 and 116.I am also sponsoring Exhibit Nos. 114 and 115.Revised Exhibit Nos. 110 and 111 outline Staff's proposed revenue requirement, rate base and itemize Staff's adjustments to the United Water Idaho, Inc.(Uni ted Water UWI; Company) adj usted test year operating resul ts and the Company s recorded rate base. Staff Revised Exhibit Nos. 112, 113, 116 and Exhibit Nos. 114 and 115 calculate rate base components based on a 13 -Month average and identifies the resulting adj ustments to the Company s recorded amounts. What is the purpose of Staff Revised Exhibit No. 110? This exhibit shows the overall net operating income requir~ment and revenue requirement deficiency for the Company as calculated by Staff. CASE NO. UWI-04- REVISED OS/24/05 570 HARMS , P (Di) STAFF What revenue requirement does Staff propose? The total net operating income requirement proposed by Staff is $10,500,809 as shown on Revised Exhibit No. 110, line Staff's Adj usted Net Operating Income for the Company is $9,665,261.This results in an overall rate increase of $1,406,227 or 4.5%.The Company has requested an overall rate increase of $6,767 870 or 21.46%. How is this revenue requirement calculated? Staff calculated the revenue requirement using a 13-Month Average Rate Base of $125,652,848, an 8.357% overall rate of return described in the Settlement of the Overall Weighted Cost of Capital filed May 23, 2005, and Staff's adjusted net operating income of $9,665 261. Please describe the reason for a 13 -Month average rate base. As described in Staff Policy witness Lobb's and Staff witness Carlock's testimony, using a 13 -Month average rate base reduces the expense/revenue mismatch identified by the Commission that occurs when the costs of plant adjustments are added as if they were in place for a whole year without adding any benefits. Please describe this expense/revenue mismatch. In Order No. 29505 entered in Case No. IPC-03-13, the Commission stated it "expects all CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- REVISED OS/24/05 (Di)HARMS , P. STAFF 571 19 utilities to attempt to identify expense saving and revenue producing effects when proposing rate base CASE NO. UW1-04- REVISED OS/24/05 572 HARMS, P. (Di) STAFF adjustments for maJor plant additions.Page 7. In this case, did Uni ted Water add any plant adjustments to rate base as if they were in place for a whole year? United Water added to Plant in ServiceYes. approximately $30 Million in capital project expenditures estimated through May 31, 2005 as identified in Witness Rhead's Exhibit No.8 dated October 21, 2004.These costs include projects related to the Company s Columbia Water Treatment Plant (CWTP) and approximately 90 other proj ects. Did Staff add any plant' adjustments to rate base as if they were In place for a whole year? Yes.The Company s CWTP In-Service Additions per Wi tness Rhead' s March 22 , 2005 updated Exhibi t No. were added to rate base as if they were In place for a whole year.Staff accepts this adj ustment In addition Staff also annualized costs associated wi th CWTP-related projects completed (costs closed to Plant in Service) during the test year (August 1, 2003 through July 31, 2004) The adjustment amount to annualize costs for CWTP totals $23,927 985. Do these costs represent the total Company investment in CWTP? There are many CWTP-related proj ects thatNo. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di)HARMS , P. STAFF 573 were completed (costs closed to Plant in Service) before the beginning of the Company s test year.Therefore, those costs were already included in rate base for the entire year.Staff witness Sterling thoroughly discusses CWTP in his testimony. Did the Company identify expense saving and revenue producing effects associated with CWTP? Yes.The Company proposed Adjustment No. that decreased power and chemical expense at wells as a resul t of the operation of CWTP.According to wi tness Healy, wi th the operation of CWTP the Company will rely less on ground water resources.The Company al so proposed adj ustments increasing expenses as a resul t of operating CWTP for items such as increased power, chemicals, purchased water and staffing costs (Company Adj ustment Nos. 1 and 15) .In addition, the Company proj ected customer growth through May 31, 2005 and increased revenue accordingly.Correspondingly, the Company increased postage expenses, billing costs, and operation and maintenance costs associated wi th customer growth (Company Adj ustment Nos. 18, 19, and 30) . Staff witness English's testimony discusses these adj ustments in detail. Does the Company propose any other post test year addi t ions? CASE NO. UWI-W-04-4 04/06/05 (Di)HARMS, P. STAFF 574 Yes.The Company proposed a test year of August 1, 2004 through July 31, 2004 and essentially proformed its rate base through May 31, 2005 on a year- end basis.(Wi tness Healy Exhibi t No.1, Page 1 of 9) Does Staff accept the Company s adjustments to rate base as proposed in wi tness Healy Exhibi t No. Page 1 of 9? No.As discussed earlier, except for CWTP, Staff has prepared rate base on a 13 -month average. 13 -Month Average Rate Base What activity is included in Staff's 13-month ra te base average? Staff's 13 -month average rate base calculated by averaging the monthly balances from July 31, 2003 through July 31, 2004 for Plant in Service, Customer Advances, and Contributions in Aid Construction.Except for CWTP, post-test year activity through December 31 , 2004 (Exhibit No.8) is treated as if it occurred in the last month of the test year or as of July 31, 2004.As a resul t, that acti vi ty has a weighting of one-thirteenth (1/13) in the 13-month average. What other components of this case are affected by the 13 -month average of Plant in Service related accounts? CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di)HARM S, P. STAFF575 Depreciation Expense, Accumulated Depreciation and Amortizations, and Accumulated Deferred Federal Income Taxes. How does this 13 -month average compare to the amounts contained in the Company s accounting records for July 31 , 2004? The 13-month average increases July 31, 2004 Utility Plant in Service by $17 945,652 (Revised Exhibit No. 112 , Column H), decreases Customer Advances by $195,891 (Exhibit No. 114, Column G, Line 17), decreases Contributions in Aid of Construction by $1,467 382 (Exhibit No. 115, Line 13), and increases Accumulated Depreciation and Amortizations by $1 826,956 (Revised Exhibi t No. 113, Column G, Line 19) .Staff's proposed Depreciation Expense is $507 207 (Revised Exhibit No. 116, Page 1 , Line 6) lower than that proposed by the Company in Witness Healy s Adj ustment No.3 7 . How does the revenue requirement on a 13 -Month Average Rate Base compare to the revenue requirement prepared by the Company through May 31 , 2005? The 13 -Month Average Rate Base proposed by Staff (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column C) is approximately $11 million lower than the May 31 , 2005 Rate Base filed by the Company.Solely due to the difference in rate base and the related Depreciation CASE NO. UWI-04-4 REVISED OS/24/05 (Di) 576 HARMS, P. STAFF Expense, Staff's revenue requirement is approximately million lower than the Company Columbia Water Treatment Plant Adjustments What adjustments are proposed to CWTP? Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column D eliminates costs associated with CWTP land and building costs that Staff witness Sterling determined as not used and useful for the current operation the plant. discussed his testimony Staff witness Sterling determined that approximately 25%the land and approximately 15% of the building associated with CWTP is for future use and therefore should not earn a return.This adj ustment reduces Plant in Service by $533,084 (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column D) . Does Staff propose to remove Depreciation Expense and Accumulated Depreciation associated with the building Plant Held for Future Use? No.In Case No. UWI-97-6 the Commission denied the Company a return on the Boise River Intake (BRI) proj ect that was not used and useful.Howeve r, the expense allowance associated wi th BRI WdS approved to provide for the recovery of the Company s investment. Order Number 27690. Should the Company earn Allowance for Funds Used During Construction (AFUDC) until the land and CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- REVISED OS/24/05 577 HARM S , P. STAFF (Di) building become used and useful? No, it is not under construction and should not earn a return as if it were used and useful or as if were under construction.In Case No. UWI-97-6 the Company requested that the Commission permi t continued accrual of AFUDC on BRI.The Commission in that case did not grant continued accrual of AFUDC.Order No. 27690. The same treatment is appropriate in this case.In the al ternati ve , the full amount could be left in Plant Held for Future Use.When the plant is used and useful would be rate based at that time wi th the depreciation also starting at the same time.Staff believes its recommended treatment is preferable. What other adjustment is proposed to CWTP? Staff proposes that costs associated with a cancelled purchase order be removed from the Company ra te base.In December 2002 the Company was billed and accrued costs for a portion of CWTP's membrane system. In August 2003 the purchase order associated with this transaction was terminated.In February 2004 and October 2004 credi ts were posted to the CWTP proj ect which removed the financial effect of the transaction except the Allowance for Funds Used During Construction (AFUDC) that accrued during the time period before funds were received and/or written off associated with this CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di)HARM S, P. STAFF 578 transaction.Staff adjustment (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column E) removes $258,772 AFUDC from Plant in Service and the related Depreciation Expense and Accumulated Depreciation of $12,939. Are there any other adjustments related to CWTP's membrane filtration system? Yes.Staff proposes that the Commission order the Company to depreciate the CWTP membrane filters over a 10-year life (10% depreciation rate) The Company in this case has proposed depreciating the membrane filters over a 7-year life (14% depreciation rate) When Staff toured the CWTP facility the CDM representative with extensive membrane filtration experience stated that the membrane filters are lasting 10 years in many plants. Given that information , Staff has proposed reducing Depreciation Expense and Related Accumulated Depreciation by $20 000 (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column F) Wa ter Rights Does Staff propose any adjustments related to water rights? Yes.Staff proposes to adj ust water rights to remove costs not used and useful.Staff witness Sterling s testimony discusses this in detail.The reductions in rate base are $677,452 for the Initial Butte water right, $332,748 for the Integrated Municipal CASE NO. UWI-04- REVISED OS/24/05 HARMS, P. STAFF (Di) 579 Application Package and $29,697 for a Ground Water Recharge Permit (Revised Exhibit No. 111 , Columns G through I) Staff witness Stockton proposes removlng AFUDC from the costs of water right proj ects because the nature of water rights does not justify accrual of AFUDC. Are there any other adjustments associated with Allowance for Funds Used During Construction? Yes.Staff witness Stockton proposes removing a portion of the AFUDC the Company accrues for an equity tax gross up.Staff witness Stockton s adjustment related to AFUDC reduces Plant in Service by $786,835, Depreciation Expense by $13,482 and Accumulated Depreciation by $7 071 (Revised Exhibit No. 111 , Column J) Taxes Does Staff propose any adjustments related to taxes? Yes.Staff witness Stockton calculated the effect of Staff's proposed case including the 13 -Month Average Rate Base to Accumulated Deferred Federal Income Taxes (ADFIT)The adjustment (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Col. B , Line 7) increases ADFIT by $2 382,716. Staff witness Stockton also proposes an adjustment to include the effect of a production tax CASE NO. UWI-04- REVISED OS/24/05 HARMS , P. STAFF (Di) 580 credi t related to the Jobs Creation Act of 2004.Staff witness Stockton discusses in further detail this adjustment reducing Federal Income Taxes by $87 034 (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column K) . Staff wi tness Stockton also increased Federal Income Taxes by $313,020 and increased State Income Taxes by $117 659 due to the debt interest associated with the rate base adjustments proposed by Staff (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column 0)Staff witness Stockton s testimony describes the need for these adjustments. Q. Does Staff witness Stockton propose any other adjustments? Staff witness Stockton decreasedYes. Operating Expenses by $20 678 to remove the non-regulated portion of M&S (United Water Management and Services) Fees (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column L) Staff wi tness Stockton also incorporated into this case $5,628 (Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column M) In revenue resulting from the sale of the Carriage Hill non- contiguous water system (Case No. UWI-04- Operating Expense Adjustments and Deferred Debits Please describe the entries in Revised Exhibit No. 111, Column These entries summarlze adjustments prepared by Staff witness English and Staff witness Sterling and are CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- REVISED OS/24/05 HARMS, P. STAFF (Di) 581 described in detail in the respective testimony. Are there any other items that Staff needs further information from the Company? Yes.Staff has requested documentation associated with the accounting software upgrade that started processing financial data of the Company on October 1, 2004.The Company has included approximately $1,200,000 in rate base costs associated with this program on its Exhibi t No.These costs are allocated from the Company s Corporate Office.While Staff has received a general overview of how these costs are allocated to UWI and has been provided the Capital Expenditure Authorizations that were approved by the Company in March 2005 , no detailed allocation spreadsheets have been provided.Staff had not originally proposed an adj ustment in this case related to this cost because the software program lS in place and operating.However, Staff has been unable to verify the allocation of these costs and therefore cannot verify the actual amounts included in rate base until the additional documentation is received.No further information has been provided by the Company, therefore this cost has been removed from the 13 -month average rate base in Column B on Revised Exhibit No. 111. Does this conclude your direct testimony in CASE NO. UWI-04- REVISED OS/24/05 HARMS , P. STAFF (Di) 582 this proceeding? Yes, it does. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- REVISED OS/24/05 583 HARMS, P. (Di) STAFF 13 (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Staff Exhibit Nos. 110 through 116, having been premarked for identification , were admitted into evidence. MR . WALKER:The witness is available for cross-examination. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: start with Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:No quest ions. Okay, thank you.We'll COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Mr. Eddie. MR. EDDIE:No quest ions. Let I S move Mr. Strickl ing MR. STRICKLING:No questions. HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: COMM IS S lONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Campbell. MR . CAMPBELL:None, thank you. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Mr. Miller. CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. MI LLER : And now we'll move to I guess I have, one area of clarification with respect to the changes that have just been submitted. 584 I assume HARMS (X)Staff the ones that relate to the weighted cost of capi tal should be relatively easy to identify and follow.I did not follow your testimony with respect to some adjustment that you previously considered but held off making pending further information and now are proposing to make.Could you explain to me or to us what you're talking about? Okay.In my original testimony, on page 13, I had discussed the need for additional information from the Company to support an allocation from one of the other United Water companies to the United Water Idaho associated with their accounting software upgrade, and since I knew it was in service and was expecting additional information on that, I did not prepare an adj ustment And since that date I haven't received any additional information to support that allocation from the Company s corporate office, and as a result, I've removed that from rate base. And in my original testimony, I identified that the amount the Company included on Scott Rheadl s Exhibit No. was approximately 1.2 million.Because of the 13 -month average rate base, that adjustment becomes approximately $93,000 as this is plant that was placed in service after the end of the test year. And where would we see that adj ustment on your revised exhibits? It is in revised Exhibit 111 , and it is embedded 585 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID HARMS (X)Staff83701 in Column B, I believe it is.Column B, plant in service, accumulated depreciation and depreciation expense, was changed as a result of that adjustment. line Which exhibit?I m sorry. m sorry.That was revi sed Exhibi t No. 111. Uh-huh. And , for example, utility plant in service on Column B , was originally an adjustment of -- of approximately 18,038,678, and now that amount is the 945,652. Apologize for the slow pace here.This is taking a minute to integrate. Okay, so as I understand it, the lssue with respect to this software accounting upgrade is not a question of whether it's used and useful? Correct. You actually went to the Company offices, verified that it's there, saw it working.Is that correct? Yes , it is. The unanswered question is - - has to do with the allocation of costs between United Water Idaho and somebody else.Is that -- Correct. - - the essence of it? Okay.I wanted to ask you someThank you. 586 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID HARMS (X)Staff83701 general questions about the concept of matching of revenues, rate base, and expenses, which sort of permeates through your testimony.Do you understand or do I understand correctly that in an effort to comply with the Commission's directives and the Idaho Power Company case and the Avista case regarding matching, that the Company used annualized customer revenue growth through May 31, 2005, in an effort to capture growth revenues that might be associated with plant additions? I'd prefer your questions regarding the matching of revenues, expenses, and the 13 -month averages to Staff witnesses Lobb and Carlock. I won't go far with you on this if this isn' your area, but is that an , to your understanding, a correct statement of how the Company attempted to comply with the Commission I S directive in those cases? I believe Mr. Wyatt may have mentioned that in his testimony. I also wanted to ask some questions about the wisdom of including post-test year investment at one/thirteenth of its value or including it in rate base as if it had been in service for the last month of the test year.Are you capable of answering questions along those lines or would you like to defer them to another witness? I d refer them to our Staff policy witness Randy Lobb. 587 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID HARMS (X)Staff83701 I also wanted to ask some questions about the wisdom of Staff I s apparent new policy of cutting off consideration of post-test year benefits at a specific date; in this case, December 31st.Are you capable of answering questions about the wisdom of that policy or should those be deferred to another witness? I believe Staff witness Lobb discusses that in his testimony. I wanted to ask a couple of questions about one adjustment that you make independently as opposed to your role of collecting adjustments from other witnesses and incorporating them into financial statements , and that is on page 10.You propose changing the depreciation life of the Columbia water treatment membranes from the Company's proposed amount of seven years to ten years.Is that correct? Correct. And your adjustment is based on what an unnamed person said to you during a tour of the Columbia water treatment plant.Is that not correct? It's based upon - - my adj ustment was based upon that , and to recognize that the membrane filters do not have are not expected to have the 22 year life that I s normally associated wi th water treatment equipment. The reason cited in your testimony is the conversation with some unnamed person during a tour of the 588 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID HARMS ( X )Staff83701 plant? Correct. Right.And although the dollar amount here not large, it just struck me as odd, I guess, that when an adjustment works against the Company, unsubstantiated hearsay will do.When the Company proposes adj ustment, the Staff seems to hold the Company to a higher burden of proof. And so I guess my question is do you think the Staff has been consistent throughout this case in its application of burden of proof principles? MR . S TUT ZMAN :Mr. Chairman, we'll obj ect to that quest ion.I think he's asking the wi tness to give a legal analysis of evidence, and I don't think she I s prepared to do that. MR. MILLER:I don t think it I S a legal analysis. I just think that there are examples in this case where adjustments that go against the Company are supported by very minimal evidence, whereas the Staff requires of the Company very significant evidence for adjustments that go in its favor. And rather than let - - require the witness to answer , I could just leave the matter with that assertion. MR. STUTZMAN And I attempted to make a motion to strike Mr. Miller's testimony, but I guess I won t do that. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Well , the objection is sustained , so let's move forward. 589 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 HARMS (X)Staff MR. MILLER:Those are all the questions we had for Ms. Harms. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you.Are there any questions from members of the Commission?None. I guess we are ready for redirect, if any. MR . WALKER:No redirect, Mr. Chairman. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you, and thank you, Ms. Harms. (The witness was excused. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:I bel ieve we re ready then for Staff's next wi tness. MR. STUTZMAN Thank you, Mr. Cha i rman .The Staff will call Rick Sterling, please. RICK STERLING, produced as a witness at the instance of the Staff , being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. STUTZMAN Would you please state your name and spell your last name for the record? Rick Sterling, S- And where are you employed and in what 590 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Di)Staff capaci ty? m employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission as a Staff engineer. And did you prepare and prefile written testimony in thi s case? pages? would also Yes, I did. And does that consist of approximately My original testimony was 65 pages.Yes. make note though of some revisions to my testimony that were mailed to the parties of record on May 20th , which was last Friday.Those revisions were to pages 34 and 35, and so there was also a page 34a and a page 34b that were included. Okay.What were the - - Slnce you ve brought that up, why don t you tell us what the nature of those revisions were and why you've refiled those pages. Well , there were two - - revisions in two areas. One had to do with a Water Permit No. 63-31409.When I originally prepared my testimony, I relied on information available on the Department of Water Resources Web site. Subsequent to that, United Water had made a Production Request of the Staff inquiring about that water right, which that caused me to investigate that right further , and I then examined the actual paper documents held by the Department of Water Resources.The actual water rights documents were more 591 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Di)Staff complete than what was reflected on their Web si te.That necessi tated a change to my testimony. The other change was associated with a change in Staff I S recommendation with regards to IMAP , and that change described on page 34 of my testimony. Okay.Besides the changes that you made in your revised pages, do you have any other changes or corrections to your direct testimony? Yes , I do.The first is on page 3 , on line 16, and these changes are also reflective of the pages that were revised that I had referred to earlier.But on line 16 after the word 11 that 11 insert the words 11 a portion of the 11 so that that ine should begin 11 that a portion of the investment. Okay. And on line 17 , the word 11 specificallyll should be deleted and replaced wi th the word II partially. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Could you gl ve us that again? THE WITNESS:On line 17 , delete the word specificallyll and replace it with the word "partially. MR. MILLER:Page 1 7? THE WITNESS:Page 3, ine 1 7 . BY MR. STUTZMAN Are there any other changes? Yes , there are.On page 40 , 1 ine 5, the third word in that line should be "existing. There is just a typo. 592 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Di)Staff On page 45, line 2 , that should read "Order No. 28800. " And on the following page, page 46, line 20, that should also be "Order No. 28800. Those are all. Q .Okay.Thank you.Did you al so have some exhibits attached to your prefiled testimony? Yes, I did. And what numbers of exhibi t s do you have? I will need to look, so -- 121 through 127. Okay.Do you have any corrections or changes to make to your exhibits? No,don't. were ask you the questions in your prefiled testimony today with the corrections that you made, would your answers be the same? Yes, they would. Thank you, Mr. Sterling. MR. STUTZMAN Mr. Chairman , I I d move that the testimony of Mr. Sterling be spread upon the record as if read, and Exhibi t Nos. 121 through 127 be admi t ted in the record. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:And wi thou t obj ect ion we III spread the testimony of Mr. Sterling across the record as if read, and admit Exhibits 121 through 127. MR. STUTZMAN Thank you. 593 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Di)Staff l~' 14 (The following prefiled direct testimony of Mr. Sterling is spread upon the record. 594 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID STERLING (Di)Staff83701 Please state your name and business address for the record. My name is Rick Sterling.My business address lS 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho. By whom are you employed and in what capacity? I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission as a Staff engineer. What is your educational and professional background? I received a Bachelor of Science degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Idaho in 1981 and a Master of Science degree in Civil Engineering from the University of Idaho in 1983.I worked for the Idaho Department of Water Resources from 1983 to 1994.In 1988 I became licensed in Idaho as a registered professional Civil Engineer.I began working at the Idaho Public Utilities Commission in 1994.My duties at the Commission include analysis 6f utility applications and customer petitions. What is the purpose of your testimony in this proceeding? There are several purposes to my testimony. First, I will discuss United Water s decision to build the Columbia Water Treatment Plant and the process the Company used to get it constructed.Next, I will make several CASE NO. UWI - W - 04 - 4 04/06/05 STERLING , R. STAFF (Di) 595 recommendations concernlng adj ustments to test year expenses.Finally, I will make a proposal for new rates based on Staff's recommended increase in revenue requirement, and I will discuss rate design al ternati ves, including the rate design proposed by Uni ted Water. Please summarize your testimony. My testimony begins with a discussion of the Columbia Water Treatment Plant, the primary driver in this rate case.I conclude that the plant is needed by Uni ted Water, and agree that microfil tration is a reasonable choice of technology.I review the design-build approach taken by the Company to construct the plant, discuss the advantages and disadvantages of the approach , and recommend that the design-build approach not be used in the future because of the difficulty it presents in assuring customers that the best value was obtained for the investment made. With regard to the Columbia Water Treatment Plant, I review the request for proposal process employed by the Company and the criteria used to choose a design- build firm to construct the plant.I discuss the cost plus fixed fee contract used by United Water and how a guaranteed maximum price was established.In addition, I review the level of competitive bidding used during construction of the plant and consider whether adequate CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 2STERLING, R. STAFF 596 cost control incentives existed for the construction contractor.I comment on United Water s own cost comparisons between its plant and other membrane filtration plants and conclude that the Company s plant appears to be one of the most expensive plants compared. I recommend that the early completion incentive offered by Uni ted Water to CDM , the design-build contractor , not be recoverable from ratepayers, and that a portion of the treatment plant construction costs be booked as plant held for future use because they are not yet used and useful. Finally, I make recommendations regarding the operation and maintenance expenses estimated for the Columbia Water Treatment Plant. Next, I discuss three adjustments regarding water rights acquisitions by the Company.I recommend that investment related to the Integrated Municipal Application Package and a water right specifically for aquifer recharge and storage be considered plant held for future use.In addition, I recommend that only a portion of the investment made to acquire the Initial Butte water rights be included in rate base because not all of the water rights can currently be utilized. Next, I make recommendations regarding several adj ustments to test year expenses-purchased water purchased power, deferred power, chemicals, and weather CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING , R. STAFF (Di) 3 597 normalization related expenses.Next, I discuss rate design issues.I recommend that the fixed bi -monthly customer charge not be increased, that the 25% summer/winter rate differential be maintained at least for now , but that the Commission give consideration to implementing an inclining block rate design in the future. Finally, I present the rates that resul t using Staff' recommended revenue requirement. Columbia Water Treatment Plant Need for the Plant One of the primary drivers for this rate case costs associated with the new Columbia Water Treatment Plant (CWTP)Do you believe the plant is necessary? Yes, I do.Construction of a new surface water treatment plant has been a part of United Water s plans for several years.In its 1988 Master Plan , the Company recognized that it would be necessary to develop additional surface water sources to meet future customer needs due to the limited availability of groundwater. Since the 1988 Master Plan, the Treasure Valley Hydrologic Study, a j oint effort by the Idaho Department of Water Resources, the Uni versi ty of Idaho and the Idaho Water Resources Research Institute, has confirmed the limited availability of groundwater resources for future development, particularly in southeast Boise. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 4 598 Choice of Technoloqy Do you agree with United Water s decision to use microfiltration technology rather than traditional granular media filtration technology like is used at the Marden plant? I believe either technology could meet United Water s requirements in terms of both water quality and quantity.A more important issue, I believe, is whether one technology could do it less expensively than the other.Before building the Columbia Water Treatment Plant, Uni ted Water hired consul tants to prepare a Basis of Design Report.The report shows that both technologies were considered, but that microfiltration was ultimately chosen.Preliminary cost estimates indicated that the construction cost of a microfiltration plant were approximately 10 percent higher, but the report concluded that both technologies were nearly equal in cost given the potential inaccuracies of the cost estimates.The report also estimated that the lower expected operating costs of a microfil tration plant outweighed any possible disadvantage of higher construction cost. Because the preliminary cost estimates were judged equal , but admittedly rough, I believe that United Water should have considered soliciting proposals for traditional granular media filtration as well as CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-4 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 5 599 microf il tration.By soliciting proposals for both types of technology, Uni ted Water would have been able to make a more definitive determination as to which technology would resul t in the lowest overall cost. Desiqn Build Contract In constructing the CWTP, Uni ted Water employed a design-build approach.Please briefly explain what the design-build process is and how it differs from the traditional design-bid-build approach. Design-build is a construction approach in which the proj ect owner enters into a single contract wi th a design-build company that is responsible for both proj ect design and construction.Design of the proj ect begins and construction commences once the design has reached beyond the preliminary stage.Final design work continues as construction progresses.Design is always a step ahead of construction.This differs from the tradi tional approach in which a complete project design is first prepared, the proj ect is bid, and then the proj ect is constructed. What are the purported advantages of the design- build approach? Probably the most often cited advantage of design-build is that it is faster than the traditional design-bid-build approach because design work and construction work can overlap.Another advantage is that CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 6STERLING, R. STAFF 600 the design professionals, because of their close relationship with the construction team , can benefit by collaboratively coming up with design ideas that are less costly, more effective and easier to construct. addition , there is less likelihood for disputes between design and construction professionals, and fewer change orders and claims for errors and omissions.These factors can potentially lead to lower overall proj ect costs.From the owner s perspective, design-build requires only a single point of contact rather than separate contact with both the designer and the builder as in the traditional design-bid-build approach.Having a sole source responsibility is generally eaSler for the owner. What are the disadvantages of the design-build process? The biggest disadvantage in my opinion is the lack of checks and balances compared to more tradi tional construction approaches.Unl ike a tradi t ional approach where the design engineer acts as a representative for the owner , In design-build, the engineer and the contractor are part of the same company, or at least working as a team.The owner has a greater responsibility to insure that his interests are protected and that he receives a quali ty product at a fair price.The relationship between the owner and the design-build firm must be based on a CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 7 601 great deal of trust.The design-build firm must satisfy the owner s desires for a high quality, low cost product, while also trying to stay within budget and maximize its own prof it.This conflict between providing what the owner wants and providing it for a fixed prlce often results in the owner questioning whether it is getting the best quality for the money paid.Likewise, the design- build firm must trust in the owner not to make unreasonable demands when the design-build firm is opera t ing under a fixed budget.(Reference Best Practices in Design-Build for the Water and Wastewater Industry, p. 26 , Document No. FO0103, Design-Build Education Research Foundation, January, 2003). In an ideal world, such a relationship may produce a high quali ty, low cost resul t, but in a regulated world, it is extremely difficul t to assure customers of that fact. Another major disadvantage of design-build is that a final proj ect cost estimate is frequently unknown at the start of construction.Because design and construction proceed simultaneously, the final design is not available for estimating the final cost until construction is well underway.Wi thout knowing the final cost before the proj ect is started , there is always a risk that it could exceed the budget or balloon out of control. Cost overruns are usually the responsibili ty of the owner CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 8 602 STERLING, R. STAFF unless there was an agreed upon fixed price from the start. Are there ways to overcome some of the disadvantages of the design-build process? Yes.One way to overcome some of the uncertainty about knowing the final cost of a proj ect to hire an engineering firm to develop a preliminary proj ect design and cost estimate.Thi s approach can al help the owner to be reassured of a more economical and successful final product because the engineering consul tant is now working for the owner instead of the contractor and therefore has the owner's best interests in mi nd .In this case, Uni ted Water hired a team of two different engineering consultants to develop preliminary proj ect designs and al ternati ves.Sometimes an owner will hire a consultant to act as its agent and oversee the entire process, from preliminary design, to deyelopment of an RFP, to eval ua t ion of proposal s , to proj ect construction. Another way to eliminate some uncertainty is to establish a guaranteed maximum price at some stage in the process.When construction has progressed beyond the initial stages, when major materials and equipment have been procured, and when most of the final design details are known, a maximum price can be established to force CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 9STERLING, R. STAFF603 some degree of cost control beyond simply trusting that the proj ect is being buil t as economically as possible. Finally, because the design-build process requlres such a high degree of trust between the owner and the design-build firm , owners can invite to bid only firms with good reputations and with which it may have had prlor experlence.Although difficult to quantify, maintaining a good reputation by minimizing cost overruns, proj ect delays and disputes is a real motivating factor for most design-build firms. If construction costs are often unknown at the time a design-build firm is hired for a proj ect, and therefore if the construction cost portion of design-build projects are not competitively bid up front, are there ways to insure a competitive construction cost? One way to compensate for the lack of competitive bidding up front is to require competitive bidding for each element of the construction.In other words, the proj ect owner can require that jobs awarded by the design-build firm to subcontractors be competitively bid, and that any tasks self-performed by the design-build firm also be competitively bid. Was competitive bidding used in choosing subcontractors for the CWTP? Yes, competi ti ve bidding was used for nearly all CASE NO. UWI-O4-4 04/06/05 (Di) 10STERLING, R. STAFF604 of the maJ or construction tasks.In fact, In the early stages of the proj ect, CDM, the design-build firm , had intended to self -perform some of the maj or construction tasks, but later decided to hire subcontractors for almost all of the construction. Was the competitive bidding as competitive as could have been? No, in some cases it was not.For a few of the maj or construction tasks, despi te at tempting to obtain bids from several contractors, it appears that only one or two realistic bids were ultimately obtained. Unfortunately, there is really no way to know whether a lower price could have been obtained if more bids had been received. Is the design-build process common for water proj ect construction? Design-build was not common practice for any type of construction until about the 1990s.Its use was restricted primarily because of competitive bidding statutes in many states and in federal government construction.Since these restrictions have been removed, design-build has become more common, especially for state and federal highway construction.Its use for construction of water and wastewater facilities has been much more 1 i mi t ed however. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 11 605 Has United Water had prevlous experlence with the design-build approach to construction? No, Uni ted Water Idaho has not.The CWTP is the first proj ect on which Uni ted Water Idaho has used the process.However, United Water, the parent company, has used this approach once in New York and is currently uslng it for two projects in Pennsylvania.Uni ted Water has also used the approach for non-regulated operations in three other states. Do you believe that the design-build approach chosen by United Water presented any difficulties in the construct ion of the CWTP? Yes , I do.The biggest difficulty, I believe, was not in the construction itself.The biggest difficulty is in United Water s inability to provide assurance to its customers and the Commission that the plant represents the best value for the money spent. Do you recommend that Uni ted Water use a design- build process in the future for maj or proj ect construct ion? No, I do not.Unfortunately, one of the primary purported advantages of design-build-faster completion-was not realized in this case.It appears that much of the one-year delay in getting the proj ect built was due to the Company receiving proposals that exceeded ini tial cost CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 12 606 estimates.If a more complete design and a more accurate estimate had been prepared before proposals were sought perhaps this delay could have been avoided.United Water had been planning since at least 1998 to have a new treatment plant operational by the summer of 2004. Anticipating its needs that far in advance, the Company should not have had to scramble to get the plant buil t one year later than planned, to have to employ a non- traditional contracting process in an attempt to expedite construction , or to necessitate making multiple 11th hour updates to its filing for the proj ect to be properly considered in this rate case. Another of the purported advantages of design- build, that proj ects can be buil t at a lower cost, cannot be proven in thi s case.Just as there is no evidence that a design-build approach produced a higher overall proj ect cost, there is no evidence that it produced a lower cost. This uncertainty about whether the proj ect could have been completed at a lower cost makes it virtually impossible for the Commission to reassure ratepayers that Uni ted Water obtained the best value for the amount spent. In response to a Staff Production Request (Staff Request No. 131) when asked "What assurance can UWI provide to its customers and to the Commission that by uslng a Design-Build, Cost Plus Fixed Fee ' contracting CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 (Di) 13STERLING, R. STAFF607 process that it obtained the best value for customers?" the Company stated "Speculation about the outcome or prlce from a different contracting process or proposer impossible to precisely measure or even accurately predict wi thout building the proj ect twice. Cost PI us Fixed Fee Contract Do you see any disadvantages to a cost plus fixed fee approach like that taken by United Water? Yes , I see a serious disadvantage.Unde r a 1 ump sum contract, the owner knows in advance what the total proj ect cost will be.However , under a cost pI us fixed fee approach, only the fixed fee is known with certainty. The fixed fee represents only the design-build firm profit, and does not include any of the actual construction or engineering costs. But in this case, wasn t the overall proj ect cost known with certainty once a guaranteed maximum price was developed? Yes, but the guaranteed maXlmum prlce could not be developed until the proj ect design had reached percent completion.The guaranteed maximum price was established on January 29, 2004-more than 17 months after the contract was originally signed. Why does United Water say it used a cost plus fixed fee approach? CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 608 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 14 United Water claimed that there were several unknowns before the project was started such as filtration type, waste handling, building footprint/configuration and treated water storage.These unknowns, the Company claims, create risks to the construction enti ty that ultimately have to be passed on to the utility customers.One way to minimize these risks to the Company while still attracting bidders is to agree up front on what fees will be paid independent of construction costs. Because United Water hired two different consultants to prepare an extensive Basis of Design Report prior to issuing an RFP for plant construction , I don t believe there were nearly as many unknowns as the Company claims. RFP Process Please briefly describe the process United Water used in pursuing construction of the CWTP. United Water began the process by assembling a team consisting of engineers from its own local and national staff , along with engineers from Montgomery Watson Harza and Carollo Engineers, both ,international firms with extensive experience in water treatment.This team collected and analyzed data about Boise River water quali ty, performed pilot studies, assessed regulatory requirements, developed al ternati ves, and made prel iminary cost estimates.The resul t of the team s work was a Basis CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING , R. STAFF (Di) 15 609 of Design Report that specified the technology to be used and the processes to be employed in the new treatment facili ty. After the Basis of Design Report was completed, Uni ted Water issued a request for proposals invi ting four firms to submit design-build proposals for construction of the plant.The four firms were Montgomery Watson Harza, Carollo Engineers, Black and Veatch, and CDM (Camp, Dresser & McKee) .Two of the firms had previously done work for United Water Idaho, and the other two firms had completed work for United Water at other locations.All of the four firms are well known for their experience with water facilities. United Water required in its RFP that the proposals include qualifications, proj ect approach , and business terms.The RFP did not require prel iminary design preparation al though each proposal received included varying levels of design.The RFP al so did not require fixed design-build prlces, yet it did require that each proposal be accompanied by two separate cost estimates.First, proposers were required to submi t a fixed fee presented as a lump sum amount.The fixed fee was intended to represent the design-build firm s required profit.In addition, proposers were required to submit in a separate sealed envelope a Target Cost of Work.The CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 16 610 Target Cost of Work was intended to be a non-binding professional opinion of expected costs based on the design-build firm's proposed approach and understanding of the proj ect at the time. What criteria did United Water use to evaluate the bids? A group of local and corporate headquarters level United Water staff evaluated and scored each proposal using both price and non-price cri teria.The non-price evaluation criteria included the qualifications and experience of the proposer, the personnel commi t ted to the proj ect, and the proposed proj ect approach including abili ty to control costs , the technical approach and the proj ect schedule. The price evaluation cri teria was based on the proposer s fixed fee balanced with other factors, such as assumptions and conditions of the proposal, the degree of risk that the proposer is judged to be assumlng under the terms of the proposal, and direct cost factors. Did United Water choose the highest ranked proposal? No, it did not.It chose the second highest ranked proposal. Why? Based on the information I reviewed, it appeared CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 17 611 that the final decision was made, or at least very strongly influenced, by United Water corporate level staff.A confidential memo provided in response to a Staff production request (Request No. 111) revealed that the local United Water staff believed that before a contract was awarded the highest ranked design-build firm/proposal, rather than the one ultimately chosen, could have delivered the plant faster and at a lower cost. How were the Target Cost of Work estimates included in each proposal considered in the evaluation and ranking? According to Uni ted Water, they were not considered at all.In fact, the sealed envelopes were not even opened until after the evaluation and ranking was complete and a decision made to choose a design-build contractor.United Water reasoned that selection and scoring should have nothing to do wi th the non-binding estimates provided in the proposals.United Water stated that it simply wanted to get another budget cost from these experienced teams to compare to the Basis of Design Report assumptions.(Response to Staff Request No. 106) Do you believe that the Target Cost of Work should have been a factor considered in the evaluation? Yes, I do.Although the Target Cost of Work a preliminary estimate based on limited design work, CASE NO. UWI-O4-04/06/05 (Di) 18STERLING, R. STAFF 612 nevertheless is an estimate prepared by professionals with extensive experience in constructing similar plants. cannot reasonably be considered a binding estimate but it still reflects the general design elements, treatment processes and equipment suggested by the proposer.The purpose of requiring that a Target Cost of Work estimate be provided is to be able to make at least some assessment of the "value " represented by each proposal. completely ignoring the Target Cost of Work estimates, United Water effectively eliminated construction cost as a cri terion in choosing a proposal.I am uncertain as to why Uni ted Water required that the Target Cost of Work estimates be provided if it did not intend to consider them. How did the Target Cost of Work estimates compare to the guaranteed maximum prlce ul timately incl uded in the CDM contract? The Target Cost of Work estimates from two the proposals were $14 344,000 and $16,112 998, and the Guaranteed Maximum Price in the final construction contract was $16,844 498.I was unable to review two of the four Target Cost of Work estimates because United Water claims to have lost them. Does it concern you that United Water lost two of the Target Cost of Work estimates? CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di) 19STERLING, R. STAFF 613 Yes, I find it very troubling.Again, the estimates represent the professional opinions of very experienced and highly qualified firms of the expected construction costs of the plant.I would have expected that United Water would be very interested in knowing the range of Target Cost of Work estimates and whether differences in each design-build firm s proposals affected these estimates. Each proposer was required to submi t an original and six copies of its proposal.Uni ted Water al so agreed to keep each proposal conf idential Given the number of copies required and the care that should have been taken wi th the proposals , it is surprising that Uni ted Water has been unable to locate two of the Target Cost of Work estimates. Why are the Target Cost of Work estimates important? They are important because they provide additional benchmarks against which to measure the reasonableness of the final CWTP cost.Because every water treatment plant is unique, direct cost comparisons are difficult.Mul tiple estimates for the same plant may provide a better indication of a reasonable price than comparlsons to the average cost of many unique plants. Even though the Target Cost of Work estimates are CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 20 614 preliminary, they still reflect costs specific to a particular plant, si te, process and equipment.United Water has pointed out in response to production requests (Staff Request No. 202) that the Guaranteed Maximum Price agreed to by CDM proved to be only 4.34 percent higher than their Target Cost of Work estimate.This lS an indication, I believe, that the Target Cost of Work estimates are still quite accurate, despite being preliminary and based on limited design information. In addition , I believe that the Target Cost of Work estimates can serve as a reference point as design and construction work progresses prior to development of a Guaranteed Maximum Price.When a contract is executed without an up front fixed prlce, there should be something to gauge the final expected cost so that it can t balloon out of control. If the contract between United Water and CDM did not initially include a fixed price amount for construction of the plant, how was a Guaranteed Maximum Price eventually established? Detailed proj ect design commenced upon contract signing in August 2002.Once the design had reached the 85 percent completion stage, CDM provided United Water wi th an ini tial preliminary guaranteed maximum price. That price significantly exceeded United Water s project CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 21 615 and budget and expectations that were based on the original Basis of Design Report and budget.The proj ect was put on hold for approximately a year until United Water and CDM negotiated a new Guaranteed Maximum Price in January 2004.The Guaranteed Maximum Price fixed United Water s construction cost obligation except for minor contingencies and change orders. Could a Guaranteed Maximum Price have been established at the time the contract was signed? Yes, it could have been.United Water could have required a lump sum contract so that it knew in advance with certainty what the final proj ect cost would be.With that type of an approach, however, CDM rather than United Water would have been at risk for any cost overruns.Because of the added risk, it is likely that CDM would have increased the contract prlce to cover the added risk.It is not uncommon, especially when a design- build approach is used , for a fixed price to not be set until after the design had advanced far enough so that accurate cost estimates could be made. Fixed Fee The Fixed Fee portion of the proposals was a factor in the evaluation of proposals.How did the Fixed Fees compare? The Fixed Fees were qui te variable , ranglng from CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 22 616 $846,000 to $1 896,089.The proposal with the lowest Fixed Fee was also the proposal that was ranked highest overall , yet as I discussed previously, it was not the proposal ul timately chosen by Uni ted Water.Al though the difference in Fixed Fee between the two highest ranked proposals was relatively low compared to the total proj ect cost, it was not immaterial. Do you think any of the design-build firms who submi t ted proposals could have successfully completed the job? Yes, I believe all of the firms were highly qualified and capable and that any one of them could have delivered a plant that met United Water s needs. Cost Comparisons Company witness Rhead in his Exhibit No. compared the cost of the CWTP to other water treatment plants, both conventional and membrane fil tration.What lS your opinion of these comparisons? To the extent the comparisons are 'useful, my conclusion in reviewing them is that United Water s CWTP is considerably more expensive than the average of the group, and could be one of the most expensive. Despi te a Guaranteed Maximum Price of $16. million and an overall proj ect cost of $18.20 million (Response to Staff Request No. 108), United Water used a CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 23 617 cost of $12.87 million in comparing its proj ect to the others.With this project cost and after adjusting for differences between when each proj ect was buil t , the CWTP is still more expensive per gallon of treated water than all but one of the 19 other proj ects examined.The Company claims it used this lower cost because it believed some proj ect features of the CWTP such as the raw water pumping station, the transmission pipeline from the Boise River to the plant, land, electrical service, Uni ted Water labor and overheads, and AFUDC should be removed for comparison purposes.However, it is not apparent that Uni ted Water removed similar costs from any other proj ect or that it considered eliminating the costs of features from other plants that are not part of the CWTP.For example, the preliminary design for the CWTP called for the use of dissolved air flotation as a pretreatment process and the use of ul traviolet disinfection.These two processes were estimated together to cost $2. 1 million.Ul timately, both processes were not included in the final proj ect design.Some of the plants United Water uses for comparison purposes may include one or both of these processes. Using United Water s adjusted figures for comparison, the CWTP exceeds the average cost of the other microfiltration/ultrafiltration plants by 32.7 percent, CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 24 618 and the average cost of the conventional granular media plants by 5.9 percent.If the guaranteed maximum prlce or the total proj ect cost was used instead , the CWTP balloons to 73.5 percent above the average cost of the filtration plants and to 38.4 percent above the conventional plants. How does Uni ted Water explain why its CWTP more expensive than other plants? United Water attributes the CWTP's higher cost to differences between the scopes of the proj ects.The Company points out that some of the plants listed involve the addition of membrane filtration to an existing plant where some treatment facilities already exist.The CWTP United Water states, is a completely new plant requiring all of the facilities that may pre-exist at some plants. Uni ted Water also attributes the cost differences to other factors such as the type of membrane used, relative raw water quality differences , local labor and material costs and treated water pumping requirements. Do you accept United Water s explanation? Admittedly, it is difficult to compare costs between plants due to differences in design features treatment requirements and challenges, equipment differences, regional labor costs, and many other factors. However, the fact remains that the comparison still shows that the CWTP is nearly the most expensive plant listed, CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 (Di) 25STERLING, R. STAFF619 even after United Water removed a significant portion the proj ect costs to make it more comparable. Cost Control Incentives What incentives did CDM have to complete the project at less than the guaranteed maximum price? The contract between Uni ted Water and CDM has no provision for monetary incentive to CDM if the proj ect should be completed at less than the guaranteed maximum prlce.One hundred percent of all savings below the guaranteed maximum price are to the benef i t of Uni ted Water.With such contract provisions, I see no motivation for CDM to save costs, and little likelihood that any savings will be passed on to Uni ted Water.CDM's only motivation seems to be that it must protect its own reputation for performing within or below budget expectations. Is there evidence that United Water and CDM tried to keep the costs of the proj ect down? Yes , there is.During the design phase of the proj ect, before a guaranteed maximum price had been established, United Water and CDM worked together to develop al ternati ves to keep the proj ect costs down. addition , during project construction , CDM and its subcontractors have done a variety of things to reduce construction costs.Finally, as I discussed previously, CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 26 620 most of the construction tasks were competi ti vely bid. Early Completion Incentive The construction contract for the CWTP includes provisions for payment of an early completion incentive. What is your recommendation with regard to this incentive? The contract requires payment by Uni ted Water to CDM of an early completion incentive of $3,500 per day for each day that the 30-day facility test is started before June 1.Because the 30-day facility test began on about March 7, I estimate that the early completion bonus will total approximately $297,500.Originally, the contract provided for an early completion bonus of $2 500 per day, but United Water later increased the bonus to $3 500 per day to provide more motivation to CDM to complete the proj ect sooner.The reason cited by United Water for increasing the early completion bonus was that beginning ~he 30-day facility test on June 1 "left little time for system performance checks and start-up adjustments that are common wi th proj ects of this magni tude. "(Response to Staff Production Request No. 110) While beginning the facility testing sooner than June 1 may be wise, I contend that beginning the testing in early March is much sooner than necessary.I do not believe that the plant will need to be operated to meet customer demands until at least June.I see no reason for CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 (Di) 27STERLING, R. STAFF621 United Water to be paYlng extra just to have the plant sitting idle approximately three months before it is needed.United Water s customers derive no benefit from having the proj ect completed early.Furthermore, if United Water desi~ed to have the plant completed earlier than June 1, it should have included that requirement in the original contract or begun the proj ect sooner.As I pointed out earlier in my testimony, the scheduled completion date of the proj ect was already delayed by a year by United Water.The proj ect' s scheduled completion date has always been within United Water's control. United Water is contractually obligated to make the bonus payment for early completion.However, I recommend that none of any bonus payment ul timately paid be passed on to ratepayers. Has Uni ted Water provided any other justification for agreeing to pay an early completion bonus? Yes.In response to Staff Production Request No. 120, United Water states that it estimates a cost of $5,000 to $6,000 per day for CDM to remain on site.The net effect of providing an early completion bonus , the Company states, saves the project and customers $1,500- $2,500 per day for each day of early completion. If early completion saves customers $1,500- CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 622 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 28 '.. $2,500 per day for each day of early completion , do you still recommend that United Water not be allowed to recover from customers the cost of bonus payments? If United Water can conclusively demonstrate that the proj ect cost has been reduced by $5,000 to $6,000 per day for each day an early completion bonus has been earned, then I would not oppose payment of an early completion bonus.However, nothing in the contract between United Water and CDM indicates that CDM will reduce the proj ect costs if the proj ect is completed early, nor is there anything in the contract that requires CDM to reduce its proj ect management fee.In fact, as discussed earlier , I see no incentive in the contract for CDM to complete the proj ect for less than the contract amount because all of the savings, if any, will go to United Water.To date , the Company has provided no evidence that the proj ect cost has been reduced because of early completion or that the proj ect management fee to CDM has been reduced.Absent convincing evidence, I must oppose recovery of the early completion bonus payment. CWTP Over Sizing Do you believe the CWTP is properly sized based on the Company s current needs? Yes, I do.The plant is designed for an initial capacity of 6 million gallons per day (MGD) , which the CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 29 623 Company will be able to fully utilize this summer.The plant capacity can be increased to 10 MGD just by adding more membrane filters to the existing treatment building. The ultimate capacity of the plant is expected to be MGD, but full expansion will require some major construction. There are portions of the current plant however that are designed for future use and expansion.For example, approximately 2.8 of the 11.5 acres (24.5%) on which the plant si ts are currently unused and are intended for an additional future clear well, an additional future solids handling basin , and a future Aquifer Storage and Recovery (ASR) proj ect I believe it was prudent for United Water to acquire all of the land it believed would eventually be necessary to accommodate the plant facilities at full build out; however, that portion of the investment in land that is not currently being used should be booked as plant held for future use.Staf f wi tness Harms has made this adjustment in her Exhibit No. 111. In addition, I believe that approximately 3,200 of 23 160 square feet of floor space in the treatment building have no apparent current use.A portion of this vacant space appears reserved for possible future use for ul traviolet disinfection if it is eventually necessary. At an estimated cost of $110 per square foot for the CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 30 624 treatment building, $352 000 (3,200 x $110) of this investment should be booked as plant held. for future use. Staff witness Harms has made this adjustment in her Exhibit No. 111. CWTP Operation and Maintenance Expenses The CWTP is not operational as of the preparation date of this testimony; therefore, how can you know what the operation and maintenance expenses are for the plant? Qui te simply, we can Uni ted Water has made estimates of what it thinks operation and maintenance costs will be , but until the plant has been operational for a significant period of time, operation and maintenance costs cannot accurately be known.Throughout the course of this proceeding, Uni ted Water has continued to provide updated information as it becomes available and it is my understanding that even more updated information will be provided by the Company in its rebuttal testimony. However, chasing such a moving target has been extremely difficult and frustrating for Staff.Even with updated information until the time of the hearing in this case, we still will not really know what the actual operation and maintenance costs of the CWTP will be. Do you agree with United Water s estimated operation and maintenance expenses for the CWTP? CASE NO. UWI-04-4 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 31 625 No; therefore, I am proposing some adjustments. As mentioned, accurately estimating operation and maintenance expenses for the CWTP is difficult because the plant is brand new and has no existing record of these expenses.In addition, the CWTP uses a much different technology than the existing Marden plant, so operation and maintenance costs of the two plants are not directly comparable.Power , chemical, and labor costs will likely be qui te different for the two plants. United Water and its consultants have estimated operation and maintenance costs for the CWTP.I am recommending that the power cost estimate for the plant be reduced because I believe that the electric rate used to develop the assumption is too high.Instead of the $0.045 per kWh assumed by Uni ted Water, I have used a rate of $0.0368, which is the current Schedule 9 rate without the PCA and includes demand, energy, customer, and basic load charge s Use of this rate reduces United Water s estimate for operation costs by $43,891 per year.This adjustment is incorporated in my adjustment no. 11.I am accepting United Water s estimate for chemical costs for the new treatment plant. Adjustments to Rate Base Staff witness Harms made several adjustments to rate base associated with water rights of United Water, CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-04/06/05 (Di) 32 626 STERLING, R. STAFF and stated that you would discuss each of these adj ustments.Please discuss each of these adj ustments Each of the three separate adjustments is discussed below. Inteqrated Municipal Application Packaqe (IMAP) What is the Integrated Municipal Application Package ( IMAP) ? United Water has filed 99 Applications for Transfer of Water Rights (Licenses and Statutory Claims) and 13 Applications for Amendment (Permits) with the Idaho Department of Water Resources.The 112 applications are known as the Integrated Municipal Application Package (IMAP) and are based on existing uses and the Idaho Municipal Water Rights Act of 1996 (ACT)The Act allows municipal providers to hold water rights for reasonably anticipated future needs " within a planning period accommodate qrowth in municipal service areas.IMAP will conform Uni ted Water s rights to the Act. Uni ted Water documented a 50 -year planning period for I MAP , including estimates of population growth and increased water needs.The Company anticipates a water demand of about 420 cfs within 50 years.Existing United Water rights describe about 310 cfs, although current peak demand is about 150 cfs.The difference between the rate currently described by the rights (about CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 33 627 310 cfs) and the current peak flow (about 150 cfs) is about 160 cfs.Uni ted Water requests approval to hold about 160 cfs for future growth What adjustment are you proposing associated with lMAP? I am proposing that a minimum of $332,748 = (160/310) (644,700) in investment related to the Company lMAP activities be excluded from rate base.I am not challenging the prudence of lMAP activities in any way; in fact, lMAP is something United Water should be doing. Clearly, however, one of the primary purposes of lMAP is to preserve and protect water rights for future use.As a result, I am recommending that at least a portion of the investment associated with lMAP be booked as plant held for future use. Aquifer Storaqe and Recharqe (ASR) Water Fermi Please discuss your recommended adj ustment related to one of the Company s water rights for Aquifer Storage and Recovery. United Water holds permit no. 63-31409,. which a right to divert up to 20 cfs of flood flow for the purposes of ground water recharge and municipal use. Because sufficient facilities do not yet exist at Columbia for ground water recharge, and because no such facilities are planned at Marden, use of water under the permit for CASE NO. UWI-04- REVISED 05/19/05 STERLING, R. (Di) 34 STAFF 628 ground water recharge is not currently possible.Under the permit, water could currently be used for municipal use, but its use is subj ect to restrictions to only those times when the Boise River is on flood release below Lucky Peak Dam.In addition, diversions under the permit are restricted during certain periods of the year when certain minimum stream flows must be maintained for fish migration.Given the restrictions on use of water under the permit, Staff believes that use of water for municipal purposes is extremely limited.Storage and release records from Lucky Peak, Arrowrock and Anderson Ranch reservoirs indicate that no water could have been obtained under the right since 2000 because the reservoir system did not f ill and no flood flow releases were made.It is also likely that no water can be obtained in 2005 for the same reason.In the 20 years of records examined by Staf f,appears that water would have been available under the right in only 11 years.Moreover,water would have been available in only years June,5 of 20 years July,and never August.These are the months in which United Water is most likely to need the water right to meet system demand.Because United Water has yet to obtain any water under this water right, and because of the limited occasions on which it can obtain water, Staff continues to recommend that investment associated with CASE NO. ~~I-O4-05/19/05 (Di) 34aSTERLING, R. STAFF 629 future use. obtaining the water right be considered plant held for service is $29,697. The amount to be removed from plant in CASE NO. UWI-04-05/19/05 ,,~-- ...~.,.~.""- -- ,~'-"~~."""" ,---_._..~.- ._.~m__._w_- --_.--'- -.-.--.--- 630 STERLING, R. (Di) 34b R'T'AFF __m_ _--_--_-------------,-,-,.. --- __m___ "'----'--- n______ ----- - _m --- '--_U---, no,--,_. ------- ------,,-----, ----..-______ n--____..-------- Initial Butte Water Right Purchase Please describe the Initial Butte water right. The Initial Butte water right actually consists of three separate licenses (02-2341, 02-2358, 02-2420) Previously under the water rights, water was diverted from the Snake River to irrigate 2055 acres of land located south of Nampa and north of the Snake River.The water rights allowed a total volume of 9247.5 acre-feet to be diverted at a maximum diversion rate of 35.21 cfs.Uni ted Water purchased these water rights for the purpose of supplying water to its Marden and Columbia water treatment plants.In order to be able to use this water at the plants, however, the Company had to execute an "exchange. The exchange of water authorizes United Water to divert, for irrigation purposes within its authorized servlce territory, up to 35.21 cfs from the Boise River in exchange for the same amount under water rights 02-2341, 02-2358, and 02-2420 from the Snake River and subject to the conditions of approval of the exchange.The amount of flow made available through non-diversion under the Snake River water rights will remain in the Snake River to and below the mouth of the Boise River to fully replace the exchanged amount diverted from the Boise River. C~_SE NO. UWI-O4- REVISED 05/19/05 STERLING, R, STAFF (Di) 1S ~,-""'. """"",",=,,,,... '="""- """",v"","" """,, 'iO=z- ",,-' """""".!' , -""""~' ""'...""=.~, """.". =..""""..."'" ".c""-"'. -.." ,.~""",;...._.. ". """'"""""""""O="""',~"";:,o" ~..",~""""""""",=""","",,,,,..\,,;- ~""." "",",,"',,"," ,,-- 631 What restrictions are associated with the use of these water rights? United Water s diversions from the Boise River under the exchange can only be made during times when the Bureau of Reclamation is providing flow augmentation water from Boise River reservoirs pursuant to the NOAA Fisheries flow augmentation program.United Water cannot divert under these rights from June through February each year so as to reduce flows in the Boise River to less than 240 cfs , and cannot reduce flows to less than 1100 cfs from March through May.These restrictions effectively limit United Water from being able to fully utilize all of the water purchased under the Initial Butte purchase. fact, the practical limit is approximately half of the amount of the Initial Butte water rights.Depending on the amount of water available in the Boise River storage system in a given year, Uni ted Water expects to be able to secure approximately 3,500 to 4 900 acre-feet of water under these rights. Will Uni ted Water ever be able to fully use the Initial Butte water rights? In order to be able to use the full amount of the Initial Butte water rights, United Water will have to find a way to either get water from the Snake River to its water treatment plants, or more realistically, to get CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 36 632 Snake River water into the Boise proj ect irrigation system and execute another exchange wi th a water user diverting Boi se River water. How much did United Water pay to acquire the Initial Butte water rights? The total cost to Uni ted Water, incl uding purchase costs , closing costs and legal fees, was $1,838,560. What is your recommendation regarding the Initial Butte water rights purchase? Based on the average rate base calculation recommended by Staff, I am recommending that $677 452 of the investment be excluded from rate base.This amount represents the proportionate cost for the 5748 acre-feet (9248-3500=5748) of water that currently cannot physically be used.I based this adjustment on the lower amount that the Company indicates it may be able to use because in a very low water year as this one is expected to be, it is likely that no water will be available from the Ini tial Butte water rights.At such time in the future when United Water develops the physical capability to fully utilize all of the water authorized under the Initial But te water rights, Uni ted Water can seek to add the excluded amount to rate base. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 37STERLING, R. STAFF 633 Adjustments to Test Year Revenue and Expenses Staff witness English states in his testimony that Staff disagrees with many of the test year expense adj ustments proposed by Uni ted Water in this case. Exhibit No. 108, he shows Staff's proposed adjustments, but stated that you would discuss adjustment nos. 9, 11, , 13, and 3 1 .Please proceed to discuss each of these adj ustments. I discuss each of the adjustments in order below.Exhibit Nos. 121-125 show my computations for each adj ustment. Adiustment No.9 - Adiustment of Purchased Water Cost Before discussing the details of this adj ustment, please discuss how Uni ted Water acquires raw water (untreated surface water) for use at its treatment plants. United Water acquires raw water uslng a variety of mechani sms First, to the extent they are available, United Water acquires ownership of water rights, like Initial Butte which I previously discussed , that authorize water to be diverted from the Boise River.Owned water rights are considered capi tal assets, and investments made to acquire them are capitalized for ratemaking purposes. Second, Uni ted Water makes contractual purchases of water through a variety of mechanisms including lease CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 38 634 STERLING, R. STAFF and rental agreements, and ownership and lease of shares in canal companies.Some of the purchases made using these mechanisms are annual agreements, while others may extend for several years.In every case, however, Uni ted Water is required to make one or more annual payments, usually in the spring of the year once water availability is known and prices are established.Wa ter acquired through these mechanisms is considered "purchased water and booked as an expense for ratemaking purposes. The combination of owned water rights and contractual purchases make up a portfol io intended to fully meet the raw water requirements of the Marden and Columbia treatment plants.The availability of Idaho water supplies from year to year dictates how much of each water right can be satisfied, as well as the amounts and prices of water available for purchase, lease or rent. United Water must decide each spring how much water to purchase based on its forecast of water needs and availabili ty. United Water proposed an adjustment to test year purchased water costs of $87 528.Please describe how the Company arrived at its proposed adjustment amount. The proposed adjustment consists primarily of new contractual water purchases that the Company assumes it will make prior to the CWTP becoming fully operational. CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 STERLING , R. STAFF (Di) 39 635 To arrive at its proposed adjustment amount, United Water took the actual purchased water expense in the test year added the estimated costs for three purchases it expects to make in the coming year, and adj usted upwards the cost of one exi ting contract that is paid based on the quanti of water taken from Lucky Peak storage. Do you agree with the Company s proposed adj ustment? I ,agree that some adjustment is appropriate, but I disagree wi th the amount proposed by the Company. Contracts have yet to be signed for some of the raw water purchases the Company estimated it would make; consequently, they are not known and measurable.Only one new contract for $20,400 with the South Boise Water Company had been signed as of the preparation date of this testimony.I recommend that the pro forma purchased water expense consist of the budgeted test year expense of $ 97 ,437 as documented in the Company s supporting workpapers, plus the $20,400 for the one new signed contract.Thus, Staff's proposed adjustment is $20,400 as shown in Exhibit No. 121. Why are you proposlng to begin with the budqeted test year expense in making your adjustment rather than the actual test year expense? I recogni ze that the actual purchased water CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 636 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 40 expense for the test year of $107 788 was greater than the budgeted test year expense of $97 437.However, the obj ecti ve in adj usting purchased water costs is to determine an amount representative of normal water condi tions, not water condi tions that may be expected to occur this year or as they may have occurred during the test year.As a resul t, I used the budgeted test year amount because I believe it better represents the level of expenses United Water expects would occur in a normal year.I believe the actual expense for the test year was higher than normal because United Water had to purchase water to make up for other water that was unavailable due to poor water condi t ions in 2004.In fact , I believe United Water is estimating even higher purchased water expenses for 2005 because of even worse water conditions that will preclude it from receiving its full allotment under its water rights, contracts, leases, and shares in canal companles. Why have you excluded many of the water purchases Uni ted Water expects to make to supply water for the CWTP? In the workpapers provided by Uni ted Water in support of its proposed adjustment amount, the Company has In many instances included estimates of amounts it expects to spend for specific purchases (Fairview Lateral Ditch, CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 41 637 Black Canyon Irrigation , Basin 63 rental pool , etc. However, without signed contracts establishing specific prices, the Company s estimates are simply not known and measurable.Unlike the CWTP construction contract where there is a contract wi th a guaranteed maximum price, there are no signed contracts for water purchases in many cases. Staff is aware that United Water intends to sign contracts for additional water purchases prior to the summer , but without contracts in hand, or when contracts are provided to Staff at the 11th hour , Staff is unable to review them In the time frame established for this rate case. Consequently, Staff recommends they be considered in future case. Has United Water made any attempt to normalize its purchased water costs to consider the effect of varYlng raw surface water cost and availability from year to year? , United Water seems to have made no attempt to normalize its raw water purchase costs. . You discussed earlier that United Water builds a portfolio consisting of a combination of owned water rights and purchased water to supply water for its water treatment plants.Is your proposed adjustment to purchased water costs related to United Water s investment to acquire the Initial Butte water rights? CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING , R. STAFF (Di) 42 638 Yes, the adj ustment to purchased water expenses lS interrelated with the Company s Initial Butte water rights purchase.As I stated earlier, Uni ted Water is only able to currently utilize approximately half of the Initial Butte water rights due to seasonal minimum stream flows that must be maintained in the Boise River and inability to utilize water from the Snake River.Because only half or less of the Initial Butte water can be utilized, additional contractual water purchases are necessary.United Water should not be allowed to recover both the full investment for the Initial Butte water rights and the costs of contractual purchases of additional raw water because once Initial Butte is fully utilized at some time in the future, additional contractual water purchases likely will not be necessary. Thus, I propose that if the Commission decides to allow only half of the investment in Initial Butte water rights to be included in rate base, it consider allowing known and measurable adjustments to purchased water expenses. However , if the Commission decides to allow all of the Initial Butte water rights investment in rate base, it not allow full recovery of all of the raw water purchase expenses intended to supply the CWTP. Adlustment No. 11 - Adlustment of Purchased Power Expense Uni ted Water proposed an adj ustment to test year CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 (Di) 43STERLING, R. STAFF 639 purchased power expense of $514,265.Do you agree wi th the Company s proposed adjustment? The purpose of this adjustment is to adjust for the effect of Idaho Power s PCA on purchased power expense, and to adj ust for expected power costs at the columbia Water Treatment Plant and the associated raw water pumping station.I agree that an adjustment appropriate, but disagree with the amount proposed by the Company.I instead recommend an adjustment amount of $283,459.My proposed adjustment removes the effects of Idaho Power s PCA from both the test year and from the current rates being applied to the estimated usage. addition, my adjustment also utilized more accurate estimates of energy consumption amounts for the raw water pumping station as provided by the Company in response to Staff Production Request No. 94.In addition, I adjusted the cost assumed by the Company for CWTP redundant power and stand by charges to correspond to more accurate cost estimates included in the Company s response to Staff Production Request No. 95.Computations in support of my proposed adjustment are included as Exhibit No. 122. Adlustment No. 12 - Adlustment of Deferred Power Expense Please explain the purpose of this proposed adj ustment The purpose of this adj ustment is to reflect the CAS E NO. UW I - W - 04 - 4 04/06/05 (Di) 44STERLING, R. STAFF 640 amortization of deferred power expenses as established in Order No. 28505 in Case No. UWI-00-In that order, the Commission stated, United Water has requested authorization to defer on its books beginning May 1 , 2001 certain electric power costs. The Commission finds it reasonable to authorize such adeferral. The Company also proposes to apply a carrying charge on unamortized deferral balances at a rate equal to the customer deposit rate. The Commission finds it reasonable to reserve judgment on the recovery of the amount deferred as well as the appropriateness of any carrying charge until actual recovery is requested. United Water in this case is proposing to recover an amount of $1 550,000.This amount represents the Company s estimate of the deferral balance as it has accumulated from May 1, 2001 through May 31, 2005.Uni t ed Water is also proposing to amortize this amount over three years. Do you agree wi th the adj ustment proposed by United Water? I agree that United Water should be permitted to recover some amount of the deferral.However, I do not believe that the Commission should authorize recovery of the full amount requested by United Water.The purpose of the deferral was to allow Uni ted Water to seek some relief from the extraordinarily high power prices that resul ted from the 2000-2001 Western energy crlSlS.As depicted in Exhibit No. 123 , page 2 of 3, Mid-C prices had subsided by CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 45 641 mid-summer 2001, and Idaho Power s monthly PCA deferrals had returned to more normal levels by the beginning of 2002 .Idaho Power began recovering the massive PCA deferrals from customers through PCA rate adjustments in May of 2001.As shown on Exhibi t No. 123, page 3 of the average PCA charged to customers remained exceptionally high from May 2001 through May 2003. Although the PCA has remained fairly high since May 2003, it has been far below what it was the previous three years.I believe that the PCA surcharges since May 2003 have been almost exclusively the result of below normal water conditions, and have not in any way been influenced by the extreme market prlce crisis of 2000-2001. If you agree that Idaho Power s current PCA surcharge is considerably higher than it was historically prior to 2001 , why don t you believe United Water should be permitted to continue to defer its unusually high power expenses? I do not believe the Commission s authorization in Order No. 28505 for a deferral of power costs was intended to permi t Uni ted Water to recover above normal power costs that were strictly due to poor water condi tions.I bel ieve the deferral was intended only to provide temporary relief from the extremely high power costs resulting from the short-term Western energy crisis. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 46 642 Absent highly unusual circumstances like occurred in 2000- 2001, electric prices will deviate both above and below normal , and Idaho Power will have both PCA surcharges and credi ts.Consequently, I propose that Uni ted Water only be allowed to recover a deferral amount accumulated between May 1 , 2001 and May 31, 2003.This amount, based on the Company's accounting records, is $1 033,220. United Water has proposed to amortize deferred power expenses over a period of three years.Do you agree with the proposed amortization period? No, I believe that United Water's proposed amortization period of three years lS too short.In my opinion there are several things that should be considered when determining a reasonable amortization period for deferred expenses.First ,I believe that the length of time between rates cases is a factor.United Water s last rate case was four years ago in 2000.Second, I believe the amortization period should stretch over a period least as long as the time over which the deferral was accumulated.As discussed previously, I am recommending that deferred amounts accumulated over a two-year period from May 2001-May 2003 be approved for recovery.Finally, I believe that the length of the amortization period should be long enough to soften the impact on ratepayers, compared to the impact that would have been fel t if the CAS E NO. UW I - W - 04 - 4 04/06/05 (Di) 47 643 STERLING, R. STAFF expenses had been simply passed through during the time while they were being incurred.For these reasons, I recommend an amortization period of four years. approving deferral of extraordinary power costs, the Commission gave relief to the Company and its shareholders.By approving a four-year amortization period, I believe the Commission would be balancing the relief provided to the Company with commensurate relief provided to customers.Using a four-year amortization period and my recommended deferral amount, the pro forma annual amortization expense is $259,524. Uni ted Water has applied a carrying charge rate of one percent to the deferral balance.Do you agree that thi s is appropriate? The carrying charge rate proposed by United Water is based on the annual customer deposit interest rate approved by the Commission for Idaho Power in Case No. IPC-E-01-07, Order No. 28722.Staff believes a carrYlng charge is not warranted because, absent the deferred authori ty, these costs would not be recovered all.Recovery of the actual expendi tures from the deferral period , Staff believes, is sufficient relief wi thout also applying a carrying charge.However , s lnce these expendi tures are associated wi th the Western power crisis, and are totally outside the control of United CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 48 644 , 15 Water , Staff is willing to accept this carrYlng charge rate as appropriate for this issue in this case. Computations in support of Staff's proposed adj ustment are included as Exhibi t No. 123, page 1 of Adiustment No. 13 - Adiustment of Chemical Expense What is your recommendation with regard to adjustments to chemical expenses? The purpose of this adjustment is to normalize chemical expense using test year usage at current prices, to adj ust for expected chemical usage at the CWTP, and to normalize phosphate usage.I recommend accept ing the portion of the adjustment intended to normalize test year chemical expenses at current prices.I al so recommend accepting the estimated chemical expense associated with the CWTP.However , I recommend rejecting that portion of the adjustment intended to normalize phosphate usage. Why do you recommend rej ecting the portion of the adjustment associated with phosphate usage? The Company states that the phosphate expense has been normalized upward by $15,000 from the test year level because "Company operating personnel have learned through experience th~t certain areas of the system become \ unstable ' in the winter season , leading to an increased level of customer complaints, unless phosphate use continued through the winter season.(Reference Healy, CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 49 645 Di ., p. 16, ines 14 -18) Without judging the Company rationale, the fact remains that United Water did not increase its phosphate usage in the test year by $15,000; it only speculates that increased usage will be necessary in the future.The speculation about increased phosphate usage in the future simply fails the test of being known and measurable.Computations in support of Staff' proposed adjustment are included as Exhibit No. 124. Adlustment No. 31 - Adlustment of Expenses Related to Weather Normalization Do you agree with the Company s proposed adjustment of expenses related to weather normalization? Yes; however, I have made a very minor change to the Company s proposed adj ustment to maintain consistency with my earlier recommendation to remove the PCA from the power cost computations.The purpose of this adjustment is to normalize variable power costs and chemicals due to the negative weather normalization adjustment made by Uni ted Water.Removing the PCA effect from the power cost reduces the Company s total variable costs, thus slightly reducing Uni ted Water s proposed adj ustment Computations in support of Staff's proposed adjustment are included as Exhibi t No. 125. Pro Forma Revenue Adlustments Uni ted Water wi tness Gradilone has made several CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING , R. STAFF (Di) 50 646 adjustments to test year revenues as shown on his Exhibit 6, Schedule 1 , page 2 of Do you agree with his proposed adjustments to test year revenues? I have reviewed his proposed adjustments and agree with the adjustments for a) full pricing of South County water sales, b) weather normalizing adjustments, annualization of growth during the test year, and annualization of growth through May 31, 2005.These adjustments are shown in columns (2)(3) ,( 4), and ( 5 ) respectively of Exhibi 6, Schedule 1, page 2 of Are you proposing any other adjustments to revenue? Yes, I am proposing two minor adjustments to revenue at proposed rates.First, Uni ted Water wi tness Gradilone in Exhibi t No.6, Schedule 1 page 2 of 2 on ine 7 shows revenue associated wi th bulk hydrant sales. United Water s practice is to bill for bulk hydrant sales at the normal commodity rate charged to all other customers.If the commodity rate for all other customers is increased, a corresponding increase should be reflected in the revenue at the new proposed rates.I have reflected this increase in Staff's Exhibit No. 126. I am also proposing an increase in the rate United Water charges for rent on construction meters commensurate with the overall increase Staff recommends in CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 51 647 this case.I recommend that the rental rate on construction meters be increased from $20 per month to $25 per month.Even though United Water has not proposed an increase in the meter rental rate, I believe it would be inappropriate to not increase this charge associated exclusively with new construction, while increasing the commodity rates for all other customers.The increased rate will have a very minor effect on the Company revenues; nevertheless, the effect has been incorporated in Exhibi t No. 126. Rate Design What do you believe should be the objectives a good rate design? There are many obj ect i ves, but I bel i eve some of the most important are fairness, simplicity, effectiveness in sending a conservation signal, and sensitivity to the needs of low- income customers. Customer Charqes Uni ted Water is proposlng to increase the customer charge by 36.4 percent.Do you agree wi th thi proposal? No, I do not.The Company s proposal is to increase the customer charge by a percentage equal to half the difference between the overall requested revenue increase of 22.46 percent and the 51.1 percentage increase CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di) 52STERLING, R. STAFF 648 , 12 it believes can be supported by its cost of serVlce study. For a typical residential customer with a %-inch meter, the customer charge would lncrease from $14.57 bi -monthly to $19.86. In his testimony, Company wi tness Peseau states the definition of customer costs as defined by the American Water Works Association as follows: Costs directly associated with serving customers, irrespective of the amount of wateruse. Such costs generally include meter reading, billing, accounting, and collectingexpense, and capi tal costs related to meters andassociated services. On the other hand, he also acknowledges that the Commission Staff recently, in Case No. IPC-E- 03 -13, proposed that customer costs for electric utilities be defined more narrowly.In that case, the Commission accepted Staff's position that customer costs should be based on the direct costs of meter reading and billing and should not include any fixed plant cost.In Order No. 29505 issued on May 25, 2004 , the Commission stated, The Commission finds that a monthly service charge should recover costs that are directly attributed to the customer paying the charge. Typically, these charges are related to meter reading and customer billing. ... The Commission finds that the appropriate service charge for residential customers is $3.30 per month. This is an increase of 31.47%. We find a service charge of that amount provides a reasonable balance between recovering specific customer CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-4 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 53 649 service costs in .a fixed fee while preserving the ability to provide price signals forconservation purposes. Order at p. 53. In an even more recent rate case for Avista, Avista proposed to increase its basic customer or minimum monthly charge from $4.00 to $5.00 for residential customers.In rej ect ing the proposed increase, the Commission stated on October 8 , 2004 The Commission is unwilling to dampen the incentive for customers to conserve energy. For the residential customer that incentive generally a price signal and the ability to control the total bill amount. We find that the present customer charge for residential customers is sufficient to provide the Company with recovery of those costs that are directly attributed to the customer taking service. find that those charges are related to meter reading and customer billing costs, in this caseapproximately $2. 62/residential customer. While we are not incl ined to increase the charge; neither do we find a compelling reason todecrease it. Order No. 29602 at p. 33. I recommend an approach in this case that consistent wi th that accepted in the Idaho Power and Avista cases.Based on United Water s cost of service study, customer related metering and billing costs represent $3,752,687 of the Company s total normalized pro forma annual expenses of $38 141,514 (Peseau, Exhibit No. , Schedule 1, p. 1 of 2)If metering and billing costs were converted to a bi -monthly customer charge, the rate would be $7.04 for a typical residential customer with a %- inch meter.The current bi -monthly customer charge for CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 54 650 this customer is $14.57.Because the current charge already exceeds the charge that could be supported by the cost of service study for just customer billing and metering costs, I do not recommend an increase in the monthly customer charge.Even at the current rate ($14. bi-monthly = $7.29 monthly)United Water s customer charge is more than double Idaho Power s and nearly double Avista ' s. Are there any other reasons why you oppose any increase in the bi -monthly customer charges? Yes, another reason I oppose an increase in the customer charge is because it would have a disproportionate effect on customers who use small amounts of water.For these customers, the customer charge represents a greater proportion of their bill.For example, if United Water s proposed 36.4 percent increase in customer charge and 21. 5 percent increase in commodi ty charge were accepted, a customer with minimal consumption would face an overall increase closer to 36 percent, while a customer with a very large volume of consumption would face an overall increase closer to 21.5 percent.This tends to place more of the overall lncrease on those customers who are likely to already be more conservative in their water use.I do not believe these customers deserve to be "penalized" for their conservative CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di) 55STERLING, R. STAFF 651 consumption habits. In addition, many low- income customers are more likely to also be small water users.Staff has an interest in minimizing the impact of a rate increase on low- income customers, and maintaining customer charges at their current level will help to accomplish that obj ecti ve. Given that United Water s current customer charges are more than double an amount you estimate necessary to cover meter reading and billing costs, do you recommend a decrease in bi-monthly customer charges? No, I do not.Because the likely outcome of this case lS an overall increase in rates, I think that a reduction in any single component of rates is a step in the wrong direction unless there lS a very compelling reason to do so.In addition, a substantial decrease in the customer charge could create cash flow problems for United Water because so much more revenue would then have to be collected through commodi ty charges in the summer months when the maj ori ty of the consumption occurs. Finally, water utili ties generally have much higher fixed costs per customer than electric utilities; therefore, I do not believe it is unreasonable to collect a little more than just meter reading and billing costs in the customer charge. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 56 652 United Water s Proposed Rate Design In its Application, United Water has not proposed a new rate design but has instead proposed to retain the current rate design consisting of a fixed bi- monthly customer charge and a commodity rate with a summer/winter rate differential of 25 percent.Do you believe that the current rate design should be maintained? Although my preference is a two-block inverted rate design which I will discuss shortly, the current rate design has some posi ti ve features.First, the current rate design has been in place since 1993.Customers have now generally become accustomed to the summer/winter rate differential.Most understand its rationale and obj ecti ves, and many are motivated to conserve by the higher summer rates.Based on the number of comments and complaints received by the Commission Staff, many customers dislike the summer/winter rate differential believing that they are paying an unjustified "premium for summer water use rather than viewing it as getting a discount" for water used the remainder of the year. While Staff does not necessarily regard the number of complaints as an indication of ' a good rate design , the number of complaints regarding the seasonal rate differential is at least some indication that higher summer rates get customers ' attention and motivate some CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 653 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 57 people to conserve. Any time a new rate design is implemented, however , there is a period-sometimes a very lengthy one- during which customers must learn and become aware of the new rate design.Moreover, even more time is required for customers to adjust their usage patterns before the obj ecti ves of a new rate design can be achieved. believe the decision of whether to implement a new rate design should be based on an eval uation of whether the advantages of a new rate design outweigh the tradeoffs. 25% Summer/Winter Rate Differential Do you believe the 25 percent summer/winter rate differential should be maintained? Yes, I do.By having a commodity rate that 25 percent higher in the summer than in the winter customers are sent a strong conservation signal that helps to lessen United Water s peak summertime demands. Furthermore, I agree wi th Uni ted Water wi tness Peseau ' s conclusion from his cost of service study that there is a substantial difference in commodity costs of service between the winter and the summer. Do you believe that the summer/winter commodity rate differential should be increased to more than percent? No, I do not.I have reviewed United Water CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 58STERLING, R. STAFF654 wi tness Peseau ' s cost of serVlce analyses that show that the seasonal rate spread based on cost of service falls in the range of 25-70 percent.Although this is a very broad range and far from a precise conclusion, I do believe it demonstrates that a seasonal differential of at least 25 percent is warranted.I am not incl ined to propose a seasonal rate differential greater than 25 percent, howeve r .The 25 percent rate differential has been in place for more than 10 years now.Most customers, I believe, are now very aware of the rate differential.For many customers, if not most, the 25 percent rate differential, especially when combined with much higher summertime usage and bi -monthly bills, is enough to send a very strong conservation signal.Al though a greater seasonal rate differential might be supported by cost of serVlce, if the seasonal rate differential were increased even further, I expect it would be met wi th extreme resistance from many customers.Thus, I believe the current 25 percent seasonal rate differential should be maintained. Rate Desiqn Alternatives If the Commission wishes to consider alternative rate designs, what is your recommendation? Before any consideration is given to changing the current rate design, I believe that the Commission CASE NO. UWI-04-04/06/05 655 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 59 first needs to decide whether the practice of bi-monthly billing should be continued.Because there is a lengthy lag under bi-monthly billing between when water is used and when the customer is billed for it, customers have limited ability to respond to price signals.Since one of the obj ecti ves of good rate design is to send appropriate price signals, no rate design can be very effective if the price signal it sends is always two-months too late. Are there other issues to consider with regard to bi -monthly billing? Bi-monthly billing, combined with theYes. current 25 percent higher summer commodity rate tends to greatly inflate nearly all customers ' summertime bills. For some customers, the higher summertime bills are much higher that they have difficul ty budgeting and paying them.Monthly billing could relieve at least some of the burden of extremely high summertime bills for many customers. Would movlng to monthly billing dilute the price signal in the summertime? Because each bill, including those in the summer , would be half as large under monthly billing, there is some possibili ty that the price signal would be di mini shed.However , because there would only be a one- month lag between consumption and billing, and because CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 60 656 there would be a monthly price signal sent, I believe customers would receive just as strong of a conservation message as with bi-monthly billing. Has United Water estimated the cost of converting to monthly billing? Yes, the Company estimates the incremental cost of monthly billing as $1,086,000 per year.Tha t cos t alone would require an increase in the Company s annual revenue requirement of approximately 3.4 percent.The Commission would have to weigh this incremental cost against the benefits of monthly billing.Most likely, some customers would prefer to retain bi-monthly billing if it meant no increase in rates, while others would agree to pay more just to reduce the impact of their summertime bills. Is Staff proposing a new rate design in this case? No, Staff is not proposing to change the current rate design. Why not? In Case No. UWI-98-3, I proposed a change from the current seasonal rates, but the Commission rej ected proposal.In that case, I proposed a three-tiered inverted block rate design.I believed that a three-tier inverted block rate design would be more equitable, but I CASE NO. UWI-04-4 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 61 657 acknowledge that it would also be more complicated. Neither United Water nor Staff is proposing any change to the current rate design in this case; however, if the Commission wishes to consider a different rate design, what type of rate design would you prefer? My preference would be an inverted block rate design consisting of two blocks that would be in place year round.I believe an inverted block rate design would accomplish all of the same obj ecti ves as the current seasonal differential rate design, but would overcome some of the problems. Please generally describe your preferred inverted block rate design. Under an inverted block rate design, all customers-residential , commercial, industrial and public authori ty-would have a lower priced block and a higher priced block that would remain in place throughout the year.The consumption limi ts for each block would be set for each meter size in proportion to the quanti ty of water typically used by other customers with the same meter S l ze .The block limits would be designed so that most customers' usage would not fall wi thin the higher priced block except in the summertime.Customers whose usage remained fairly constant throughout the year may never have their usage fall wi thin the higher priced block. CASE NO. UWI - W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 62STERLING, R. STAFF 658 Why do you prefer such an inclining block rate design? There are several reasons why I prefer it. First, because rates remaln fixed throughout the year, it sends a conservation signal year round.This would provide a more consistent price signal to customers and, unlike the current summer/winter rates, would send a prlce signal be fore the summer season beg ins.Second, an inverted- block rate design does not give the impression penalizing" those customers whose usage does not increase significantly in the summertime.Third, by establishing block limits based on meter size, an inverted rate design can differentiate between the seasonal consumption patterns of large customers.Many large customers, particularly commercial and industrial ones, have a relatively flat consumption pattern throughout the year but under the current rate design, pay much more in the summer for the same amount of water used in other seasons of the year.In summary, I simply believe that an inverted block rate design provides greater fairness for more customers and still accomplishes a conservation obj ecti ve. Has the Commission adopted inclining block rate designs for other utilities? Yes , both Idaho Power and Avista now have CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 63STERLING, R. STAFF 659 inclining block rate designs. Are you recommending that an inclining block rate design be implemented in this case? My recommendation is that if the Commission wishes to consider an inclining block rate design or other al ternati ve designs, that further proceedings be ordered in this case to enable al ternati ve rate designs to be created, analyzed, and evaluated. Raws Given the revenue requirement increase of $581 069 recommended by Staff witness Harms that includes your adjustments to pro forma revenue as discussed earlier in your testimony, how do you propose to adjust rates to collect the 1.84 percent increase in revenue? I recommend that the commodi ty rates be increased uniformly by 2.38 percent to collect the additional revenues. My recommended rates are shown in Exhibit No. 127.Fixed service charges that are based on meter size remain unchanged from their present levels.However , the fixed rates for street sprinkling and flat rate service have been increased by 1.84 percent, consistent wi th the overall percentage increase in revenue requirement recommended by Staff.Fire protection tariffs have also been increased by the same percentage.My proposed CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 64 660 commodi ty rates are $1.0058 per ccf in the winter and $1.2574 per ccf in the summer. Have you prepared a rate proof to demonstrate that your proposed rates will generate Staff's proposed revenue requirement? My rate proof is included as Exhibit No.Yes. 126. Does this conclude your direct testimony in this proceeding? Yes, it does. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04-4 04/06/05 STERLING, R. STAFF (Di) 65 661 (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Staff Exhibit Nos. 121 through 127 having been premarked for identification , were admitted into evidence. Mr. Sterling is available forMR. STUTZMAN cross - examina t ion. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you.Okay. Let's start wi th Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:I believe I'll defer to Mr. Lobb for any questions, thank you. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Thank you. Mr. Eddie. CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR.EDDIE: do have few you - - first set quest ions are in reference to conservation questions, and Mr. Sterling, planning discussion that was reflected in Don Woj cik' s testimony filed on behalf of Idaho Rivers United and also in Mr. Wyatt's rebuttal testimony.If you're, more comfortable deferring the questions to Mr. Lobb that would be okay, but have you reviewed the Woj cik testimony and Mr. Wyatt' testimony with regard to the conservation planning issues? 662 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Yes , I have. And you I re aware that in Mr. Wyatt I s rebuttal testimony, he essentially agrees with Mr. Woj cikl s call request to the Commission for a updated conservation plan to be submitted? Yes. Is there -- does Staff have a position on the development of a new and updated conservation plan for United Water? Yes,think would support or updatereVlSlons the plan.far remembe r the last conservation plan was 1993,it I probably quite outdated. As I see it, the one outstanding issue is the timing for development of that plan.Were you here when Company witness Scott Rhead was discussing the difficulty acquiring water supplies for 2005? Yes. And m not golng mouth,but to put words in Mr. Rhead' light of that discussion, do you think it would be important to have conservation opportunities or an updated analysis of conservation options in place and ready for implementation as soon as possible? Yes. Perhaps before summer 2006? I think that's probably feasible, before next 663 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff summer. I wanted to turn to a fewThank you.'Great. questions about rate design which was discussed in your testimony.At pages - - well , page 64 of your testimony, lines 14 to 25, you discuss here what you describe as your preferred rate design which is an inverted block rate.Maybe you should take a minute to review that just so that you I refreshed? Okay. Would it -- would you agree that the typical or average indoor water use - - indoor water use - - by customers in each class or in each category that you've identified , that that figure would generally correlate with the "break point that you ve identified for the block rate? m not sure I understand the question. m trying to put a little more detail to your suggested break point between the blocks of your preferred al ternati ve and how an analysis might be done to determine that exact break point, and I'm suggesting that it's average indoor water use within each category.Would you agree with that assessment? Well, United Water I s tariffs bill a customer according to meter size and there are many different meter slzes even wi thin residential customers, and so each - - each meter size would have to have associated with it its own block 664 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff limits.And there are lots of different ways that you could establish those block limits, but average indoor water consumption would be one and it wouldnl t necessarily be unreasonable. Okay.I guess I'm wondering whether Staff supports a more thorough investigation into setting to discussing inverted block rates, where break points would happen and how - - how revenues would be collected under a block rate design.Would you support a further investigation of those issues following this rate case? Well , I think that would be something really for the Commission to decide how far they want to proceed wi that, if at all.We certainly would be willing to look at it if the Commission wanted to go that direction. I proposed an inverted block rate design in Uni ted Water I s last rate case and that was rej ected.Whether or not the Commission wishes to look at that again , I think we would want to have some indication from them as to whether or not they would want to address rate design in this proceeding or In some subsequent proceeding. Okay. Nothing further.MR. EDDIE:Thanks. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you. Mr. Strickl ing. MR. STRICKLING:Thank you. 665 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. STRICKLING: Mr. Sterling, In your testimony, you talk about the RFP process used by Uni ted Water to choose their - - the contractor ul timately, CDM? Right. And there were other proposers for that contract. Is that correct? Yes, there were. And in your testimony, you indicate that United Water chose the second highest proposal? Well , there were - - there were varlOUS cri teria that were used in the ranking process , but considering all of the criteria, some price criteria and some other criteria , the one that scored second to highest was the one ul timately chosen by the Company. Okay.And your discussion wasn't based on target pricing, but they did ask for target price proposals, did they not? Yes, they did. And there was a difference between the proposers that you reviewed? We were only able to review two of theYes. target prlce figures because that I s all the Company was able to 666 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 STERLING (X) Staf f provide to us. Okay.And yesterday I believe Mr. Wyatt indicated there was a difference between CDM and the next proposer of about 42 000.He indicated about 888,000 between that and 846,000.Were you hereDo you recall that testimony? yesterday? Yes, that was the difference between - - there were two parts to the price part of the proposal.There was a fixed fee price and that's the part that you just referred to the difference.There was also the target price which you referred to earlier , which was a separate piece of each proposal. And did that include an engineering difference in the engineering proposal? Did which include? The total price that was estimated there. Well, there were - - the engineering costs were actually included I believe in the target price, and then there was a profit piece that was included in the fixed price. And what was the total difference in the target prlce between the first proposal and second proposal? I believe in my testimony - - and I can't point you to the page immediately - - but I believe I gave a range somewhere in my testimony. Would it have been more than the $42 , OOO? 667 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Yes , it was. Could it have been in the $600,000 range? I think it was probably even more than that. From your testimony, it indicates that the decision to go with the second proposal, with CDM , was not made at the local level? Well , there were local people involved in the decision, but I think ultimately the influence to choose the proposal that they did was - - came from the New Jersey office. And , again , it was other factors besides costs? I assume there were other factors as well , yes. From the documents that you viewed, was there any indication that the highest proposer could not have performed the work suitably? No, I bel ieve - - I bel ieve any of the companies that made proposals could have done the work.In fact , I think that's why those four firms were chosen or invited to bid because the Company bel ieved any one of those four could have done the job. Okay. MR. STRICKLING:I have no further questions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you. Mr. Campbell. MR . CAMPBELL:Thank you. 668 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. CAMPBELL: Mr. Sterling, turning to your revised testimony on page 34, can you tell me specifically what the revision pertained to and wi th regard to the IMAP proceeding?I see that -- I don't have a copy of my original testimony, but I believe that the revision was primarily - - the revision associated with IMAP primarily was in line 6 and 7. The original testimony indicates that you were proposlng a $644 700 in investment related to the Company I IMAP be excluded from rate base, and your current testimony that the minimum be -- $332 748 -- be excluded.Is that correct? Yes. Can you tell me why you made that adjustment to your test imony? Because when I did further investigation after my initial testimony was submitted, I think I concluded that there are portions of the IMAP process that aren t exclusively associated with preserving and protecting water for future use; that some of that work associated with IMAP involves water rights that are currently being used by the Company and not being held or protected for future use. 669 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff And what did you base that upon?You said, "further investigation.Can you tell me specifically what you relied upon? It was a combination of documentation that we reviewed from Department of Water Resources, as well as verbal conversation with Water Resources staff. Okay.Did you rely upon the rebuttal testimony of Mr. Rhead at all? I donl t believe that I relied on it necessarily, but I do believe the reason that we investigated it further had to do with some of the Production Requests that were made by the Company, which they then followed up with rebuttal testimony as reflected in Mr. Rhead I s rebuttal. Okay.And did any of this adjustment result from your evaluation the utilization the IMAP with respect the Snake River Bas in Adjudication process? No,not specifically. Okay.With regard your testimony concerning water right -- or , excuse me -- Water Permit No. 63-31409 on page 34 and 35, has that testimony been changed at all from your ini t ial ? Yes , as I explained earlier, there is -- the response to the question regarding that water right that begins on 34 has been revised , and now there is a page 34a and a 34b that have been added to my testimony. 670 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Okay.Were you present in the hearing room when Mr. Rhead testified yesterday? Yes , I was. Did you hear his testimony that no water has been diverted under this water permit to date? Yes, and that was my understanding as well , even before hearing his testimony. All right.Turning your attention to page 35 of your testimony on direct, line 16 through 21 , can you tell me what you base your statement that the exchange of water authorizes United Water to divert for irrigation purposes within its authorized service territory up to 35.21 cfs from the Boise River? I believe that was based on information that was contained in the files from the Department of Water Resources concerning the exchange. I see. Thank you.That's all I have.MR . CAMPBELL: COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you Mr. Campbell. Let's move to Mr. Miller. MR. MILLER:Thank you, Mr. Cha i rman . 671 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. MI LLER : Maybe if it's all right with you, Mr. Sterling, I III start essentially at the end of your testimony and then ei ther work backwards or touch on some other issues.Let me start wi th a couple of the rate design questions. Now , would you agree that as the case stands or the record stands in this case , no party has put forward a specific proposal for a change in rate design that could be implemented in this case? Yes, I would agree. If the Commission is interested in further exploration of possible changes to the current summer/winter differential in favor of inverted blocks or something else, that could ei ther be done in a follow-up proceeding to this case or in Uni ted Water's next general rate case, presumably. Would those be the two options that you would see? Yes , I would say so. I presume the potent ial advantage of doing it in a follow-up proceeding would be getting to it quicker.On the other hand, that could potentially involve a major change in rates that customers would have to understand in between rate cases.Correct? Yes. 672 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff And if you made a maJor change in rate design outside of a rate case , it would be more difficult to, In effect, do a rate proof to be sure that the rates were collecting the revenues that were allowed by the Commission. It would be easier to do that , to make those decisions , in the context of a general rate case, would it not? Yes , probably so. In the Company I s rebuttal testimony based on what the Company saw in testimony from the other parties , the Company affirmatively is endorsing and encouraging the Commission to adopt a monthly billing format as opposed to the current bimonthly billing format.Do you understand that? Yes. Is the Staff opposed or neutral or supportive on the question of moving to monthly billing? I think at this point the Staff is undecided. don't think we've established a position.You know , we would have to take a look at the benefits and the costs and determine what we thought would be best.We see some advantages to monthly billing, but we also understand that it comes at a prlce. Would one of the advantages be a more timely prlce signal to consumers? Yes, that would be one. Another would be, as Ms. Ottens indicated this 673 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff mornlng, it might make budgeting for some customers more manageable? Yes, it could do that. It might provide a more useful consumption history since you would have 12 units of consumption as opposed to six in order to compare year to year? Yes. Okay.And is it al so the case that a move to monthly billing would give the opportunity to the Commission if it desired to take it, the ability to perhaps make some upward movement on the customer charge wi thout undue hardship to consumers? I t all depends on the consumer.Some people would recognize that as an increased customer charge no matter how you framed it , but - - whether it was spread over two months or all put in one month - - but it may appear to be less of a customer charge to some customers. Right.The Company has provided an estimate of the cost to implement monthly billing.Has the Staff undertaken to analyze or conf irm the reasonableness of that estimate? No.We are aware of the estimate.We have looked at how the number was derived, but we've really not made - - at least I have not made any attempt, nor am I aware that any other Staff member has made' any attempt to evaluate 674 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff the reasonableness of any of those estimates. At least based on your initial review , I infer by lack of obj ection that you didn t see anything that seemed crazy? No, I wouldn t necessarily say that.All I did was I took the number that was given to us as an estimate from the Company.I ran it through, I did some calculations to see how much that would increase the rates, but I made no attempt to evaluate the reasonableness of the estimate. I believe the estimate came with some backup that showed, for example, X number of new customer service representatives at X wage for total increase to wages , X number of new pickups at X price per pickup.Do you remember seeing that? Yes , I did, but, you know , a lot of those kind of costs are - - that I s not my area of expertise , so it I S - - would be difficult for me to evaluate those things anyway. would probably be something another Staff person would be more qualified to do than But if it's simply a matter of multiplying four new employees by the existing wage, I mean, there's not much room for error in that? No, but I don t know that it would be four employees could do it or three employees could do it or two employees, or what the wages for those employees would be. 675 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Those things are not my area of expertise. Well , I guess to say it the other way, Staff has no basis for - - at this point - - for asserting that the estimated annual cost is unreasonable? No, we - - we've taken no posi tion on the reasonableness of that number , or the unreasonableness of that number, whichever way you want to present it. Right.But you're not saying to the Commission this lS a crazy number , you should probably discredit it? I think it I S probably in the ballpark.No. Whether it's too high or too low , I can't say, but I think it' probably in the range of reasonableness. Okay.Let me ask you a few questions about the current level of the customer charge.Staff is proposing in this case no change to the customer charge, assumlng monthly , bimonthly continues.Did I understand that correctly? That I S right. The current charge, as I understand it, is 14.50 -- $14.57 on a bimonthly basis.Is that your understanding? For a three-quarter-inch meter. Right. It's different for every meter Slze, but that's a common residential meter size. And for the purpose of our discussion , let' 676 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff stick with the three-quarter residential. Okay. The Company's proposal is to move that charge to $19.86, which is halfway between the overall proposed increase of 22 percent and the 51 percent increase indicated by the Company I s cost of service studies.Have I That I S my understanding, yes. Right.And Staff did in this case review the cost of service study that was performed by Dr. Peseau and his firm? Yes , I did. And , likewise, you reviewed the cost of serVlce study that was performed by other consultants in United Water I previous rate case, you or the Staff did? Probably the last two rate cases I'm familiar with. In reading the Staff testimony in this case, contrasted to my recollection of Staff testimony in prevlous cases , the Staff in this case did not have disputes or criticisms with the methodology and the results of the cost of service study prepared by Dr. Peseau, in contrast to prevlous cases where it was there were cri tic isms.Is that a fair summary? Well , we didn't have any objection to or any particular problems wi th his cost of service study, but I would 677 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff also say that except for comlng up wi th a customer charge which we didn't support, the cost of service study really wasn t used that much to derive the rates in this case because there it I S really the same rate design as before , only with a little higher customer charge. Now , the cost of service study did seem to confirm that the current summer/winter differential of percent is wi thin a cost of service rate.Am I correct on that? Yes , and I would accept that. So the question is the customer charge, and the maJ or element that's involved there, is it not, is the cost of meters and services , the question of how you recover the cost of meters and services? Well, Staff I s position in this case is that the customer charges should only be recovering the cost of meter reading and billing.Very often though other fixed costs such as meters and services are sometimes a part of the customer charge, and there is often a debate as to whether or not they should be recovered through the customer charge or through some other mechani sm. In Response to Production Request No.3 7 , did you acknowledge that the cost of meters does not vary by consumption? Yes. 678 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 STERLING (X) Staff And in Response to the same Interrogatory or Production Request , did you acknowledge that the cost services does not vary by consumption? Yes , I did. And in the same Response to Production Requests, did you acknowledge that there is not a - - an economic rationale for recovering costs of meters and services in volumetric charge? Well -- Might be other reasons , but there is not an economic rationale? Well , I think Staff I s perception was not based on economic rationale. But you agree that from a standpoint of economic rationale, there is not a basis for recovering the cost of meters and serVlces in the volumetric charge; you might have other reasons, but they're not -- I would agree wi th that. Right.And I bel ieve that one of the reasons that you - - the noneconomic reasons that you indicated was that you believe it would be consistent with the approach taken by the Commission in the Avista and Idaho Power Company cases? Yes. All right.Do you think it I S a meaningful comparison to compare rate structures for electric utilities 679 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff and water utilities without taking into account the underlying cost differences of the Company - - of the types of companies and wi thout taking into account, as you acknowledge, the more capital-intensive nature of water utilities? Well , I certainly think you have to consider those things and it is - - I do agree that there are a lot more fixed costs associated with a water utility, and the question really becomes how much of those fixed costs should you recover t hroug h customer charge.And when you have a water utility wi th lot fixed cost,that means if you intend to recover all them through customer charge,you have ve high customer charges compared to electric utilities. I believe Dr. Peseau calculated that, currently, approximately 55 percent - - 65 percent of the cost of meters and services is recovered through the volumetric charge.Woul d you agree or at least not dispute that percentage? I can't veri fy whether it's 65 percent or not, but I wouldn't disagree with it.I m notI would accept that. surpri sed. Did you happen to look at Dr. Peseau' Exhibi t 14 , Schedule I?I don't know if you happen to have hi testimony with you. I believe I have it.It will take me a second to -- Okay, I've got it. 680 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff I thought this was a somewhat interesting exhibit that might be worth spending just a moment to understand. Are we on page 1 of that exhibi Yes, sir. MR. STUTZMAN I m sorry, I could use the reference agaln.Wha t is it? Schedule 1, page MR. MILLER: MR. STUTZMAN Of exhibi t Exhibi t 14.MR. MILLER: BY MR. MILLER:And I could well be wrong, but as I understand the exhibit, the second portion of it, the summary of revenues - - rates and revenues by component would indicate, to me, that this is an allocation summary of the cost of service results which would show winter volumetric costs of eight million, summer volumetric costs of 18 million , customer costs of 11 million. Yes, I would accept that. And of the $11 million in customer costs, it would indicate that 6.7 million are meters and services? Yes. Is that the way you'd understand it? And if 65 percent of those nonvariable costs for which there is not an economic rationale to recover in a volumetric charge are, in fact, in the volumetric charge, a very large number in comparison to the total fixed costs is in 681 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff variable volumetric charge , lS it not? Yes , it is.I would point out too though that, you know , I think it I S always been the case.This particular case is not unique.I think for quite some time and maybe it I s always been the case that Uni ted Water has probably never recovered all of their fixed costs through the customer charge, and it I s - - furthermore, it's not unique just to Uni ted Water ei ther.I think there are other utilities, even electric utilities , where all of the fixed costs are not recovered through the fixed charge. There may be some practical judgmental reasons for not doing it, but it I S worthwhile understanding the magnitude of the issue we're dealing with? Absolutely. Yeah.And it would also be true, would it not that the more you attempt to recover fixed costs in a volumetric rate, the more you produce the possibility of revenue instability and revenue underrecovery for the Utili ty? I think there I s some possibility for that to happen , yeah. Well, if the volumetric rate is essentially subsidi zing the costs of meters and services, there's a possibili ty that revenue recovery In the volumetric rate will be insufficient to cover the cost of meters and services, 682 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff obviously? Well , I think that only happens though if new customers use less water than existing customers, and I think there is some evidence of that for Uni ted Water.So that I s why I agree that it could happen and probably will happen to some extent. Right.And to the extent people believe that keeping the customer charge low has a beneficial conservation effect , isn I t it true that any subsidized rate structure has incorrect price signals from an economic point of view? Yes, that I s true. In a perfect world, if you wanted to send the right conservation signal, you would adjust the volumetric charge and collect the fixed charge through a fixed cost because that would be the more precise conservation price signal , would it not, in a perfect world? Yes, probably in a perfect world , yeah.I f we -- you know , if we were to set the customer charge at what cost of service would support, it would probably be even quite a bit higher than what Dr. Peseau has recommended. Right.And the Company has attempted to strike some balance that takes into account all of those things.The point I'm trying to discuss with you is the problems of the current system, that it I S not really a effective conservation signal , that there are other ways to accomplish that. 683 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING o. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 STERLING (X) Staff . 18 Well - - And I think the last reason that you relied on f or change to the customer charge is your concern about impact to low volume users and a seemingly disproportionate price change to those users by raising the customer charge , and I guess it occurred to me the question is why is it a penalty to anybody to pay the - - something approaching a fair share of the nonvariable costs through the nonvariable rate? I don't know that I've characterized it as a penal ty.AllIt's just very unpopular with most customers. customer charges for every utility, no matter what they are or how high they are , are very unpopular wi th customers, and it I S particularly exaggerated for United Water because it's a bimonthly billing system so you've got, in effect, two monthly customer charges on the same bill.And for United Water it I particularly unpopular when customers pay three or $4 to their electric utility for a customer charge and don't really realize why it should be any different for Uni ted Water. Two minor quibbles, I guess.You indicated that you didn t characterize this as a penalty, but on page 55 of your testimony, you do characterize an increase in the charge as penalizing low income or low volume customers. MR . S TUT ZMAN :What line are you referring to? MR. MILLER:, I don t know.I believe the last line, Weldon. 684 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578 , BO IS E , I D 83701 STERLING (X) Staff THE WITNESS:What page and line was that again? BY MR.MILLER:Page don'see anything customer charge. in that sentence that refers , line 25, approximately. Do you see something in it that refers to penal ty? Yes, I do. And isn't it in connection wi th your discussion of customer charge? What I'm referring to in that paragraph is if you - - if you only lncrease - - if you increase the customer charge by a certain percentage - - in this case it was proposed 36 percent - - and the commodity charge is proposed to increase at some different percentage, various water users will depending on how much water they use, will experience overall percentage increases that are qui te different , and a customer who uses a small amount of water will experience a higher overall increase because of the 36 percent customer charge increase. And this is just a quibble, but it I S not really a penal ty for a person to pay the cost of providing the service to that person , is it? No, but again , the point I'm trying to make that certain customers would be affected differently if United Water I S rate proposal was accepted. 685 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff others just their bill. because customer charges are a bigger portion of Certainly. Some would experience a higher increase than And the Commission, in its judgment, can take into account disparate impacts and moderate moves towards cost of service obviously in its judgment? Certainly. Then just one mlnor quibble before we leave this area.You indicated that customer charges are unpopular. was going to take this point up with Ms. Cooper , but perhaps can just do it with you. Ms. Cooper's Exhibi t 128 contains a summary of complaints and inquiries received by United Water over the last three years , and you may not have this wi th you.I f you don I let me just , for example , represent that in 2004 of 52 total complaints received by the Company, one related to the customer charge.In 2004 , the total of 18 inquiries received , two related to the customer charge.And in Ms. Cooper I s testimony regarding comments received by the Commission in this case, I believe she indicated that she received - - reviewed 102 written comments and three obj ected to a customer charge. So if customer charges are a source of such enduring and dramatic unpopularity, it doesn I t reflect in these numbers, does it? 686 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X) Staf f No, it doesn't reflect in these numbers , but would also point out that I think United Water's customer charge has been at least as high as it is now since probably at least 1993, and I think there was a period of time when they were even higher than they are now.So customers have been paYlng these customer charges for qui te a number of years and are - - they may be accustomed to them.I don't think they happy with them , but they're used to them.They accept them, but grudgingly. Ready for an increase then? Didn't say that. MR. MILLER:Mr. Chairman , I wonder if this would be an appropriate time to give Mr. Sterling and myself a short break. What about the rest of us?MR . CAMPBELL: MR . MI LLER :You ve got to stay in here. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay, we'll go ahead and take a 10-minute break, and doing my math we'll be here at the top of the hour.So we'll go off the record. (Recess. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:We'll go back on the record.Mr. Miller was in the midst of cross with witness Sterl ing. Mr. Miller, if you I d like to continue. MR. MILLER:Thank you, Mr. Cha i rman . 687 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Mr. Sterling, I'd like to nowBY MR. MI LLER : discuss with you your proposed adjustment regarding the Company's purchased power expense, and that discussion is on what page of your testimony again? I don't know.I need help finding it as much as you do. MR . S TUT ZMAN :Thirty-eight , perhaps. Thirty-eight?THE WITNESS:Is that what someone said? A VOICE:Forty- three. MR . WALKER:You said 43? Right.MR. MILLER: Do you have that general area ofBY MR. MILLER: your testimony in mind? Yes, I do. As I understand it, your proposal is to eliminate costs associated wi th the Idaho Power Company PCA charge, both as an adjustment generally to purchased power expense and in connection wi th Columbia water treatment plant power expense. Is that correct? Yes. And as I understand your theory, it is that Idaho Power I S base rates reflect a normal level of electric power expense, and by removing the PCA cost, you have, in effect, normalized the Company's electric power expense.Is that a 688 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff fair statement of your approach? Yes , it is. Do I understand you correctly that the Idaho Power PCA has been in effect, I believe , since 1991? I would accept that, yes. And do you happen to know in how many of the years Slnce 1991 the PCA has been exactly zero? I don't know for certain , but I would guess it' probably zero years. Right.So there has never , s lnce the PCA has been in effect, been a normal year in the sense that the PCA has been zero? I would accept that , yes. Is it correct that in every case -- in every United Water case Slnce the PCA has been in effect, the Commission has accepted a power expense all - - or , allowance for United Water Company that has included a purchased power expense component? m not aware of that.I can't say whether it I s been the case or not.I m just not aware. Are you aware that in every case since the PCA has been in effect , that the Company has included its test year level of electric power expense and then updated that number for the most current known level of PCA expense the Company will incur under the Idaho Power Company tariffs? 689 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Again , I'm not aware of it.Thi s would be the first United Water rate case that I have reviewed that particular expense , and had I reviewed any in prior years, my recommendation would be similar to this case. Would you accept , subj ect to check then , that this proposal is new? It would have to be subj ect to check , because have absolutely no indication that that's the way it was done in the past. Are you aware of the way the Company has proposed it in this case; that is, they have their test year level of expense, then Mr. Healy has taken the most current Idaho Power Company filing and priced the electric power. at the PCA level that's expected to go into effect within the next few days to weeks? My recollection of what he did was first he removed the effect of the PCA from the test year purchased power expense, but for the - - in making his adj ustment, incorporated the existing PCA in his computations, did not remove it. And it was the PCA that was currently in place , not the PCA that's now under consideration by the Commission. And isn I t that exactly the way it's been done in all previous cases? Once again , I don't know. Would you admi t that PCA expenses are real , just 690 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff as are kilowatt hour charges and demand charges that are charges that are actually billed and incurred and must be paid? Certainly. If the Commission were to follow your recommendation , wouldn t it be logical that the Company be entitled to a surcharge to collect the PCA charges it actually faces and pays? , I don't believe so. it I S your recommendation that even though never been a zero PCA year and even though we know PCA charges the Company will face least during there has the level the first year of the rate period , the Company shouldn't be able to recover them? No.And even if I was willing to do that, it would only be under the condition that the Company be required to refund money to customers in years when there's a surcharge. That would be fair.m not recommending that, but - - because the PCA sometimes is a credi t, sometimes it I S a surcharge. happens to be a surcharge right now. And the Company is proposing to include in its rate case expense the known and measurable level of PCA expense it will face in the first year of the rate period , is it not? It's known and measurable, but it I S not normal and that's the reason that I don't believe it should be 691 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff included. Even though there has never been a normal year the way you define it? There has never been a year when the PCA has been zero, but as I stated previously, there I s been many years where the PCA is a credi t and other years when the PCA is a surcharge.Over a course of time, over a long period of time, in theory, those credi ts and those surcharges should balance out, so if United Water is allowed to recover through rates now when there I s a surcharge, that's not fair to customers unless they're wi 11 ing to give a re fund when there is a credi t . But it is the methodology that's been followed, and if the Commission wanted to implement a system of surcredi ts and surcharges for electric power expense , certainly the Company would consider that, but at the present time, this is the method that's been followed, is it not? Once again , I don t know that this is the method that I S been used in the past, and again , if it had been , I would have opposed it then as well. But you're willing to accept, subj ect to check the accuracy of my representation to you? Which part of your representation? That it I S consistent wi th the practice that I been followed routinely. I would have to check that to convince mysel 692 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X) Staff that that, in fact , is the case.m not sure that it is. Another area relating to power is deferred power. And just to sort of set the stage here , is it correct that in Order No. 28800 , the Company -- or , the Commission permitted the Company to commence a deferral for PCA-related expenses also in connection with the Idaho Power Company PCA? Yes, that is true. I just want to check one thing. And that Order was entered in 19 - - or , pardon me - - in the year 2001? I believe so, yes. And it has not , to your knowledge , Slnce been rescinded, modified , or al tered in any way by the Commission? No. And is there any dispute that the Company has calculated a deferral of $1 469 000, plus or minus? No, we don't dispute the amount. So the calculation of the deferral as approved by the Order is correct as far as Staff is concerned? Well , no, I wouldn't state it that way.We have no - - Staff has no dispute with regard to the amount that has been deferred.The amount that should be recovered though , we do disagree wi th the Company on that. I understand that.But from a mathematical point of view , the amount that I s been recorded as a deferral is not 693 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff disputed? That I S correct.We don - - we don't have any dispute over the calculations of the Company, of the deferral. And if I could state your theory of the recommendation, and I don t want to misstate it, but as understand it is that the Company should be permi t ted to amortize and recover costs that were associated with the electricity market crlSlS, so to speak , in the years -- in the early years of the deferral , but it should not be able to recover costs associated with variable water conditions that occurred thereafter? That's a fair characterization. Okay.Now , would you agree that regulated companles and others who have business before the Idaho Commission rely on Commission Orders as meaning what they say, and that is , that the Commission Orders don t have hidden meanlngs that reasonable people cannot fathom? Yes. Is there anything in Order 2800 (sic) that limits the deferral in the manner you have suggested? No, but as shown in my testimony, I've quoted a portion of the Order on page It clearly states that the Commission finds it reasonable to reserve judgment on the recovery of the amount deferred , as well as the appropriateness of any carrying charge , until actual recovery is requested , and 694 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff tha ti s now. And does the Order ordering language:Say it is hereby ordered that the Commission does hereby approve establishment of a deferral account for incremental costs relating to recent and future PCA related increases? I don't believe I have a copy of the Order in front of me, so I would have to accept that you re reading directly from the Order. And there I s nothing in the Order that advises the Company or anybody else that the deferral is limited to market crisis costs as opposed to any other PCA type costs, is there? No, but there's - - by the same token , there' nothing that says the Company shall be allowed to defer these costs indefini tely for whatever reason they may be higher than a zero PCA. At any time during the course of this deferral did the Staff in any way advise the Company that the Staff believed the purpose of the deferral had expired and the Company should stop the deferral? No. The first time the Company was aware that there was any possibility that these amounts deferred might not be recovered was when we saw your testimony.Isn't that correct? 695 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BO IS E , I D 83701 STERLING (X) Staff Well , I think the Company should have known and expected even from the time the Order was issued that there would be some limitation to how long they would be able to defer those costs, that they couldn t defer them forever.The Commission clearly stated in its Order that they would reserve judgment on the amount of the deferral.And the reason for that was that I believe at the time that Order was issued , we were still in the midst of that power crisis and we didn I t know how long it was going to persist, and until the Commission knew better of just how long we were going to experience those extremely high prices , it was really not realistic for the Commission to establish a deferral amount or a period over which that deferral could accumulate. Well , it was recognized and obviously continued to accrue until the next rate case, and that's when accrual was -- I think that was the Company's request, but the Commission certainly didn't accept that in the Order. It is true, as you acknowledged at the start that the Company has actually spent this amount for electric power over the past years for the PCA to serve its customers. Right? That's true. All right.And there I s nothing in the language of the Order that limits the PCA deferrals to market crlSlS 696 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X) Staff costs, is there? A ., I think the Order is silent wi th regard to that. Right.And these electrons that the Company purchased didn I t come labeled wi th "market crisis electrons II or "bad water electrons II attached to them , did they? No, they didn'I think , you know, if the Commission were to allow that deferral to continue, you know what would be the rationale for the Commission not to allow the Company to defer a PCA next year or the following year or the year after that as long as it I S a positive PCA.The Commi s s ion has not done that in the past. Well , obviously, the Company I s Application requests the PCA in its rates , which you oppose, and the presumption obviously is that the deferral would end with this case? Again , I believe that I s the Company' presumption.I don t believe that's necessarily anyone else' presumption. All right. MR. MILLER:I think those are all the questions for this wi tness. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you , Mr. Miller. Let's move to members of the Commission.Are there questions from members of the Commission? 697 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (X)Staff Commissioner Hansen. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Well, Mr. Sterling, maybe you're not the right person to ask these questions , but where you had discussion wi th Mr. Miller about the customer charge, I've got a couple questions I'd like to ask you , and one is where I'm not a customer myself of United Water, I don'-- I'm not really familiar wi th their billing to the customers.And could you tell me how that billing is structured, like is it just a commodity charge and then a customer charge, or is the billing more unbundled to show meter reading charges and more of a breakdown , or is it just basically customer charge and commodi ty charge , do you know? I can speak to how the charges are determined. Now , exactly what appears on the bill , you may want to ask Carol Cooper that, but there are two parts to the bill. There's a customer charge that's a fixed amount that is dependent upon your meter si ze; and then there is a commodi charge which is a rate per ccf or hundred cubic feet that' based on your meter reading.And those two components are then added together to come up with your total bill. The commodi ty charge is 25 percent higher in the 698 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com) Staf f summer than it is in the winter, but it's the same commodity rate for all customers regardless of meter size or type of customer, residential versus commercial , or so forth. So as I understand in your testimony and I think it's on page 53 , you talk about the commodity charge of 14. bimonthly.Now , you just said it I S 25 percent more in the summer - - the commodity charge - - than it is in the winter? The commodity charge isn I The customer charge is. The customer? The customer charge is the same year-round.It I s the commodity charge that I s 25 percent higher. And so we talked earlier about the average monthly billing being per customer, residential customer , on an annual basis, would be an average of about $27 a month or $54 bimonthly, and wi th the 14., that - - the customer charge then would be about , in my calculation , would be about 25 percent of the bill.And if it was raised up to 19.86 bimonthly, as proposed, that would be more than a third of the bill would be to customer charge. And my question is - - lS do you know whether a 25 to 35 percent customer charge is an acceptable amount for water companies to assess to customers?I mean , you know , we talked about I think , you know , earlier with Mr. English about what - - what's acceptable to water companies.What - - do you 699 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff ,,' have an idea of whether this range of 25 to 35 percent would be acceptable as what an average water company customer charge is? Well , I certainly have not conducted any kind of a survey of water companies to see what their customer charges are and how much those customer charges are in relation to an average customerl s bill, but I think it's quite common that customer charges are kept artificially low , if you want to use that term lower than what cost serVlce might justify, United Water not unlque that respect. There are and the numbers that you gave are average numbers, but if you look at it during certain seasons of the year , for many customers, for example, in the wintertime, myself included , my actual charge that's based on commodi ty is roughly a third of the customer charge.I pay fi ve or $6 for my water and 14.57 for my customer charge in a lot of the bi 11 ing periods.In the summer , obviously, you know , I may pay 14.57 customer charge, but 50 , 60 , $70 in commodi ty.And that I s pretty typical for a lot of customers. But the customer charge for water utilities in general is frequently higher than it is for electric utilities, because water utilities have so much more fixed cost than an electric utility does. Probably Ms. Cooper is the one to ask this question , but do you think the customer understands what goes into that customer charge? 700 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff Most customers don'Most customers , and while we might not get that many formal complaints anymore , most customers say, I don I t know what I get for the 14.57 that I pay every two months.I get a bill and the opportunity to be a customer , but I have no idea what it covers. And that's probably common of most customers. Probably very few really understand what that's intended to cover , In my opinion. Thank you. COMMISSIONER HANSEN:That's all I have. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Further questions? Commissioner Smith. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Sterling, In one of his questions - - at least one of his questions - - Mr. Miller characterized United Water' rate structure as a subsidized rate structure, and you agreed wi th him.What did you mean by a "subsidized rate structure" Well, if I recall the series of questions and the context of those questions , I think it had to do wi th we were talking about the customer charge and whether a higher customer charge could be warranted , and to the extent that you keep a 701 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff customer charge below what your cost of serVlce study says might be justified. Is cost of serVlce study a science? Absolutely not. That yields a correct answer? Absolutely not. I guess my question is who's subsidizing who, and lS that discriminatory under Idaho law? Well , I can't speak to the legal issue of discrimination, but the question as to as far as subsidization, you know -- Could it be in the eyes of the beholder? Well , it's all a matter of degree.You know cost of service studies, while they're not an exact science, they aren I t worthless ei ther. Depending on who does them? Well , it may depend on who does them , but the one that was done in this case I think was very well done, and I do accept the cost of service study in this case and I think - - think conservatively Uni ted Water , based on cost of service could justify their existing customer charge.But, again, customer charges very often are not based on cost of service and for a lot of the reasons that I stated before.They are very unpopular wi th customers; customers don't understand them. Has the Commission ever adopted a policy of 702 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff recovering all fixed costs in fixed rates? , not to my knowledge. Have we even ever suggested that it's a good idea? Not to my knowledge.I think where some of that comes from - - and I think Dr. Peseau quoted some of it - - you know , the American Waterworks Association or other groups might suggest that that's the way to do your rate design , that you should recover fixed costs through a customer charge , but Can reasonable people disagree on what fixed costs should be included in fixed rates? Absolutely. And so the fact that there's disagreement doesn I make the customer charges wrong or unreasonable, does it? No.And, in fact, I guess I would just reiterate that Staff's recommendation to not increase the customer charge is not based at all on Uni ted Water's cost of service study. It's primarily based on Commission policy and past practice, and more specifically for the last two electric rate cases. tried to take a position that was consistent with the Commission I S Decision in Idaho Power and Avista I s last rate cases. What is your position on minimum charges? In general , I would support a minimum charge. Okay.In your Vlew , is the ini tial block 703 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff proposal that was agreed to by the Company and one of the Intervenors in this case actually a form of inverted rates? Yes, but the reason that I hesitate a little that that proposal, that's a very small amount of water that I s included in that proposal. I agree. On page 62 of your testimony, you describe your preferred inverted block rate design that I understand you not proposing, having on the previous page noted your previous rej ection.Have you picked usage levels for your two-block rate design that you prefer? No, we have not.And , agaln , to do that, it' probably not as simple as it may seem , because United Water has probably at least a dozen different meter sizes for their customers and you'd have to establish blocks for each meter So it I S not a meter of establishing only two blocksS l ze . it's a matter of establishing two times 12 or 14 or however many meter sizes they have got, so it I S more complicated than it may sound. I mean , we focus a lot on the residential customers because they seem to be the most visible in a lot of respects.Do you think it's as important for the other meter sizes, which I assume are larger use customers, to have the inverted structure?Do you have any idea whether their seasonal usage varies? 704 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff Well , I think that's one of the primary reasons you might have an inverted block structure is because one of the more common complaints that we get is, particularly from larger customers and there are some larger customers whose usage stays pretty much constant year-round, and they view a summer/winter rate differential as they look at the summer part as a premium but they don't look at the winter part as a discount.So they say,You know , they don I t balance the two. Why should I have to pay more in the summertime when my usage doesn't change at all throughout the year?And for many of those customers an inverted block rate design would address that problem, for many but not all. Assuming that the lower block covered most of their usage.Is that what you're saying? Yes.Yes. So you re a proponent kind of of the large lower block? Well, in general.I would establish a lower block that would accommodate most customers' usage.I f your usage doesn't vary year-round for your meter size , the lower block would - - you I d stay in the lower block most of the time. And is there any reason we I d have to do all of the meter sizes at once if we wanted to try some kind of two-block structure? Yeah , I think you probably would have to , because 705 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff if you didn I , I think then you might not - - the Company might not recover its revenue requirement and there could be lot things that could easily get out whack if you only start messing with just selected number of meter Sl zes. Is that because our forecasts of usage are substantially off , generally? Yes, that I s a part of it.There's a lot of approximation that would be involved in that process as well. So maybe it could be done if you just did a few meter sizes but my recommendation would be to do them all.And, qui te frankly, it wouldn't be that much more difficult to do all of them than it would be to just do a few. Okay.But in your view , we don't have the information to do that now? The Staff certainly doesn'Whether or not United Water has it all immediately available, I don't know. They could certainly collect it in some period of time if they donl t already have it, but it would take a while to do it. What kind of information would need to be collected and over what time period? The types of information that we would need, things like bill frequency analysis,we I d need to know water consumption by meter size,we I d need to know numbers customers in each meter si ze, probably a lot of other things, but those are some of the ones that immediately come to mind. 706 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff Thank you. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Just one question and it's along the same lines: Without monthly billing, Mr. Sterling, does implementing an inverted block rate really send the price signal that it's intended to send to customers? Well , I think it can send an effective prlce signal just like summer/winter rates can.I think where relates to monthly billing though is my recommendation , for example , is if you want to look at other rate designs , we should also look at monthly billing maybe even as a prerequisi te, because whether it I S an inverted block design or a summer/winter rate differential , one of the problems we have in sending a price signal with either rate design is that just gets sent too late for most customers because of the bimonthly billing. Okay.Thank you. So it's a problem no matter what.The bimonthly billing could be a problem no matter what rate design was chosen. All right.Thank you. COMMI S S IONER KJELLANDER:I think we're ready for 707 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Com)Staff redirect. MR. STUTZMAN Thank you , Mr. Cha i rman .Jus t one question. REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. STUTZMAN Mr. Miller was asking you about the Company' proposal to implement a monthly billing program.Would it be sound regulatory policy for the Commission to implement a program based on whether or not the information provided by the Company appears to be "crazy" No. Thank you. MR . S TUT ZMAN :That I S all I have. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay. Thank you , Mr. Sterl ing . (The wi tness was excused. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:And I believe we I ready for the next wi tness MR. STUTZMAN We'll call Carol Cooper. 708 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 STERLING (Di) Staff CAROL COOPER, produced as a wi tness at the instance of the Staff , being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. STUTZMAN Would you please state your name and spell your name for the record? Carol J. Cooper , C- And where are you employed and in what capaci ty? The Idaho Public Utilities Commission as a utilities compliance investigator. Okay.And in that capaci ty, did you prepare and prefile written testimony in this case? I did. Does that consist of approximately ten pages? Yes. Do you have any corrections or changes to your prefiled testimony? No. And are you also sponsorlng exhibits? Yes. And what numbers are those? 709 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (Di) Staff 12 8 , 12 9 , and 13 0 . Okay.If I were to ask you the same questions in your prefiled testimony today, would your answers be the same as prepared in that testimony? Yes. MR . S TUT ZMAN :Mr. Chairman , I'd ask that the prefiled direct testimony of Ms. Cooper be spread on the record as if read , and that Exhibit Nos. 128 through 130 be admitted into the record. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Wi thout obj ection , we'll spread the direct testimony across the record as if read, and admit the associated exhibits. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Ms. Cooper is spread upon the record. 710 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (Di) Staf f Please state your name and business address for the record. My name is Carol J. Cooper.My business address is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho. By whom are you employed and in what capacity? I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission (IPUC) as a Utili ties Compliance Investigator in the Consumer Assistance Section. What is your relevant employment history? I have been employed with the Public Utilities Commission since March 1984 and have been with the Consumer Assistance Section since August 1992. What is the purpose of your testimony in this proceeding? I will address the following consumer issues: (1) forms, bills and notices;(2) customer relations; (3) low income assistance program;(4) proposed miscellaneous service charges;(5) proposed tariff changes; and (6) summary of customer comments filed in this case. CUSTOMER FORMS Have you reviewed customer billings, forms, notices and letters? Yes.I reviewed each document and found the materials to be in compliance with the Utility Customer Relations Rules (IDAPA 31.21.01000 et seq.) and Utility CASE NO. UWI -04- 04/06/05 COOPER , C. STAFF (Di) 711 Customer Information Rules (IDAPA 31.21.02000 et seq. ) . CUSTOMER RELATIONS Please describe how many and what type of complaints and inquiries the Commission has received regarding Uni ted Water Idaho (UWI) Exhibit No. 128 shows a three-year comparison of the customer contacts with the Commission.Customers were primarily concerned about billing and disconnection servlce.High bills were of particular concern to customers.Wi th respect to disconnection of service, I found that there are many reasons why customers do not pay their UWI bills. Are these customers primarily low- income customers? The Consumer Assistance Staff does not requlre that piece of information , so unless a customer voluntarily discloses his or her income to Staff, there is no way to determine if income is a factor in inability to pay the water bills. What are some of the other lssues raised by customers? Rate design issues such as the summer differential in rates and the customer charge were topics of concern.Several customers indicated they would prefer to have a lower customer charge and a higher consumption CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 COOPER , C. STAFF (Di) 712 charge.They also questioned why the customer charge for United Water lS so much higher than for other utility companl e s . Do you agree wi th UWI' s proposal to increase the customer charge by 36.4 percent? I support Staff witness SterlingNo. testimony to keep the existing bi-monthly customer charge for residential customers with a %-inch meter at $14.57. How does UWI' s performance compare to that of other water companies? Exhibit No. 129 shows a three-year comparlson of customer complaints wi th those regulated companies having more than 1000 customers.United Water has a satisfactory ranking among those companles. Based on my review of customer complaints and inquiries, I find the Company s customer relations and the qual i ty of service to be acceptable. Do you believe Uni ted Water provides adequate customer assistance for non-English speaking customers? The Company does not currently provide bills or notices in any language other than English at this time. The Company does have one meter reader fluent in Spanish who assists the customer service representatives when necessary. Should UWI be doing more to assist its non- CASE NO. UWI -W~04-4 04/06/05 COOPER , C. STAFF (Di)713 English speaking customers? In Case No. RUL-04-, the Commission considering what steps, if any, utilities should be taking to accommodate customers whose primary language something other than Engl ish.Therefore, I have no recommendation to make -at this time. Is there an area of customer serVlce that you believe United Water goes above and beyond what is required by the Commission? Al though not required by the PublicYes. Utilities Commission , United Water offers credit adjustments on high bills due to leakage if the leak is on the customer s side of the meter and proof of repair provided. How would a typical customer find out that UWI has such a pol icy? Usually customers recelve a high bill , which results in a call to the Customer Service staff of United Water.A field service person lS sent out to determine whether or not the leak is on the customer s side of the meter.The customer is informed at that time to provide documentation of the repalr,such copy the plumber bi 11 receipts for parts used,let ter stating how the eak was repaired.final check made to insure there is no further leakage and an adj ustment CASE NO. UWI-O4- 04/06/05 COOPER, ' STAFF (Di) 714 calculated.A comparison from similar time periods from preVlous years is used to get an average use.The cus tomer is sent a corrected bill, which is based on average use for the time period in question plus one-half of the additional usage attributable to the leak. Is the process the same if a customer has a sprinkler system leaking? Yes, it is.However, if the customer is on a pressurized irrigation system and the settings are wrong and causing United Water backfeeds, no adjustment is given. The Company believes the pressurized irrigation system wi thin the customer s control, while leakage is usually not. LOW INCOME ASSISTANCE PROGRAM Does UWI disconnect serVlce to residential customers in the winter months? Yes, it does.The restrictions on termination of service to households with children, elderly or infirm (Utility Customer Relations Rule IDAPA 31.21.01306) apply only to residential gas and electric service. According to the statistics received from the Company, during 2002 and 2003 the highest number of disconnections took place in the month of January. 2004, the highest number of disconnections occurred in the month of March. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 COOPER, C. STAFF (Di) 715 Why would the largest number of disconnections take place during the winter months if the bills are usually much lower? Termination is allowed when the bill is two (2) months past due or the bill is $50 or more (IDAPA 31.21.01310) Since UWI bills customers on a bi -monthly basis, each past due bill is subj ect to collection action regardless of the amount owed.A customer might have service disconnected if payment arrangements for high summer usage were spread over more than one billing cycle and the customer failed to pay as agreed.Another factor might be that al though the Company is allowed to disconnect service during the months of December through February United Water typically does not disconnect service around the Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Year s holidays.Once the holidays are over , disconnections resume. Have you reviewed the Stipulation filed by United Water Idaho and Community Action Partnership Association of Idaho (CAPAI) regarding a proposed low- income assist~nce program? Yes, I have.Unfortunately, Staff did not have an opportunity to thoroughly explore the issues raised in that filing.Staff would support a program that encourages conservation and targets low- income customers who are having difficulty paying their bills. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 COOPER, C. STAFF (Di)716 MISCELLANEOUS SERVICE CHARGE What is your position with respect to the proposed increases in Miscellaneous Service Charges outlined in Company wi tness Gradilone ' s Exhibi t No. Schedule 3, page 19? The Company is proposlng increases in charges for reconnection of service, returned checks, and premise visits to collect payment of bills.The Company has not provided any rationale or cost support documentation indicating a need to increase any of these non-recurring charges.It has also listed a new reconnection fee of $80 for reconnections made from 8:01 p.m. to 7:59 a.The currently approved reconnection fee of $30 applies to any reconnection performed outside of normal business hours. Staff does support the increase from $15 to $20 for returned checks, since this is the maximum charge allowed by statute.Other than the returned check charge, however without cost support documentation, I recommend the miscellaneous service charges stay at the existing rates. I also recommend that the $80 after hours reconnection fee from 8:01 p.m. to 7:59 a.m. be denied. Why do you oppose implementing a higher fee for reconnections done in response to customer requests received from 8:01 p.m. to 7:59 a. Staff supports higher after-hours reconnection CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 COOPER , C. (Di) STAFF71 7 fees such as those found in UWI' s existing tariff. However, the Company has provided no cost justification or reason for charging an $80.00 fee for late night/early mornlng reconnect ions.If handling late night/early mornlng reconnection requests pose a problem for United Water, it is not clear what other policy or procedural changes may have been explored to address the perceived problem.Unlike other Idaho utilities that provide service over large, somet imes diff icul t to reach areas, UWI' s servlce area is primarily urban , which would tend to minimize the expense of responding to after-hours calls. Another factor to be considered is the Company s relatively short business hours of 8: 00 a. m. to 4: 30 p. m., which limits customer access and the ability to pay or make payment arrangements.I recommend that the reconnection fee stay at $30 for reconnections performed outside of normal business hours. REVI SED T ARI What comments do you have wi th' respect to UWI's proposed tariff revision? UWI filed a revised verSlon of its tariff with the Commission.Although no Company witness sponsored this document, it includes the Company s proposed changes to its rate schedules as well as its rules and regulations governing the rendering of water service and water main CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 COOPER , C. STAFF (Di)718 extensions.In his testimony, Company wi tness Gradilone refers to several changes made to the tariff.However, changes were made to the Residential, Mul tiple Family Housing, Commercial, Industrial or Municipal Development Water Main Extension Agreement that are not discussed his testimony.Staff notes that the Company is proposing to increase the "Umbrella Excess Liability " coverage required of an Applicant and an Applicant's Contractor from $2,000,000 over primary insurance to $5,000,000.The Company is also proposing to change the provision requlrlng a sixty-day (60) notice for cancellation or material change in coverage to thirty (30) days.Staff Exhibi t No. 130 contains the existing approve~ tariff page (page 1) as well as the proposed tariff page (page 2) .These changes appear to be substant i ve , but the Company has not provided any explanation as to why these changes should be made. Therefore, Staff recommends that these two proposed changes not be approved by the Commission. CUSTOMER COMMENTS Did the Commission recelve any consumer comments regarding the filing of this case? Yes.As of April 1 , 2005, the Commission had received 102 written comments. Please summarlze some of the comments received from customers. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 COOPER , C. STAFF (Di)719 Many of the comments mC?-de .(21) were regarding new growth and questioned whether existing customers are subsidizing new developments.Twenty (20) customers stated they personally were on a fixed income or could not afford such a high increase in rates as requested by United Water. Several others indicated they were concerned about the elderly and low income in the communi ty being able to afford these higher rates due to an already tight budget. There were ten (10) comments against the summer differential in rates and three (3 )obj ecting to such a large customer charge. Does this conclude your direct testimony in this proceeding? Yes, it does. CAS E NO. UW I - W - 04 - 4 04/06/05 COOPER, C. STAFF (Di) 720 l~::, (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Staff Exhibit Nos. 128 through 130, having been premarked for identification , were admitted into evidence. MR. STUTZMAN Ms. Cooper is available for cross. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you.Let's move to Mr. Miller. MR . MI LLER :Just a couple very quick questions. CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. MI LLER : You reviewed Mr. Wyatt's rebuttal testimony in which he discusses your recommendations that had to do with the tariff area? Yes. And based on his rebuttal testimony, are you satisfied that there is not a disagreement between the Company and the Staff on that point? Yes , I did review the records.I t appears that it was the Company I s intention to change the policy; however when they filed the tariffs, the incorrect tariffs were filed. And so based on that, you don I t have an obj ection to them now correcting the tariff? 721 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (X)Staff That I S correct. All right.Very good.I covered wi Mr. Sterling the resul ts of the customer surveys and customer comments in this case, so I won t belabor that wi th you.You do say that on page 3, that based on your review of customer complaints and inquiries, you find the Company I s customer relations and quality of service to be acceptable? Yes. I guess there is probably not a large point of quibbl ing over words , but isn I t the Company's customer relations and quality of service really quite good when compared with other utilities? bel ieve is good. All right. MR.MILLER:That'all had. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you , Mr. Miller. Let's move to Mr. Campbell. MR. CAMPBELL:No questions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Mr. Strickling. MR. STRICKLING:No questions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Eddie. MR. EDDIE:I'll ask one question. 722 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (X) Staf f CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. EDDIE: Ms. Cooper , in general, In your experlence dealing with customers, is it true that customers desire to have more control over the amount of their bills, rather than less control in terms of changing their behavior and thereby changing the amount of their bill? m not sure you - - what you mean by control of their bill.Can you please explain? If they were to improve their or enhance their conservation efforts, their bill amount would go down? Correct. And that I s an attractive feature for most customers? Yes. Thank you. MR. EDDIE:Nothing further. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you. Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:Yes, just a couple, thank you. 723 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (X)Staff CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. PURDY: Ms. Cooper, I would direct you to page 6 of your direct testimony, with the question beginning on line 17. you have that? Yes. Okay.You indicate that you have reviewed the Stipulation entered into between Community Action Partnership and United Water? I have. Is that true? Okay.You also state that , unfortunately, Staff did not have an opportunity to thoroughly review that Stipulation.And I fully accept that statement and this is not in the form of cri ticism , but do you acknowledge that, in fact, the Stipulation was attached to the testimony of Teri Ottens, the direct testimony, prior to the rebuttal deadline? Yes. So it wasn't a matter of Staff not having access to that Stipulation that somehow prevented you from thoroughly reviewing it.Correct? Correct.It was a matter of time. Okay.You do goThat I S fair enough.Thank you. on to say that Staff would support a program that encourages 724 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 COOPER (X) Staff conservation and targets low-income customers. With the understanding that Staff has not thoroughly reviewed the Stipulation , can you tell me, in general terms , what you feel that Well , let's talk about the Uni ted Water Shares proposal that I s contained in the Stipulation.Is that the kind of program - - low- income program - - that you have in mind when you say you would support low-income assistance? Yes, I believe it is , and Staff witness Randy Lobb is prepared to answer the questions regarding the low-income Stipulation. Okay.I appreciate that.Thank you.Earl ier that same page, page 6 , line 5 , you talk about United Water' disconnection of customers for nonpayment of bills? m sorry, what page? Page 6 , line Okay. And you state that when the arrearage is $50 or greater , United Water then can disconnect that customer. Correct? Correct, or two months past due. Right.Are you aware that theOkay.Thank you. United Water Shares program as proposed provides for a benefit of as much as $50 per customer , with the possibility that that amount might be increased in the future? 725 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 COOPER (X) Staff Yes. Wi th that in mind, do you think that this kind of a program might - - might avoid or reduce the amount of disconnections by United Water for nonpayment? I would expect if they had more funds to work with, it could. Okay.And along wi th that reduction in disconnections, you have a reduction in costs for the Company and bad debt write-off.Isn't that true? That usually tracks, yes. Okay.Now , on a somewhat unrelated note, I have previously asked you about the amount of funding wi th respect to the Idaho Power proj ect Share fund.Is that right? Yes. And I represent that in the IPC-03-13 case, which is Idaho Power's last general rate case, Staff witness Marilyn Parker testified that Idaho Power in the year 2002 which I guess is the test year for that case , contributed $25 , 000 to proj ect Share.Is that your recollection of her testimony? Yes, the shareholders did contribute that amount. And that ratepayers contributed roughly $180 000. Is that right? Yes, I believe that's true. All right.With that, I'll wait for Mr. Lobb for 726 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING o. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 COOPER (X)Staff further questions, and I thank you. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you. Are there any questions from members of the Commission?Commissioner Hansen. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Ms.Coope r , Yes. - - when you customers that are having that mean that the type program that Staff encourages is to on page 6, line 23 through 25 say that it targets low-income 12,difficul ty paying their bills, does relieve some of the burden of their water bill? I think what we'd encourage is something like a demand-side management program that would cover like low flow toilets, that type of thing, yes. So it wouldn't have anything to do wi th the commodity usage? I don't know.I don't know what - - what other opt ions we would have to work wi th.We haven't really discussed that. When you say the Staff would support a program such as this, has the Staff come up wi th any suggestions of how a program like this would be funded? 727 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (Com) Staff We haven't di scussed it. Okay.Thank you. COMMISSIONER HANSEN:That I S all. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Ready now for redirect. MR. STUTZMAN I have no questions on redirect. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Cooper. (The wi tness was excused. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:And we are ready now for your next wi tness. MR. STUTZMAN Mr. Chairman , I understand that Mr. Miller would like to call a witness today out of order because he is not available tomorrow , and I don't know how much time that witness will take.We can call another one of our witnesses or accommodate him. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:If you don't have a problem wi th it , we'll go ahead and accommodate Mr. Miller I wi tness, unless there's some obj ection. MR. MI LLER :The Company's rebuttal witness, Mr. Dave Degann , has air travel scheduled for tomorrow mornlng, so if we could call him at this point, it would be of convenience to him. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay, we I 11 do that. 728 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 COOPER (Com) Staf f DAVE DEGANN produced as a rebuttal witness at the instance of United Water, being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. MILLER: Sir , would you state your name and spell your last name for the record? My name is David Degann, D-A double And did you previously have occasion to submit to the Commission written prefiled rebuttal testimony consisting of 13 pages? I have. And are there any additions or corrections that need to be made to your testimony? I have one minor addi t ion. Uh-huh. On page 1 , line 19, I would point out that served as president of the American Society of Pension Actuaries, as well as General Chairman of the Education and Testing Committee. So it would read:And a member and former president of the American Academy of Actuaries. Period, and then:I have served as president of 729 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN (Di -Reb) Uni ted Water the American Society of Pension Actuaries and as General Chairman.I would put those words in. All right.Very good. Thank you. Wi th those addi t ions, if I asked you the questions that are set forth in your written prefiled rebuttal testimony, would your answers be the same as they are there written? They would. Just by way of an additional question or two were you in the hearing room this morning during the testimony of Mr. English? Yes, I was. And Mr. English indicated in response to questions to me that - - from me - - that the primary purpose think he said of FAS 87 is to allow comparison among - - allow comparlsons among utilities.Would you agree wi th that characterization of FAS 87 as a tool? I would not , and in order to understand why, I will need to go back into a little bit of history which unfortunately, I'm old enough to remember. ERISA was enacted in 1976 following some disasters in the pension world - - Studebaker comes to mind and when ERISA was enacted , it required that Company's budget for and fund their pension plans and allowed seven different 730 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 DEGANN (Di-Reb) United Water budgeting methods to pay for those pension plans.Some of those budgeting methods accelerated funding, meaning that the cash contributions went in earlier; some of those budgeting methods deferred funding to a degree , which meant that the cash went in later.But in any event , it allowed seven different budget ing methods.The ERISA is still there and it still allows the same budget ing methods, al though it I S been changed numerous times over the years. In 1985 or so, the accounting profession recogni zed that some of the budget ing methods were not necessarily accruing for pension costs variably over the working lifetimes of the plan participant , and enacted FAS 87 -- and FAS means Financial Accounting Standard; it is an accounting standard - - in order to provide for a consistent method of accruing for benefit costs over the working lifetime of plan participants and in order to not advantage or disadvantage anyone - - oh , sorry - - any one period of time in the stakeholder history so that a stakeholder in the earlier years shouldn't be paying for more than their share and a stakeholder for later years shouldn I t be getting the benefit of the fact that a company paid for more in the early years than in the later years. MR. STUTZMAN:Mr. Chairman , perhaps Staff I s willingness to accommodate the Company had some limit on this and I guess I 1 m going to object to the narrative this witness 731 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 DEGANN (Di-Reb) United Water lS sitting there providing without questions, especially in light of the fact that I'm not sure that the Chair has authorized ini tial direct examination of this wi tness. maybe it I S a technical point , but it seems, to me , we're just listening to a narrative by this witness. MR. MILLER:Perhaps I could ask a question that would bring us to a conclusion on this quickly. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:G i ve it a t ry BY MR. MILLER:Could you come to a quick conclusion on your point that -- Yes. - - FAS 87 is something more than a financial tool to allow comparison between companies? Yes.Well , as I said, it was put in place because ERISA allowed so many methods of budgeting, and therefore, FAS 87 provided the standard for a consistent method to accrue pension costs.As it happens, it became a good comparison and it was a useful method of doing that, but that wasn I t the primary reason why it was enacted. Then just one additional question , or let me ask a couple predicate questions:You are the actual actuary for Uni ted Water? I am , yes. So you do its actuarial calculations? I do. 732 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN (D i - Reb ) United Water And are aware of its current status? Yes, I do.Yes, I am. In your direct testimony, you indicate the possibility that the -- if calculated on an ERISA basis , the required funding for United might be significantly higher in immediate future years? Yes. Do you have any other information for the Commission bearing on that topic? I do.In the normal course of our work , as we do for most companies, we do some forecasting and budgeting. would expect that the cash cost for the current year will increase to about $630 000 and the cash cost for 2006 will increase to about $1.8 million from the current amounts shown in the testimony. They would increase by that amount? To those amounts. All right.From the levels that are shown in your test imony? Yes , 160 odd two to 633 to 1.8 million. So if the Commission did approve a change to an ERISA method, it could be buying substantial increases in amounts? Those are our best guesses of the forecasts based on current information and data. 733 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN (Di-Reb) Uni ted Water All right. MR. MILLER:Thank you, Mr. Cha i rman , Counse 1 With that, Mr. Degann is available for cross-examination. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Let's begin with the attorneys representing Staff. MR. MILLER:I guess, Mr. Chairman , I' neglected the formality of asking that his testimony be spread on the record as if read. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Yes, you did.So we will spread the testimony across the record as if read, and there are no exhibits associated with that testimony, so wi thout obj ection , that will be done. (The following prefiled rebuttal testimony of Mr. Degann is spread upon the record. 734 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578 , BOI SE , ID 83701 DEGANN (Di - Reb) Uni ted Water Please state your name and business address. My name is David Degann. My business address is 125 Chubb Avenue, Lyndhurst, New Jersey 07071. Please state the purpose of your testimony in this case. I was requested by United Water Idaho to review and comment on the testimony of Staff Witness English regarding the appropriate ratemaking allowance for pension cost. Please state your qualifications. I serve as the Enrolled Actuary under ERISA for the United Water Plans and offer the advantage of almost two decades of experience in working specifically with these Plans. I have provided expert witness testimony for regulated entities related to this area of specialty of pension actuarial issues. I am Cum Laude graduate of the College of Insurance, with a bachelor of Business Administration. I hold a Master of Business Administration from Pace University, with a concentration in Taxation. I am an Enrolled Actuary (#25) and a Fellow in the American Society of Pension Actuaries and the Conference of Consulting Actuaries and a member of the American Academy of Actuaries. I have served as a General Chairman American Society of Pension Actuaries Education & Examination Committee, and as a member of the Joint Board for the Enrollment of Actuaries Advisory Committee on Testing and Education. I am an Executive Vice President of Aon Consulting Group. My CUlTent 735 Degann, Re United Water Idaho Inc. responsibilities are to manage and supervise all actuarial and benefit consulting in the Northeast Region, and for Aon s Merger & Acquisition Practice. As the actuary for United Water, my responsibilities are to accurately measure the liabilities and costs of the Company s benefit programs, and to advise the Company of appropriate expense, accrual or funding rates so that such costs and liabilities are accounted for and so that assets are accumulated by a rational method. I bring more than 40 years of actuarial and benefits plan consulting experience. In my present position, I am responsible for actuarial and benefit consulting for some of the largest and most complex corporate organizations in the United States, such as Crown Cork & Seal Company, Inc., Bethlehem Steel Corporation and Cathay Pacific Airways, Ltd. Please state your understanding of Staff Witness English's testimony and recommendations. Mr. English recommends that the Company s recoverable pension expense be determined by reference to its ERISA contribution, rather than its actuariall y determined pension cost under F AS 87. This reduces the 2004 recoverable cost from $637 046 as claimed by the Company to $162,454 as recommended by Staff (Exhibit 108). This cash methodology has some serious flaws as I will demonstrate in 736 Degann, Re 2 United Water Idaho Inc. more detail below. As I read his testimony, he bases his recommendation on several points: 1. The F AS cost is "artificial" and has "no connection to real world values . (p. 20) 2. The sizable revenue increase requested justifies a reduction in pension cost. (p. 21) 3. Required plan funding under ERISA will not cause future costs to rise dramatically. (p. 24) 4. "There is growing concern among accounting professionals regarding the use of F AS 87 and the potential for manipulation of financial statements " (p. 16) It is my professional opinion that Staff's reliance on these points inappropriate, and that established accounting and regulatory principles require the use of F AS 87 to detennine recoverable pension cost. Please explain. Let me address each of the flaws in Mr. English's testimony: F AS 87 expense results are, in fact, a direct function of "real-world" plan financials. F AS 87' s entire methodology is geared to developing a realistic, accurate measure of the costs of a year s worth of pension accrual. F AS 87 expense is calculated by recognizing the value of plan assets at market value, reflecting the current economic conditions in the marketplace and explicitly recognizing the benefit accruals earned in pensions for participants each year. One example of how much F AS 87 is tied to actual "real 737 Degann, Re 3 United Water Idaho Inc. world" conditions relates to the fact that the discount rate selected must be the rate "at which the pension benefits could be effectively settled".looking at current prices of annuity contracts... and rates of return on high-qualify fixed income investments currently available (F AS 87, paragraph 44- Italics added for emphasis) Mr. English suggested that the fact that pension expense increased means that the F AS 87 method should be abandoned and another (cash funding) be applied. Selecting a cost method based upon how high or low costs are in a given year is not an appropriate decision process , particularly for pension costs which rely upon cost over many years (usually 20 to 30) not a given year. - If rate recovery were based upon selecting the minimum cost of the various methods without any regard to the actual fundamentals of continuing program costs, rate recovery would be insufficient to maintain the program. The fact that program costs increased merely reflects what has actually occurred in the real world with respect to the program liabilities growing and the value of plan assets in today s market underperforming. Please see the table below. Contrary to Mr. English's suggestions, the required ERISA Minimum Funding contributions are expected to dramatically increase for these particular qualified pension plans, given their funded history, current asset values and current liability levels. As the plan actuary, 1 have advised United Water that the cash contribution 738 Degann, Re 4 United Water Idaho Inc. requirements for its defined benefit plans will increase dramatically to address the significant unfunded status of these plans. Below we show the deficit position of both plans as of 1/1/05: UW Idaho UW Idaho Total Non-Bargaining Bargaining Current Liability for ERISA $6,162 000 053 000 $11 215 000 Funding at 1/1/05 Assets at Market Value at 1/1/05 044 000 $3,711 000 755 000 Funded Status $(2 118 000)342 000)(3,460 000) Funding Ratio 66%73%69% Because of the pension plan s funded status with plan assets covering only 690/0 of liabilities, the ERISA Minimum contributions will require that United Water contribute significantly higher amounts to bolster the funded position. When plans fail to retain a satisfactory funded position, the ERISA Minimum contribution adds a Deficit Reduction Contribution, which accelerates contributions and requires an employer to make cash contributions that payoff the unfunded obligations in 3 to 5 years. Contrary to Mr. English's testimony, FAS 87 is a stable accounting measure which has now been in effect for over 20 years in the U.S. and is serving as a model in many respects for international standards. F AS 87 has served to provide plan sponsors a consistent method of computing an annual expense amount, separate and distinct from a plan s generall y voluntary and variable funding deposits to the plan. The annual expense amount was defined to reflect accrual accounting for pension plans, making sure that the cost 739 Degann, Re 5 United Water Idaho Inc. of pension benefits are expensed during the time earned - supporting a matching principle of whatever a company is promising in benefits to be charged against company revenue at that time. I believe that Mr. English is referring to the highly publicized recent debates revolving around the appropriate actuarial assumptions, rather than any issues related to the fundamentals of F 87 expense. Further, such debates on assumptions impact both funding and expense. Selecting appropriate actuarial assumptions has been a focus largely because of turbulent economic times. In general virtually all plan sponsors, including United Water, have made adjustments to the expected long-term yield on plan assets to reflect the lower investment yields. Finally, with reduced inflation levels, the discount rate used to determine program liabilities has been dramatically reduced (resulting in increased liabilities). Why is FAS 87 the proper approach in setting rates? FAS 87 is.the proper approach for rate recovery. Only FAS 87 provides accurate accrual accounting which produces equitable results for generations of customers, and also offers a consistent stable methodology with no discretion from a company on how it is determined. Below we describe the major advantages that distinguishes F AS 87 as the proper approach for rate setting: 740 Degann, Re 6 United Water Idaho Inc. ~ A voids volatility in expense from year to year ~ A voids underfunding and ensures as much as possible that plan assets will be sufficient to meet retiree needs over the long term Matches costs with benefits under accrual basis, Provides a stable F AS methodology Is consistent across companies Follows generally accepted regulatory practice Follows the recommended past decisions of the PUC in the last case when F AS pension income REDUCED expense Follows the current recommended basis of the PUC related to FAS 106 costs, which mirror the same principles as under F AS 87 I discuss each of the above briefly below: Avoids volatility in expense from year to year. FAS 87 expense methods include defined amortizations of actuarial gains/losses making such method less volatile from year to year. Avoids underfunding. In the event the Commission were to modify its past decisions to move to a cash contribution basis, United Water would be faced with deferred recognition of expense/cost in rates and in fact may not have proper financial reserves to properly make contributions to the pension plan. In other words, without accrual recognition of program costs, when the cash requirements are demanded, United Water may not have the financial ability to pay such contributions as ERISA demands. If United Water cannot afford to pay the contributions, then the programs are ultimately remanded to the PBGC for insufficient funding. Certainly, I do not recommend that any situation put such risks on a long-standing program designed to address fundamental retirement security needs. 741 Degann, Re 7 United Water Idaho Inc. Matches costs with benefits under accrual basis. Accrual accounting under F AS 87 aligns program costs with the proper generation of customers in the rates. By using FAS 87 expense/(income) methods, the costs associated with active employees working to deliver water services to customers in each year are recognized during that year - not assigned to another year. Accrual accounting has long been recognized as the prefelTed method of charging back the costs of pensions. "Accrual accounting goes beyond cash transaction to provide infonnation about assets , liabilities, and earnings" (FASB 87 Introductory Comments). The concept is that while an employee is actively working and delivering services to the company and customers, any defelTed compensation must be recognized against company books during active employment. Waiting to recognize benefits promised - and earned - until retirement or until the company is required to make cash contributions to the fund results in inequitable and volatile year-by- year results. If the PUC were to apply a method that does not follow accrual accounting, there is a mismatch of revenues and expenses, and the wrong generation of customers winds up paying for costs of other customers. Accrual accounting under F AS 87 offers an equitable method that follows the PUC guiding principles of matching revenue and expenses. 742 Degann, Re 8 United Water Idaho Inc. Provides a stable F AS methodology. Unlike cash funding requirements which have been modified numerous times, the specific requirements of F AS 87 have been retained virtually unchanged since 1985. That' 20 years of stability and reliability. On the pension cash funding side we see a much different picture in the past and going forward, with multiple changes to the methods of computation. In fact, in 2005 , the Administration has proposed funding legislation (if passed, to be effective in 2006) which will be the most sweeping fundamental change since ERISA's passage. The Administration s funding requirements are intended to force many plan sponsors to contribute far more than current Minimum funding requirements. On the FASB side, there are no plans for any changes - merely a continuation of the 20 years of stability we have seen already. Is consistent across companies. F AS 87 is the consistent US GAAP methodology for recognizing the annual costs of pension benefits. All companies in the US follow this method. Follows generally accepted regulatory practice. Follows the recommended past decisions of the PUC in the last case when FAS pension income REDUCED expense. Follows the current recommended basis of the PUC related to F 106 costs, which mirror the same principles as under F AS 87. We note that the commission has endorsed F AS 87 in all prior years, and 743 Degann, Re 9 United Water Idaho Inc. currently continues to apply accrual expense accounting for FAS 106 purposes for rate recovery. Do you have experience with the regulatory treatment of this cost for other clients in other jurisdictions? Based upon Aon Consulting s experience with regulated utility companies, the general practice adhered to applies annual expense under F AS 87 for pensions and F AS 106 for retiree medical benefits to detennine: Annual expense recognized for purposes of computing an organization s P&L (Profit & Loss), and also for consistency; Annual rating costs recognized for purposes of passing on a company s pension costs to the consumer. In this way, complete consistency exists between: What a company is required to report as annual expense/(income) for pension benefits; and What customers pay for in rates. This one-to-one correlation ensures that as a company records pension expense or (income), the same amount is reflected in rates. If cash funding or another approach were employed a company s rating basis could be dramatically different than what is recorded each year in its books. Below are specific cases where the Regulatory Commission ruled that annual expense under FAS 87 is the required rate basis: 744 Degann, Re 10 United Water Idaho Inc. Since 1995, the Board of Public Utilities of the State of New Jersey has based its rating costs on the pro forma pension expense/(credit) as computed by the pension actuary each year. Specifically, the Commission applied a "pay-as-you- expense approach for rate recovery purposes. The amount accrued as an expense in determining the organization financial status is the same amount applied in rate recovery. Since 1992, the Public Service Commission of the State of New York has also required the application of F AS 87 pension expense/(income), with only a review of the key assumptions applied in such computation. In your opinion, what would be the result if the Commission follows the Staff recommendation of applying ERISA Minimum Cash Contributions instead of F AS 87? First, if no rate recovery would be available until cash ERISA contributions were required, United Water Idaho would still be required by GAAP to record the FAS expense on its books and revenues with no matching rate recovery amount. Then, at the time that cash contributions would be required, it is quite possible that the Company will not have the financial reserves and strength to cover such contributions, because insufficient rate recovery was provided in the past. Essentially, providing rate recovery at a fraction of the program costs puts the Company in a compromised financial position 745 Degann , Re 11 United Water Idaho Inc. most likely forcing the Company to reduce and/or eliminate future pension plan benefits in entirety for active employees. By deferring the costs of benefits promised (essentially by insisting on an interest free loan with balloon payments at the end), the PUC is gambling with the retirement security of active long-service employees. In fact, this is precisely the situation that FAS 87 was trying to correct numerous companies opting to recognize only "pay-as-you-" cash costs instead of matching accrual costs with revenue. It was all too common for companies to make benefits promises, book no program costs and later renege on promises by eliminating benefits when the cash costs were too great a burden. Essentially, a decision to apply ERISA Minimum Cash Contributions instead of F AS 87 may force a decision by the Company to reduce or eliminate the promised pension benefits for United Water Idaho active employees retiring in the future. Second, this approach has equally serious long-term impacts on the Company s customers , as was the case when ERISA existed in 1974 prior to the accounting profession issuing the FAS 87 standard in 1985. Without the discipline and requirements of F AS 87, companies had too much discretion under ERISA to defer the costs. For regulated companies, the ERISA approach forces future customers to pay for past costs. Third, ERISA Minimum rules require that pension deficits be funded in a very short time (3 to 5 years), much akin to a balloon loan 746 Degann, Re 12 United Water Idaho Inc. structure. This makes the problem of deferring what is being spent today much more severe. There is never any guarantee that a Company can later pay for amounts spent today, and chances of payment later are riskier when the payments are so large that are being deferred. United Water Idaho s current pension plans have plan assets insufficient to cover existing benefits promised by some $3.5 million. This suggests cash funding of millions of dollars each year, when the time comes for the payments. As the plan actuary, I expect such cash contributions to be required in the next 3 to 5 years, with the ERISA Minimum Contribution requirements already applying for the bargained plan in 2003 and 2004, with future cash contributions forecasted to dramatically accelerate. If no rate recovery is provided using the traditional F AS 87 accrual method, the Company will not have proper financial reserves to make these payments. Only FAS 87 expense accrual adequately prepares the Company to be able to make these cash contributions. Does this conclude your testimony? Yes. 747 Degann, Re 13 United Water Idaho Inc. (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:And we'll move now to cross. MR. WALKER:Thank you , Mr. Cha i rman . CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. WALKER: Isn't it true that FAS 87 is, regardless of what's been said , it's strictly a financial reporting tool for financial reporting purposes, is it not? It is - - it is a method for recognizing the cost of employee benefits in the Company's books on a consistent method over the working lifetime of the plan. Is there anything in the language of FAS 87 that mentions regulatory recovery? I doubt it.I don t think so. And referring to your table on page 5 of your testimony where you illustrate the funded status of the plans -- Yes. - - isn I t it true that the market value of the assets you included in your table does not include any receivables due to the plans that were incurred for the 2004 748 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN (X-Reb) United Water plan years? I believe that that table probably does reflect receivables. Okay.Isn t it true that it I s possible for the FAS 87 expense to be a negative amount? It is possible for FAS 87 - - for FAS 87 to generate pension lncome , yes, that is correct. And yet it would be impossible for the Company to contribute a negative amount of cash into the plan.Isn t that correct? Tha t is correct. On page 7 of your testimony, line 16, you testify that FAS 87 expense avoids volatility from year to year. tha t correct? It tries -- it attempts to avoid volatility, yes. But isn't it true that the ERISA minimum contribution for these plans has remained relatively unchanged? That is true because During the past five years? That is true because the plans have been overfunded, and when you I re overfunded , you don t make contribut ions. While at the same time, the FAS expense has varied by nearly a million dollars at the Idaho level , has it 749 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN (X - Reb) United Water not? It has varied. And just so we're clear , we re talking about the same time period where ERISA stayed relatively stable and the FAS varied by over a million dollars? Because the plans were overfunded and no contributions could have been made. And isn't it true that you also testify on page 7, line 18, that FAS 87 avoids underfunding? Well , I think the bet ter word would be underaccruing" is probably the better word. Q .Is that what your testimony says? I t says underfunding . " Isn I t it true that FAS 87 doesn't address the amount of cash contributions that the Company makes; it only addresses the amount of expenses the Company records on the books? FAS 87 deals with the cash in the plan, so by that nature, it addresses cash. Okay.So isn't it true that even if the Company were to recover the FAS 87 expense in rates and it still contributed the ERISA minimum contribution to the plan , this would have no bearing on the underfunded status of the plan? I m sorry, could you say that again?It was a it tIe bi t too long for me. 750 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN (X - Reb ) United Water Isn't it true that if the Company were to recover the FAS 87 expense in rates Yes. - - and it still contributed the ERISA mlnlmum contribution to the plan , then this would have no bearing on the underfunded status of the plan? The Company would have to contribute its ERISA minimum , period, or change - - or change its plan. When was the last time United Water contributed more than the ERISA minimum contribution? I don I t ever recall that it has contributed more than the -- well , no , it may have contributed more in 2003 , I don't recall. MR . WALKER:Nothing further, Mr. Chairman. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you. Let's move to Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:No questions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Eddie. MR. EDDIE:No quest ions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Strickling. MR. STRI CKLING :No quest ions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Campbell. MR . CAMPBELL:I don't dare. COMMI S S IONER KJELLANDER:Are there questions from members of the Commission? 751 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 DEGANN (X - Reb ) Uni ted Water COMMISSIONER HANSEN:I have none. COMMISSIONER SMITH:I guess I'll be brave. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER SMITH: In your answer to some additional questions from Mr. Miller , you talked about the exposure of costs rising in the near future? Yes. What drives those kinds of increases? Several things.The - - I would say that there are two drivers and one - - two resul ts in one driver.The resul ts are that the asset base has suffered some losses against its actuarial assumptions in the last few years. This asset base is the The cash in the plan. Cash in the plan.Okay. Cash in the plan. As you probably recall , the markets were very, very strong through 2000 and for the year 2000.The pI an was thus overfunded , and because it was overfunded, the ERISA requirements not only didn t require but didn t even permit contributions to be made.When the market changed, assets went down , and therefore , that particular lssue changed. 752 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 DEGANN ( Com - Reb ) United Water The second was that the interest rates that the government requlres us to use for ERISA funding have declined as well because the interest rates and bond rates have decl ined.So you have a combination of declining interest rates which increase the iabili ties , declining assets which decrease the assets against those liabilities, and the requirement therefore to make up the difference. The volatili ty, however , comes from the fact that the government requires that these plans when they become underfunded be funded on a very fast basis, so they install what is called this item called a deficit reduction contribution.They require that the deficit that's generated, having come from these two items, be funded very quickly over a period of between three and five years.FAS doesn't require that; it's a different method.That I s where that volatility. So the driver is the government.The issues are the decline in the interest rates and the decline in asset , in the market val ue of the assets. Thank you. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Ready for redirect. MR. MILLER:No redirect. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay. Thank you, and we appreciate your testimony today. THE WITNESS:Thank you. 753 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING BOX 578,BOI SE 83701 DEGANN ( Com - Reb ) Uni ted Water MR . MI LLER :And may the witness be excused? COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Yes , without objection. (The wi tness was excused. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:I believe we I 11 return now to Staff , and I believe Staff has at least one more wi tness.Is that correct? MR. STUTZMAN We actually have three more , but we can probably get one more done today. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Let's try it. MR. STUTZMAN Okay.We will call Carolee Hall to the stand , please. CAROLEE HALL, produced as a witness at the instance of the Staff, being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. STUTZMAN Would you please state your name and spell your last name for the record? Carolee Hall , H- And where are you employed? m employed with the Idaho Public Utilities Commission. 754 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 Hall (Di)Staff In what capacity? m a telecom analyst. And did you prepare and prefile written testimony in this case? Yes , I did. And does that consist of approximately page s Yes, it does. Do you have any correct ions or changes to make to your prefiled testimony? not. were to ask you the questions that are contained in your prefiled testimony today, would your answers be the same? Yes , they would. Do you have any exhibits as part of your testimony? Yes, I do, Exhibits 117 through 119. Do you have any changes or correct ions to your exhibi ts? No, I do not. Okay. MR. STUTZMAN Mr. Chairman, I I d ask that the prefiled direct testimony of Ms. Hall be spread upon the record as if read , and Exhibi ts Nos. 118 - - excuse me - - 11 7 through 755 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 Hall (Di)Staff 119 be admitted in the record. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Thank you.Wi thout obj ection , we I 11 spread the testimony across the record as read, and admit the associated Exhibits 117 , 118, and 119. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Ms. Hall is spread upon the record. 756 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 Hall (Di)Staff Please state your name and business address. My name is Carolee Hall and my business address 472 West Washington, Boise, Idaho 83702. By whom are you employed and in what capaci ty? I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission as a Telecommunications Analyst. Please describe your work experience and educa t ional background. I have been with the Commission Slnce April 1997. I have completed a Regulatory Studies program offered through NARUC at Michigan State University.I have al attended National Exchange Carrier Association (NECA) training seSSlons where federal issues associated with the changing telecommunications industries were topics of discussion. In October 2004 I completed an advanced Utilities Finance and Accounting seminar for Financial Professionals in New York.Seminar instruction was provided by the Financial Accounting Institute and covered various fields of study including Corporate accounting and auditing, taxation, management and cost of capital. Prior to coming to work for the Commission, I worked for two years as a Financial Manager for a competitive long distance provider.I graduated from Boise State University in 1993 with a B.A. in Finance. CASE NO. UWI-04-4 04/06/05 757 HALL, C (Di) STAFF . 15 22 ' What is the purpose of your testimony in this proceeding? The purpose of my testimony is to present the Staff's recommendations for the overall cost of capi tal for United Water Idaho to be used in calculating the revenue requirement for this case.I will specifically address the overall capi tal structure wi th the cost of capi tal for debt, minori ty interest (preferred stock), and return on common equity as it pertains to the overall rate of return. Describe your testimony regarding the return on equi ty? My testimony will focus primarily on the return on equi ty portion in general as it pertains to the capi tal structure of the Company.Staff. wi tness Terri Carlock will be the primary cost of capi tal wi tness and address this issue in her testimony. Please summarize the parenti subsidiary relationship for United Water Idaho. Uni ted Water Idaho s common stock is not traded. It is a wholly owned subsidiary of United Waterworks, Inc., which is owned by Uni ted Water Resources Inc., which all are ultimately owned by Suez Lyonnaise des Eaux , a French Corporation that holds many water companies and other business endeavors , throughout the world. CASE NO. UWI -04- 04/06/05 758 HALL, C (Di) STAFF OVERVIEW OF CAPITAL STRUCTURE AND RECOMMENDATIONS Will you please briefly summarlze your recommendations? Staff is recommending a cost of debt of 6.45% and a cost of Minority Interest (Preferred Stock) of 5%.Staff has used, and recommends, a point estimate of 10% for return on common equi ty.The recommended overall weighted cost of capital of 8.10% is used to calculate the revenue requirement.Please see Staff Exhibit No. 117. How many Exhibits will you be sponsoring with your testimony? I have three Exhibits identified as Exhibit Nos. 117 through 119. Have you reviewed the testimony and exhibits of United Water s witness Ms. Pauline Ahern with AUS Consul tants? Yes I have. Please identify the relative time period used in your analysis. The historical test year used in this case August 1, 2003 - July 31, 2004. My testimony uses December 31, 2004 for the capital structure with proformed debt changes so current cost rates reflect financing costs that are relevant when rates are established in this case. Do you have any adj ustments to the December 31 CASE NO. UWI-O4- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF759 2004 data? Yes.On March 22, 2005, the Company notified Staff of two recent financial activities it was making to avoid interest rate creep. First, the Company repaid a $10 million medium term note that was to mature in February 2025.This note had a stated interest rate of 8.84%.The second event was to refinance an Idaho Water Resource tax- exempt revenue bond instrument that had an outstanding balance of $19 975,000 and a maturity date of October 2024. By refinancing this debt instrument, the Company reduced the interest rate from 6.4% to 4.7% resulting in a pre-tax savings to the total Company of approximately $280,000. using the December 31 , 2004 capital structure with the two stated adj ustments, Staff is able to capture these known and measurable changes for ratemaking purposes.These activities also improved the Company s debt-to-equity ratio from 55.10% debt and 44.9% equity to 53.41% debt and 46.59% equi ty.In doing this, the Company was able to bring its overall debt-to-equity ratio closer in line to the composite statistics for water utili ties listed in Value Line. Overall, this is beneficial to the Company and for Idaho customers as it will help maintain credit ratings. Would you please recap the capi tal structure of the Company reflecting the December 31, 2004 numbers? Yes.Again Staff is proposing an overall rate of CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 HALL, C (Di) STAFF760 return on rate base of 8.10% and a Return on Common Equity 0 f 1 0 % a s ref 1 e c t e d in Exh bit No. 11 7 . Is the proposed capital structure consistent with the Company s current credit rating? This capi tal structure allows the Company toYes. fund its required capital expenditures 'while increasing the equity ratio contributing to maintaining credit ratios that support the cont inuance of its current \ A' credi t rating. How does maintenance of a strong credit rating benefit customers? The credi t rating gl ven to a company has a direct impact on the cost that a company will lncur to obtain capi tal necessary to support its current and future operating needs.A strong credit rating directly benefits customers by reducing immediate and future borrowing costs related to the financing needed to support regulatory operat ions. , . Are there other benefits? During periods of capi tal marketYes. disruptions, a company wi th a higher credi t rating has an easier time accessing capital for various proj ects.This is not necessarily the case with lower rated companles, which often find themselves unable to obtain capi tal or, incurring increased costs associated with financing and/or collateral requirements.Such access to capi tal provides companies CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF761 with more alternatives when attempting to meet current and future capi tal proj ects to meet consumer demand. DEBT Financing Calculations How did the Company calculate the embedded debt cost? As shown in Exhibi t No. 118, the Company took the face value of the debt issuance (Column 4 "outstanding amount") and subtracted the unamortized net discount, premium and expense in Column This calculation resulted in the current net proceeds value in col umn 6. The second step in its calculations was to take the face value again in Column 4 and multiply it by ~he stated interest rate of the issuance in Col umn 7 resul ting in the annual interest expense in Column The annual interest expense was then added to Col umn 9 (Amort i za t ion of net di scount premium and expenses) resul t ing in an annual cost number in Column 10. The third and final step in the Company s embedded debt calculation was to take the annual interest and amortization costs (Column 10) divided by the Net Proceeds ( Co 1 umn 6) By doing this, the Company has reflected the issue costs in the unamortized cost figures and in the annual amortization.Staff believes that the Company has not reflected the discounting properly, thereby inflating CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF76~ the embedded cost rate and the overall long-term debt cost. How did you calculate the Company s cost of long- term debt? Also shown in Exhibit No. 118 I used the data provided by the Company to calculate the cost of debt for Uni ted Water.In order to calculate the long-term debt cost (the Company refers to this number as the embedded cost rate In Column 11) the annual cost of debt (column 10) comprised of the annual interest expense (column 8) pI us the Amortization of Net Discount Premium and Expense (Column were used.I took the Company s annual cost of debt (Column 10) and divided that by the amount of debt outstanding (Column 4) This accurately reflects the discounting of issuance costs to properly allow the Company to recover rates the annual interest cost and the annual amortization of issuance costs. Please summarize the differences between your calculations and those of the Company As mentioned earlier, in my calculations I used the annual interest and amortization costs (Column 10) divided by the face value or outstanding amount (Column 4) Please refer to Staff Exhibit No. 118.Given these calculations, a proper embedded cost rate of 6.45% was derived.The Company calculated its embedded cost rate to be 6.90% after it made its adjustments to debt previously CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF763 discussed.The Company s calculation differs from Staff' because the annual cost is divided by the unamortized net proceeds (col umn 6) In other cases before the Commission , the Staff' proposed debt cost calculation has been utilized.Another method also accepted by the Commission reflects embedded cost of debt rate using the net proceeds at the time issue but the interest cost only, not the interest plus amortization costs , as the numerator used to reflect the annual cost when calculating the embedded cost of debt rate. For calculating the cost of debt, did you use Idaho specific numbers or the consolidated numbers provided by the Company? I ran various scenarlO analyses for calculating the cost of debt and capi tal structure.It is critical to assure that Idaho customers receive the benefit of the Department of Water Resource Revenue bonds in Idaho.Staff determined that by using the consolidated numbers provided by the Company, Idaho customers continue to receive this benefit with the Company-wide sponsored debt and capital structure. MINORITY INTEREST (PREFERRED STOCK) Did you have any adjustments to the Company costs for its minority interest (preferred) stock? No, the minori ty interest has not changed from the CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 764 HALL, C (Di) STAFF previously approved rate and is reasonable. COMMON EQUITY What legal standards have been established for determining a fair and reasonable rate of return for the Company? The legal test of a fair rate of return for a utility company was established in the Bluefield Water Works decision of the Uni ted States Supreme Court and is repeated specifically in the Hope Natural Gas case. In Bluef ield Water Works and Improvement Co. V West Virginia Public Service Commission , 262 U. S. 679, 692 43S.Ct.675,67 L.Ed. 1176(1923), the Supreme Court stated: A public utility is entitled to such rates as will permit it to earn a return on the value of the property which it employs for the convenience of the public equal to that generally being made at the same time and in the same general part of the country on investments in other business undertakingswhich are attended by corresponding risks and uncertainties; but it has no consti tutional right to profits such as are realized or anticipated in highly profitable enterprises or speculative ventures. The return should be reasonably sufficient to assure confidence in the financial soundness of the utility andshould be adequate, under efficient and economical management, to maintain and support its credit and enable it to raise the money necessary for the proper discharge of its public duties. A rate of return may be reasonable at one time and become too high or too low by changes affecting opportunities for investment, the money market and businessconditions generally. The Court stated in FPC v Hope Natural Gas Company CASE NO. UWI-04-4 04/06/05 HALL, C (Di) STAFF765 320 U.S. 591 , 603, 64 S.CT. 281, 88 L.Ed.333 (1944) From the investor or Company point of view it is important that there be enough revenue not -only for operating expenses but also for the capi tal costs of the business. These include service on the debt and dividends on the stock. By that standard the return to the equi ty owner should be commensurate with returns on investments in other enterpriseshaving corresponding ri sks Tha t return moreover , should be sufficient to assure confidence in the financial integrity of theenterprise, so as to maintain its credi t andto attract capital. (Citations omitted. The Supreme Court decisions in Bluefield Water Works and Hope Natural Gas have been affirmed in In Permian Basin Area Rate Case, 390 , U. S. 747 , 88 S. Ct 1344 20 L.Ed 2d 312 (1968) and Duquesne Light Co. V. Barasch, 488 s. 299, 109 S. Ct. 609, 102 L. Ed.2d.646 (1989); Hayden Pines Water Company v. IPUC, 122 ID 356, 834 P. 2d 873 (1992) As a resul t of these Uni ted States and Idaho Supreme Court decisions , three standards have evolved for determining a fair and reasonable rate of return:(1) the Financial Integrity or Credit Maintenance Standard;(2) the Capital Attraction Standard; and,(3) the Comparable Earnings Standard.If the Comparable Earnings Standard met, the Financial Integri ty or Credi t Maintenance Standard and the Capital Attraction Standard will also be met, as they are an integral part of the Comparabl e Earnings Standard. CAS E NO. UW I - W - 04 - 4 04/06/05 HALL, C (Di) STAFF766 Did Staff consider these standards in its analysis and recommendations? Yes.These standards were considered in all of Staff's return analysis upon which its recommendations are based. It is also noteworthy to recognize that the fair rate of return that allows the utility Company to maintain its financial integrity and to attract capital is established assuming efficient and economic management, as specified by the Supreme Court in Bluefield Water Works. Please define the term "cost of common equity capital" and provide an overVlew of the process to determine this cost. The cost of common equi ty, or equi ty capi tal , is the profit that investors expect to receive.Equi ty investors expect a return on their capital commensurate with the risks they take and consistent with returns that might be available from other similar investments.This profit or return is paid to shareholders as dividends or retained the Company to grow the equity investment and future returns.Unlike returns from debt and preferred stocks, however, the equity return is not directly observable in advance and therefore , it must be calculated or inferred from capi tal market data and trading acti vi ty. Would you please provide a narrative example to illustrate the cost of equity? CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF767 A very simplified example would be that I purchase a stock for $30 per share.If the stock's expected dividend during the year is $1.00, the expected dividend yield is percent ($1.00 / $30 = 3 percent) Now , let's assume that the stock (being extremely stable) lncreases in value to $31.50 one year after purchase.I have then gained another 5 percent in the expected total rate of return ($1.5 / $30.00 = 5 percent) As a resul t of buying my stock at $30 per share, I should expect a total return of 8 percent: percent dividend yield and 5 percent appreciation. Therefore, my total expected rate of return at 8 percent is the appropriate measure of the cost of equi ty capi tal because it is this rate of return that caused me to commi t the $30 of equity capi tal in the first place.Should the stock be riskier, I would have required a much higher return to be compensated for taking on that risk. Has Staff analyzed the cost of equity and established a range for United Water Idaho? Yes, using the three Companies in Value Line, I calculated a water utilities industry cost of equity of 10% and recommend that this rate be authorized for United Water Idaho.Staff witness Terri Carlock will be providing testimony with respect to the cost of equity and she will support the equity ranges around the 10% point. In your opinion , do you believe that the 10% CASE NO. UWI-W-04- 04/06/05 768 HALL, C (Di) STAFF Return on Equity is in line with the composite Value Line returns for the industry? According to Value Line s composi teYes. statistics for water utilities industry (October, 2004 and January 2005) the return on shareholder s equity and common e qu i t Y for 2 0 04 and 2 0 0 5 was 9. 5 % .For the years of 2007 - 2009 it is projected to be at 10%. Did you review any recent Idaho rate cases where the Commission established the return on equi ty rate? The Idaho Commission recently authorizedYes. Avista Utilities and Idaho Power Company rates of 10.4% and 10.25% respectively. Will a 10% return on equity provide the Company the opportunity to maintain its current bond ratings and borrowing 'ability in the capital markets? Yes, Staff bel ieves it will.According to Value Line, the Composite Water Utility Industry return on equity has been 8.8% in 2003 and 9.5% in 2004 and 2005. Through its own actions , the Company s debt-to- equity ratios were improved with its debt retirement and refinancing.Wi th these financial adj ustments, the equi ratio was increased and the debt ratio decreased, thus maintaining the Company s ability to access the capital markets wi th a good bond rating.Staff believes that the projected 2007 - 2009 return rates of 10% will continue to CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL, C (Di) STAFF769 afford the Company this opportunity. The Company maintains that it needs a common equity cost rate of 11.2% glven various risk factors presented by the Company.Would you please comment on these assertions? Risk is the uncertainty or unpredictabilityYes. of the future results of a company.The greater the range wi thin which future resul ts are likely to fall, the greater the risk associated with an investment in , or extension of credi t to the company.Certain factors may include high rates of technological changes, such as is occurring in the telecommunications industry.Technological changes are not substantial for water utilities so this is not a significant risk issue for Uni ted Waterworks.Other risk factors may include uncertainty about demand.In the monopoly environment in which United Water Idaho currently operates this risk is minimal compared to competitive industries like Micron , Simplot or most local businesses in Idaho.The Company s request for a 11.2% return on equity is higher than needed given the environment in which it operates. The Company s consultant, witness Ahern, discussed the risks associated wi th Uni ted Water and a beta study.Do you agree with the Company s position? No.Of the three Val ue Line companies used in the sample, two of the companies have betas of .7, and the third CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF770 6 ' Company has a beta of .75.These betas are all well under the market indicator of 1., therefore the sample presented by the Company reflects a lower than market risk for these water utilities. Did you perform any other equity analysis for the Company? Yes, under the direction of Staff witness Terri Carlock , I prepared a discounted cash flow analysis (DCF) See Staff Exhibi t No. 119. Were you able to calculate a DCF for Uni ted Water Idaho? Uni ted Water Idaho s cost of equi ty cannot be directly calculated from its own market data because United Water Idaho is a subsidiary of Uni ted Waterworks Inc. United Waterworks Inc. lS a wholly owned subsidiary of Suez a French conglomerate , and, only Suez has publicly traded common stock.Independent market data required to determine cost of equity directly for the regulated water utility operations of United Water Idaho simply is not available. The DCF analysis shown on Exhibi t No. 119 uses the three sample companies as listed in Value Line Investment Survey. Staff wi tness Carlock will expand upon this analysis in her testimony. Given the Staff analysis discussed in your testimony, would you please summarize your recommendations? CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL, C (Di) STAFF771 Yes, Staff recommends a set point of 10% as an appropriate return for Common Equi ty.For the cost of debt the recalculated composite rate using the appropriate calculation derived a 45% cost. The Minority Interest rate of 5% did not change.Staff reflects the Company s recent debt changes as they improved the Company s debt-to-equity ratios, thereby benefiting t'he Company as well as Idaho customers.Finally, Staff recommends an overall rate of return of 8.10% as the point authorized for use in the revenue requirement calculation. Does this conclude your direct testimony in this proceeding? Yes it does. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 HALL , C (Di) STAFF772 (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Staff Exhibit Nos. 117 through 119, having been premarked for identification , were admitted into evidence. MR. STUTZMAN Thank you, Mr. Cha i rman .And I previously indicated that Ms. Hall would be sponsoring and supporting the Stipulation and the cost of capital , so with the Chair's permission , I I d like to ask a few questions on that point. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Wi thout obj ection. MR. STUTZMAN Okay. BY MR. STUTZMAN:Ms. Hall, are you familiar with and have you reviewed the settlement weighted cost of capi tal between the Staff and United Water? Yes , I have. What are its prlmary components? There are two components.One was the cost of debt calculation , and the other was the return on equity. Do you believe the settlement on the cost of debt in the Agreement is reasonable and fair? I do.The Company and Staff differed in their calculation of the debt only as it relates to the recovery of issue costs, discounts , and premiums.The difference was . 45 percent.That was split to reach the settlement debt rate of 773 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 Hall (Di)Staff 675 percent. Okay.Thank you.Do you believe the settlement term on the return on equi ty in the Agreement is reasonable and fair? Yes, I do.The return on equity of 10.3 percent was wi thin the reasonable range, and the rate is similar to return on equity rates recently authorized by the Commission. Okay.Do you believe that the Commission should approve the Settlement Agreement? I do.The settlement rates were well within the range of reasonableness , and the Staff believes that the settlement will allow the Company to recover its costs and maintain its credit rating for future capital requirements. Okay.Thank you, Ms. Hall. MR. STUTZMAN:Mr. Chairman , that concludes the questions that I have.I did have the Settlement marked as Exhibit No. 131.I didn't distribute it because we filed it. I understand the part ies all have a copy of it.But I thought that there's a reference to it in some of the wi tness testimony, so I thought we'd assign it Exhibi t No. 131 , and without objection , I'd like that admitted. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:And wi thout obj ection we I 11 admi t Exhibi t 131. (Staff Exhibit No. 131 was marked for identification and admitted into evidence. 774 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 Hall (Di)Staff MR. STUTZMAN Ms. Hall That's all I have. ready for cross-examination. Okay.Let's go toCOMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: MR . PURDY:Neither I nor Mr. Eddie have any HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE , ID 83701 Mr. Purdy. Mr. Strickling. MR. STRICKLING:No questions. Mr. Campbe 11 . Thank you. Mr. Miller. Are there any questions No.Okay. questions. No opportunity for redirect, so I believe we can (The wi tness was excused. And we'll go ahead and MR. STUTZMAN Thank you , Mr. Cha i rman .We will And as Mr. Lobb is COMMI S S IONER KJELLANDER: COMMI S S IONER KJELLANDER: MR . CAMPBELL:No questions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: MR. MILLER:No questions. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: from members of the Commission? COMMISSIONER SMITH:No. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: say, "Thank you. THE WITNESS:Okay. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: get ready wi th another wi tness call Randy Lobb to the stand , please. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: 775 Hall (Di)Staff headed to the stand , it will be the intent of the Commission to break this evening either at or before five 0 I clock , with the understanding that there will be a public hearing later this evening in which Commissioner Hansen has graciously agreed to chair in my absence , and just wanted to let you know at least what the time frame was for this evenlng MR. MILLER:Along those lines , I I m not sure how much other cross-examination other witnesses (sic) might have for Mr. Lobb.Given the time that it is currently, if the Commission agrees , it might be best to defer my cross-examination until tomorrow morning after COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Let I S see how things proceed. MR. MILLER:Okay. RANDY LOBB produced as a wi tness at the instance of the Staff , being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. STUTZMAN Please state your name for the record and spell your last name. My name is Randy Lobb.That's L- 776 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (Di)Staff And where are you employed and in what capaci ty? m employed at the Idaho Public Utilities Commission as the administrator of the utili ties division. Thank you.In that capacity, did you prepare and prefile written testimony in this case? Yes , I did. Does that consist of approximately 13 pages? Yes. Do you have any correct ions or changes to your prefiled testimony? I have one change on page 8 , 1 ine The number ten" in "nearly ten million" should be "five, " " nearly five million. Okay.Any other changes or corrections? No. I f I were to ask you the quest ions contained in yo~r prefiled testimony today, would your responses be the same? Yes, they would. Did you have any exhibits as part of your testimony? No, I did not. Okay, thank you. MR . S TUT ZMAN :I d move that the testimony of 777 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BO IS E , I D 83701 LOBB (Di) Staff Randy Lobb be spread upon the record as if read. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Without objection , we'll spread the testimony across the record as read. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Mr. Lobb is spread upon the record. 778 HEDRICK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (Di)Staff Please state your name and business address for the record. My name is Randy Lobb and my business address 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho. By whom are you employed? I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission as Utilities Division Administrator. What is your educational and professional background? I received a Bachelor of Science Degree in Agricul tural Engineering from the Uni versi ty of Idaho in 1980 and worked for the Idaho Department of Water Resources from June of 1980 to November of 1987.I rece i ved my Idaho license as a registered professional Civil Engineer in 1985 and began work at the Idaho Public Utilities Commission in December of 1987.My duties at the Commission currently include case management and oversight of all technical staff assigned to Commission filings.I have conducted analysis of utility rate applications, rate design, tariff analysis and customer peti tions.I have testified in numerous proceedings before the Commission including cases dealing wi th rate structure, cost of service, power supply, line extensions, regulatory policy and facility acquisitions. What is the purpose of your testimony in this CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 1 779 LOBB , R. STAFF case? The purpose of my testimony in this case is to describe the policy position taken by the Staff with regard to the Company s proposed calculation of test year rate base and annualizing plant adjustments and explain the rational e support ing the pos i t ion. Please summarize your testimony. Staff proposes to establish the revenue requirement for Uni ted Water Idaho (UWI;Company)us lng rate base levels based on a test year average the monthly averages uslng July 2003 through July 2004 for the Company s proposed historic test year.Staff further proposes to include known and measurable plant additions through December 31, 2004 in the July 31 , 2004 rate base total for calculation of the 13 -month average.The additional five-month period proposed by Staff for making known and measurable plant adjustments allows the Company to update its historic test year to more current levels while reducing revenue/expense mismatches for adjustments out of the test year.It also allows Staff sufficient time to effectively evaluate and incorporate actual booked costs its case.The December 31,2004 deadl ine for adjusting historic test year values coincides wi th the close calendar year 2004 and generally consistent wi th the true-up to actual period allowed in the most recent Idaho CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 LOBB , R STAFF (Di) 2 780 Power general rate case. In a further effort to provide a revenue requirement more reflective of expected costs, Staff proposes to allow one notable exception to the December 31 2004 test year plant adjustment deadline and average rate base calculation.That exception is to include investment associated with the Columbia Water Treatment Plant (CWTP) as if it were in service for the entire test year.Staff also proposes that the Commission allow reasonable revenue producing and expense reducing test year adjustments as proposed by the Company to fully recognize the economic impacts the treatment plant is expected to have on the Company s annual revenue requirement.Given the size of the proj ect and its impact on test year rate base, expenses and revenues, Staff believes adjustments for the plant should be allowed even though actual expenses/revenues are not known and measurable.Annualizing or adding major plant addi tions such as this as if it were in service for the entire test year lS consistent with treatment of major plant additions in the recently completed Idaho Power and Avista rate cases. Why did Staff find it necessary to set a deadline and propose a methodology for calculating test year rate base and incorporating post-test year plant investment? The Staff makes its proposal for three primary CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 (Di) 3 781 LOBB , R. STAFF reasons.The first reason is to establish some certainty and consistency in the process a utility uses when selecting a historic test year, making proforma adj ustments and determining annual revenue requirement. establishing guidelines, utilities will consistently calculate test year rate base and properly incorporate rate base adjustments.The second reason is that it will reduce the e~pense/revenue mismatch identified by the Commission to occur when the costs of plant adjustments are added as if they were in service for a whole year without adjusting for any benefits.The third reason is that it will allow Staff to focus on the Company s filing wi th the expectation that adjustments will be known and measurable and that revisions to originally filed information will be provided In time for Staff to complete a proper analysis. What historic test year is used by UWI in this case and what adjustments does it propose? The Company has used a historic test year that runs from August 1, 2003 to July 31, 2004.The rate case was actually filed with the Commission on October 7, 2004. The Company has proposed many adjustments to the test year data.Some of the tradi tional adj ustments are for such items as weather normalization, partial billing periods and Other adjustments areother known and measurable changes. for estimated impacts of the Columbia Water Treatment Plant CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 LOBB, R. STAFF (Di) 4 782 ( CWT P) However , many of the adj ustments are for budgeted, anticipated or estimated investments that the Company plans to make through May 31, 2005.In fact the Company proposes 90 post-test year plant additions to rate base based on cost estimates of anticipated proj ects.The Company then uses a year-end rate base that incorporates all of the post-test year additions as if they were in service for the entire test year. How does UWI' s post-test year adjustments compare to those proposed by other companies in recent rate cases? Idaho Power Company in Case No. IPC-E- 03 -13 filed a 2003 test year with 6 months of actual expenses, revenues and investments and 6 months estimated.The Company made it's filing on October 16, 2003 and provided updated actual test year balances to the Commission prior to the Staff prefile for hearings in late March and early April 2004. Various normalizing, annualizing and known and measurable adjustments were made to test year revenues and expenses. In addi tion, the average of the monthly average rate base was used to recognize that some plant was in service for only part of the test year.Finally, only three maJ or plant addi tions were added beyond the end of the test year. These three maJ or proj ects were included in the rate base calculation as if they were in service for the entire test year. CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 LOBB , R. STAFF (Di) 5 783 In Case No. AVU-04-, Avista used a historic test year from January 1, 2002 to December 31, 2002.The Company then included various normalizing, annualizing and known and measurable adjustments to test year revenues and expenses.It too used an average of the monthly averages to establish rate base levels.The Company also included only four maj or plant addi tions beyond the test year; two generation proj ects and two transmission proj ects.These four major projects were included in the rate base calculation as if they were in service for the entire test year. Did the Commission approve the test year with post-test year plant additions as proposed by the companies In these two cases? Yes.However, in both cases the Commission expressed specific concern regarding annualizing plant adjustments to include plant investment added late in the test year or after the test year as if it were in place for a full year.In Order No. 29505, in Case No. IPC-03-13, the Commission stated: We generally believe that including investment in the calculation of average year rate base as if it were in service the entire year when it was not... creates a mismatch between test year revenue and expenses. In Order No. 29602 , In Case No. AVU-04-1, the CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 LOBB , R. STAFF (Di) 6 784 Commission stated: Rather than deny the Company annualizing plant rate base outright or requi re the Company to wai t for its next rate case to include the plant in rates,we accept staff's proxy proposal for calculating imputed revenues and expensereductions. The Commission went on to say: Henceforth, if the Company seeks full recovery of plant investment as if the plant had been in operation a full year it must present a corresponding adjustment to revenues and expenses. Did the Commission allow a year-end rate base in these cases? , the Commission required that rate base be set at the average of the 13 monthly average for the test year. The Commission also allowed these companies to include limited major plant additions completed after the test year as if they had been in service for the entire year provided revenue producing or expense reducing benefits from these proj ects were also included. Is the UWI filing consistent with these Commission orders? No, not with respect to determination of test year rate base levels or including test year ratepayer benef i ts that resul t from plant investment completed after the end of the test year.While the Company did add test year adjustments to reflect the revenue producing and CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 LOBB , R. STAFF (Di) 7 785 expense reducing effects of the single large CWTP post ~test year addition , it used an adjusted test year , year-end rate base total that results in a revenue requirement for plant additions as if the other post-test year plant additions had been in service for the entire test year.This treatment added nearly $10 million in post-test year plant additions to rate base for the entire test year without any revenue producing or expense reducing adj ustments. How does UWI' s proposed test year adj ustments this case compare to previous general rate filings made by the Company? In Case No. UWI - W- 97 - 6, the Company used a test year of July 1 , 1996 to June 30, 1997.In addi tion to the standard normalizing, annualizing and known and measurable expense adjustments, the Company included over 100 post- test year plant addi tions through February of 1998 totaling approximately $5.2 million.In Case No. UWI - W - 00 -1, the Company used a test year of October 1, 1998 to September 30, 1999 with 70 post-test year plant adjustments through April of 2000 totaling $4.8 million.In both of these cases the Company based its investment amounts on budgeted estimates and then trued-up to actual cost after its filing wi th the Commission.The Company also used a year-end rate base as if these plant additions had been in service for No revenue produc ing or expense-the entire test year. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 LOBB , R. STAFF (Di) 786 reducing adjustments were made to the test year for this plant. If the Commission allowed multiple expected plant additions beyond the test year in each of these preVlOUS UWI cases wi thout corresponding revenue/ expense adj ustments, why should the Commission not allow similar treatment in this case? Because the Commission has Slnce recognized an inequity in including the cost of plant additions in test year revenue requirement without incorporating the revenue producing / expense reducing effects of such proj ects The Commission has established boundaries that limit this mismatch by requiring the use of average rather than year- end rate base and limiting post-test year plant additions to large projects with associated benefits incorporated in the test year.Also in the prior cases, the plant projections were better justified as known and measurable wi th a longer time period for Staff to verify the actual pI ant numbers.I discuss this further later in my testimony. What type of additional problems do you foresee if the Commission allows the continued use of year-end test year rate base and unrestricted post-test year plant adj ustments? Beyond the mismatch created by adding plant CASE NO. UWI - W - 04 - 4 04/06/05 LOEB , R. STAFF (Di) 9 787 investment costs without corresponding test year benefits, allowing utilities to project post-test year investment based on anticipated budgets is contrary to the principal that test year adj ustments should be known and measurable. Further revenue/expense adjustments based on estimates designed to eliminate the cost/benefit test year mismatch for an ever increasing number of post-test year rate base additions ultimately results in a forecasted rather than historic test year.I do not believe it is the intent of the Commission to move to forecasted test years. Moreover, UWI has continued to expand its time period for including estimated post -test year plant additions in its rate case filings.In the 97 - 6 case, the Company included 100 expected proj ects for 8 months after the end of the test year.In the 00-1 case, the Company included 70 expected proj ects up to 7 months after the end of the test year.In this case the Company has added anticipated proj ects for ten months after the end of the test year.While the Company hopes to satisfy the known and measurable principal by providing actual costs for each proj ect prior to or at the hearing, it provides no time for the Staff to verify or evaluate, through audit, the actual costs submitted. Finally, if the Commission allows UWI to continue including unlimited post-test year plant adjustments using CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 (Di) 10 788 LOBB, R. STAFF a year-end rate base without offsetting revenue/expense adjustments, then every Idaho utility can be expected to the same.The statutory time frame for processing the company s rate case application is intended to reduce regulatory lag while allowing sufficient time for Commission review.The time period for processing a rate case In Idaho is already shorter than that for surrounding states.However, if cost information is continuously updated to the time of hearing, Staff and ul timately the Commission do not have sufficient time for adequate review. This is particularly true if Staff must also evaluate estimated revenue producing/expense reducing impacts such plant additions when they are added to test year rate base on a year-end basis. Are there any other differences in what Staff proposes in this case and what the Commission approved in the most recent Idaho Power and Avista general rate cases with respect to test year rate base calculations? Yes.There is one significant difference. both the Idaho Power and Avista cases, no plant addi tions completed beyond the test year were included in the calculation of test year rate base other than the limited large plant addi t ions previously described.In this case, Staff proposes that UWI be allowed to include plant additions proposed by UWI at the actual amount booked for CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 LOEB, R. STAFF (Di) 11 789 non-CWTP plant investment through December 31, 2004 as the investment were made by July 31 , 2004 , the end of the test year.The proposal allows the post-test year plant investment to be included for one month in the calculation of average rate base without requiring associated revenue producing or expense reducing test year adjustments.This treatment is consistent wi th the Commi ssion ' s Idaho Power ruling that allowed six months of estimated investment, to be trued up to actual investment and included in the test year calcufation of average rate base. Staff views this treatment as a compromise' that allows estimated investment to be trued up to actual investment during the processing of the case and included in the average rate base calculation.In the Idaho Power case the number of months investment was allowed in the rate base calculation was dependent upon when in the test year investment was made.In the UWI case, all plant additions completed following the test year were added after the end of the test year and are therefore, only included in the rate base average for one month.Allowing plant to be included in rate base on this limi ted basis greatly reduces the potential for revenue/expense mismatch which reduces the need for further test year adj ustment What is the revenue impact of the Staff' proposal? CASE NO. UWI-04- 04/06/05 LOBB , R. STAFF (Di) 12 790 Staff witness Harms has determined that Staff' rate base proposal will reduce the Company s proposed annual revenue requirement by $2.13 million.Addi tional details regarding the revenue requirement impact are provided in Ms. Harms testimony in this case. Would you please summarize your recommendation? Yes.Staff proposes to use an average of the monthly average rate base to establish test year rate base for ratemaking purposes.The July 2004 monthly average would include plant addi tions proposed by UWI at the actual booked dollar amount through December 31, 2004.Actual and projected plant investment in the CWTP through May 31, 200S would be included in the rate base total as if it were in servlce for the entire test year.The Company proposed revenue produc ing and expense reduc ing adj us tment associated with the CWTP would be included in the revenue requirement calculation.Revenue producing and/ or expense reducing adjustments to test year revenue requirement would not be required for non-CWTP post-test year plant additions included in the test year rate base average. Does this conclude your testimony in this proceeding? Yes, it does. CASE NO. UWI -W- 04- 04/06/05 LOBE , R. STAFF (Di) 13 791 (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. MR. STUTZMAN:Mr. Lobb is available for cross - examina t ion. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Purdy. MR . PURDY:Yes, thank you. CROS S - EXAMINA T I ON BY MR. PURDY: Mr. Lobb, though you didn t testify regarding the Stipulation or Agreement entered into between Community Action and United Water and the issues associated with that Agreement, I was advised that you are the appropriate witness to ask questions pertinent to that Agreement.Is that a fair Tha t 's correct. - - statement? Yes. Along those lines, I assume that you are familiar with that Agreement? Yes,have rev i ewed it. Okay.And,fact,didn sit in on theyou workshop that was publicly noticed and conducted in late February that led to that Agreement? Yes, I did. 792 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID LOBB (X) Staf f83701 And during the course of that workshop, is fair to say that you weighed in with your opinions regarding the issues that we discussed? Yes. Okay.Yet, obviously, Staff has not taken a formal opinion in this case regarding whether the Commission should either accept or rej ect that Agreement? That I S correct, no testimony was filed on that issue. Okay.So getting to the components of the Agreement, my first question is do you have any conceptual problems with the idea of a lower-priced initial block rate as we have agreed to wi th Uni ted Water for the purpose of frankly, assisting low- income customers, yet wi thout undermining the, you know , summer conservation price signals? Well , I think wi tness Sterling talked a lot about the potential problems with establishing an initial block rate or a tiered block rate , some of the information that we would like to have.You know, if we re going to establish an initial block rate, it seems ike it should have some relevance to the data that underlies the water consumption, and to establish a three ccf initial block rate that provides some 35 cents a month in rate relief for low-income customers, it seems a little short in terms of , you know , an item that might be viewed as low- income assistance. 793 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID LOBB (X)Staff83701 All right.So let me see if I can characterize what you I re saYlng:You're not opposed to the idea of the block rate; you seem to think it should be of a greater amount of consumption? Well, yeah, I think it should be established after reVlew of the information , and if we re going to establish a tiered block rate, we should look at the underlying information, rather than just establish it at a mlnlmum level in conjunction with a Stipulation, you know, to satisfy low- income needs. strike that. Well , is there some particular - - well, let me This Agreement was entered into and presented to the Commission Staff prior to the prefile deadline for both Staff and Intervenor testimony.Is that correct? did not seek issue? That's correct. All right.So is there some reason that Staff the necessary information to weigh in on the It was just really late filed.We got it just days before our testimony was due , and so we chose not to address that and to answer questions about that. Let me make this simple.The Staff doesn' really oppose the purposes and the obj ecti ves of the Stipulation , and, you know , we're not necessarily opposed to 794 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (X)Staff ~ . the tiered rate structure.We I ve made that proposal before. We I re not opposed to the proj ect Share concept.We' interested in the underlying costs of that program.The other aspects that conservation - - that the low- income targeted conservation programs I think Staff agrees is a good idea. re not really opposed at all to the principles proposed as part of the Stipulation. Okay.What would it take, in your oplnlon then in terms of additional information or procedure for this Commission to be equipped to make a ruling on whether to adopt a - - some kind of a block or tiered rate in this - - well , I'll leave it at that. Well , I thought it was important to recognlze that - - the lack of information.The Staff has proposed if a further investigation or information provided in a separate proceeding or a future rate case, perhaps that we could better develop a rate design that would work or be meaningful. I don t think - - I thought it was al so important to point out that we don't want to be too quick to change rates In between rate cases or change rate design in between rate cases.It causes confusion.We want to make sure, as a staff, that any scrambling or changing of rate design has the consequences intended.So we would just like to look at it more closely and provide - - have more information to view a rate design than we had in this case. 795 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID LOBB (X) Staf f83701 And when was the last general rate case filed by United Water? I believe it was a '99 test year, 2000 rate case. So roughly half a decade ago? Yeah , that I s correct. Well, don't you see a dilemma, Mr. Lobb , in that if now we are required to wait until United Water files for another rate case before we engage in modifying the Company' rate design, that - - well , does that trouble you that we would potentially have to wait that long? Well , we do have the - - we do have a summer/winter differential.I think we have lower rates in the winter.I think that provides - - it helps to provide a subsistence level of cost for low- income customers.So I think we have a rate design that people are comfortable wi th. think it's working fairly well. There has been a minimum block in the past. think it was associated wi th a minimum customer charge.That was eliminated.We proposed - - in several past rate cases we proposed various types of rate design changes based on lots of information, and we've pretty much maintained - - the Commission has maintained the rate design that is currently in place. I don't know how long it I s going to be before the Company comes in for another rate case, but I'm not sure that we have the urgency. 796 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE, ID LOBB (X) Staf f83701 Well, you indicated that you have a subsistence level buil t into your current rate design.Am I incorrect or isn t it true that all consumption during the summer month billed at a 25 percent higher rate? That I S true, but the 25 percent higher rate in the summer months allows a smaller or a lower rate in the winter months. All right. And , essentially, to a large extent , outdoor water consumption is discretionary. But isn I t it also true that the vast maj ori ty of customer bills for all customers - - well, I should say all residential customers - - are incurred during the summer months? That's true, because of outdoor - - outdoor water use. All right.Then Well , let me ask you this: sounds like you say - - you're saying that, conceptually, you don t have a problem wi th the idea of an ini tial block rate , we need more information, it's too low perhaps as agreed to between CAPAI and Uni ted Water.What I s the down side to the Commission approving the Agreement as reached between the two parties, if any? Just complicated, more complicated rate design. Sorry.More complicated what? 797 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID LOBB (X)Staff83701 More complicated rate design. All right.Is it your opinion that United Water feels it I s too complicated to implement this rate design? I don't know how United Water feels.Apparently, they reached the Stipulation , they're willing to provide a minimum block.Certainly, it wouldn t be overly problematic. m not sure it would be overly useful. All right.Last area I wanted to ask you about: What about the idea of , as I discussed with Ms. Ottens, a budgeted billing concept as opposed to a traditional level pay? So in other words, you are still billed the same summer rate for summer consumption , but you are given essentially an extended period of time to pay that amount off , perhaps above a certain percentage.I guess you could structure some mechanism like that in any number of ways.Do you see that as a viable means of assisting low-income customers? It seems, to me, that it would have more impact, it would be more beneficial to low-income customers, than a three ccf bimonthly block in the summer.It does nothing to affect the huge bills that could potentially be incurred during the summer months, and I think it I s the payment of those bills, whether you split it into two months or you have it In a single month, it seems, to me , the ability of customers to pay those bills in the time frame required is very difficult.So, spreading those bills out on some type of budget pay would seem 798 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 LOBB (X) Staf f 0:: to make some sense in assisting low-income customers to pay their bills. Okay.Thank you.That's all I have. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Eddie. MR. EDDIE:Just a few questions. CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. EDDIE: Mr. Lobb, were you here yesterday during Company witness Rhead' s testimony? Yes , I was. And particularly with regard to difficulty in acqulrlng sufficient supplies -- water supplies -- to cover summer 2005? Yes. Would you agree that the context of that testimony is that there is the likelihood of some urgency acqulrlng sufficient supplies or meeting customer demand in the current water environment that we find ourselves here in the Treasure Vall ey? Certainly. One of the policies underlying establishing an inverted block rate would be to send a stronger conservation signal to customers if the Commission were to decide to adopt 799 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID LOBB (X) Staf f83701 it? Well, that I s probably true, and I think we need to look at a couple different things.I mean , 2005 is particularly acute because of the water condi tions.And I think inverted block rates, while they I re perhaps a solution to somewhat immediate needs, but probably longer term needs as an al ternati ve maybe to supply-side resources, if you could send proper prlce signals and reduce consumption in that way. Okay.The difficulty in changing rate designs in between rate cases are not insurmountable difficulty, is it? No. Not that a rate design change happens every year but Idaho Power has a PCA where rates change just about every year? That's true, but those are usually uniform, and one of the things about rate design changes is they're not really very uniform.Some customers win and some customers lose, and that's the hard part. I think Il ve heard Commissioner Smith in the past characterize block rates as something of a blunt tool? Pardon me? I believe I've heard Commissioner Smith or one of the Commissioners characterize a block rate as something of a blunt tool, but nevertheless , one of the tools that we have to send a conservation signal.My question is whether it would be 800 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (X)Staff unreasonable to establish a block rate, an ini tial block rate, based upon the general cri teria that had been put forth by Mr. Sterling or Mr. Woj cik, for example, setting a block rate at average indoor use or average wintertime use within each appropriate billing category? Well, again , the Staff has made those types of proposals in the past.I personally have made proposals with regard to establishing first block rates based upon either customer characteristics such as residential, commercial public, whether or not you should set a single block rate based on historic usage of individual households.Obviously, if you just do an average for some group of customers, you know , maybe nobody is at that average, people use more or less.So it' really difficult to establish a minimum block that I s really representative of a block of customers that might use water in different ways. I guess my point is that you're always going to be imperfect in establishing the block and that a general cri teria could be a reasonable approach , and that, furthermore, if I may continue, that data such as average wintertime use or average which would be representative of average indoor use would be easy data to acquire in a matter of perhaps a few days or a week? Certainly you could get some information that wouldn I t take you long to get.Like I say, there I s been first 801 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (X)Staff block rates in the past where you got, I think , 600 - - or , six ccf bimonthly was the first block, if you will, associated with a mlnlmum customer charge. Okay.Thank you. MR. EDDIE:Nothing further. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Strickl ing. No quest ions.MR. STRICKLING: COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Campbe 11 . No questions.MR . CAMPBELL: COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Ready for Mr. Miller. MR. MILLER:What would be the Commission' attitude about starting my cross tomorrow morning, if I could ask? COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Well , you've already asked.Why don't we - - does it need to be connected up? There I S no breaking point wi thin that? MR. MILLER:I was just thinking, gl ven the hour of the day and the likely areas of cross in conjunction with the likely areas of Company rebuttal, the areas would go together bet ter , more understandable, if they all came - - they weren't broken up by 12 hours. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay, let me just ask this question and propose it broadly:We have another day of hearing scheduled and certainly don t want to see it extend beyond Thursday.Is there anyone who thinks that this should 802 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (X) Staf f be going into Friday, and might I get some kind of commi tment that we don t stray too far into the end of the day tomorrow that we even have to worry about extending this hearing into Friday? MR. MILLER:From the Company's point of view I 1 m quite confident that we probably have no cross of Ms. Carlock now that the - - given the status of the Stipulation, so we only have cross left for Mr. Lobb.And that only leaves the spreading of the testimony of the Company' rebuttal witnesses and the cross-examination of those three wi tnesses, which I would think could be accomplished in the course of the day. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Mr. Stutzman, any thoughts? MR. STUTZMAN:I guess from our perspective, can t imagine going past tomorrow. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Anyone else have any thoughts they would like to add to this?Mr. Campbe 11 . MR . CAMPBELL:Mr. Chairman, I can assure you won t go past tomorrow from my standpoint, because I cannot attend tomorrow given a prior client commitment. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.Anyone else want to add a thought or two? MR. EDDIE:Don Woj cik , our wi tness, is going to be available starting by his flight comes in at 10:15. 803 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (X)Staff don t know how much cross folks have of him. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:10: 15? MR. EDDIE:His flight comes in at 10:15. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:So the earliest he would be ready would be probably 11: OO? MR. EDDIE:Elevenish. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay. MR. EDDIE:Perhaps after lunch would be an ideal time for him. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Okay.It's our - - it would be our intent then to break for now , and we will have the public hearing tonight.Again, Commissioner Hansen will be the chair of that public hearing.And then tomorrow morning start time , 9: 0 0 a. m. ?9:00 a.And with that , I want to thank everybody again for doing the best to keep on track , and we'll wrap this up again tomorrow. (The witness left the stand. (The hearing adj ourned at 4: 40 p. m. ) 804 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTINGP. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 LOBB (X)Staff