20230612Customer Hearing Transcript Idaho Falls Idaho.pdf

In The Matter Of:
ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER FOR A CERT. OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE
June 12, 2023
T&T Reporting, LLC
477 Shoup Avenue, Suite 105
Idaho Falls, Idaho 83402
[phone]
Min-U-Script® with Word Index
1

1 BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION

2

3

4 IN THE MATTER OF THE APPLICATION )
OF ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER FOR A )CASE NO. PAC-E-23-01
5 CERTIFICATE OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE )
AND NECESSITY AUTHORIZING )NOTICE OF CUSTOMER
6 CONSTRUCTION OF THE BOARDMAN- )HEARING
TO-HEMINGWAY 500-KV TRANSMISSION )
7 LINE PROJECT )ORDER NO. 35769
)
8 ____________________________________)

9

10

11
LOCATION: Idaho Falls Public Library
12 457 Broadway Street
Idaho Falls, Idaho 83402
13
DATE & TIME: June 12, 2023; 6:00 p.m.
14

15

16

17

18

19

20

21

22

23

24 Reported by: Karla Steed-Layfield, RMR, CSR #1182

25
2

1 A P P E A R A N C E S

2
President Eric Anderson
3 Commissioner John R. Hammond, Jr.
Commissioner Edward Lodge
4 Assistant Attorney General Michael Duval
Maria Barratt-Riley - Idaho Public Utilities Comm.
5 Mark Alder - Rocky Mountain Power

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

18

19

20

21

22

23

24

25
- June 12, 2023
3

1 P R O C E E D I N G S

2 MR. ANDERSON: Good evening. This is the

3 time and place for a customer hearing in Case

4 Number PAC-E-23-01, also referred to as In the

5 Matter of the Application of Rocky Mountain Power

6 for a Certificate of Public Convenience and

7 Necessity Authorizing Construction of the

8 Boardman-to-Hemingway 500-kilovolt Transmission

9 Line Project.

10 The purpose of this hearing is to take

11 testimony from members of the public in reference

12 to Rocky Mountain Power's request that was filed

13 with the Commission on January 27, 2023.

14 My name is Commissioner Eric Anderson. I am

15 the Chair of tonight's proceedings. And I am

16 joined by Commissioner John Hammond to my left

17 and Commissioner Lodge to my right. We comprise

18 the Commission in this case that will

19 collectively make a final determination on this

20 matter.

21 To this point, two parties have intervened,

22 the Bayer Corporation and Idaho Irrigation

23 Pumpers Association, and an informational

24 workshop for the public has been conducted.

25 Tonight's objective is to take live public
- June 12, 2023
4

1 testimony which will be added to the underlying

2 record in the case. The commissioners will

3 review the facts and evidence in the record to

4 make its final decisions on the proceedings.

5 We have no one signed up at this point to

6 speak, so we'll continue on until we do. Please

7 defer to their comments and we will make that

8 notation.

9 As far as this procedure goes tonight, I

10 will call your name from the sign-up sheet and

11 you will take the stand to be sworn in. I will

12 ask you to raise your right hand and swear or

13 affirm that the testimony you're about to give is

14 the whole truth.

15 Our Deputy Attorney General tonight is

16 Michael Duval over to my right. He will ask you

17 to identify yourself for the record which will

18 include your name, spelling and your last name

19 and also your city of residence. Then you may

20 present your testimony.

21 All testimony tonight has to be pertinent to

22 the subject matter that is before us. If it is

23 some other subject matter, we will try to assist

24 you and guide you to the property authorities

25 that need to discuss those other matters.
- June 12, 2023
5

1 For those in the audience we ask that you

2 reframe from reacting to any testimony while it

3 is being presented or after. That means no

4 clapping and no verbal comment. And we

5 appreciate your willingness to respect this

6 process.

7 Since our cases are judicial in nature, we

8 have a court reporter taking an official

9 transcript this evening. The court reporter this

10 evening is Ms. Karla Steed-Layfield. Please

11 don't speak too softly or too fast or we may need

12 to give you a little nudge to speak up or slow

13 down.

14 The transcript is necessary because in our

15 quasi-judicial role, we must base our decisions

16 on that official record of which this is a part.

17 And that record is also significant in the event

18 of any appeal to this decision.

19 Appearance of the parties this evening:

20 Let's go ahead and recognize Rocky Mountain

21 Power.

22 MR. ALDER: Yeah, hi. Mark Alder with Rocky

23 Mountain Power.

24 MR. ANDERSON: Thank you. And welcome,

25 Mark.
- June 12, 2023
6

1 And our attorney general for staff.

2 MR. DUVAL: Michael Duval with the Public

3 Utility Commission Staff.

4 MR. ANDERSON: Thank you. Do we have

5 anybody from the Bayer Corporation?

6 (No response.)

7 MR. ANDERSON: No. Idaho Irrigation Pumpers

8 Association?

9 (No response.)

10 MR. ANDERSON: No. Are there any other

11 parties here that I misplaced or forgotten?

12 Seeing none. We are ready to call our first

13 witness. And at this point in time we do not

14 have anybody on the sign-up sheet.

15 So I think what we'll do, we're going to

16 give it five minutes to see if anybody -- we'll

17 recess for five minutes, and we'll come back in

18 to see if anybody shows up for testimony. With

19 that, we are in recess.

20 (Break taken.)

21 MR. ANDERSON: Our five minute period of

22 time is past so we'll call the meeting back to

23 order. It's 6:12 in the evening, and we have

24 nobody signed up for comment, and we have waited

25 for a period of time. And with that, and no one
- June 12, 2023
7

1 here to give public comment, we are now

2 adjourned.

3

4 (Hearing concluded at 6:12 p.m.)

5

6

7

8

9

10

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

18

19

20

21

22

23

24

25
8

1 REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE

2

3 I, Karla Steed-Layfield, certified shorthand

4 reporter #1182, State of Idaho, do hereby certify that the

5 foregoing transcript, consisting of pages 1 to 7, inclusive,

6 is a true and accurate record of the proceedings had on the

7 date and at the time indicated therein as stenographically

8 reported by me to the best of my ability,

9 dated the 16th day of June, 2023.

10

11

12

13

14

15

16

17

18

19

20 __________________________
Karla Steed-Layfield
21 Idaho CSR No. 1182
Notary Public in and for
22 the State of Idaho

23

24

25

ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER FOR A CERT. OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE
June 12, 2023
A
added (1)
4:1
adjourned (1)
7:2
affirm (1)
4:13
ahead (1)
5:20
ALDER (2)
5:22,22
ANDERSON (7)
3:2,14;5:24;6:4,7,
10,21
appeal (1)
5:18
Appearance (1)
5:19
Application (1)
3:5
appreciate (1)
5:5
assist (1)
4:23
Association (2)
3:23;6:8
Attorney (2)
4:15;6:1
audience (1)
5:1
authorities (1)
4:24
Authorizing (1)
3:7
B
back (2)
6:17,22
base (1)
5:15
Bayer (2)
3:22;6:5
Boardman-to-Hemingway (1)
3:8
Break (1)
6:20
C
call (3)
4:10;6:12,22
Case (3)
3:3,18;4:2
cases (1)
5:7
Certificate (1)
3:6
Chair (1)
3:15
city (1)
4:19
clapping (1)
5:4
collectively (1)
3:19
comment (3)
5:4;6:24;7:1
comments (1)
4:7
Commission (3)
3:13,18;6:3
Commissioner (3)
3:14,16,17
commissioners (1)
4:2
comprise (1)
3:17
concluded (1)
7:4
conducted (1)
3:24
Construction (1)
3:7
continue (1)
4:6
Convenience (1)
3:6
Corporation (2)
3:22;6:5
court (2)
5:8,9
customer (1)
3:3
D
decision (1)
5:18
decisions (2)
4:4;5:15
defer (1)
4:7
Deputy (1)
4:15
determination (1)
3:19
discuss (1)
4:25
down (1)
5:13
Duval (3)
4:16;6:2,2
E
Eric (1)
3:14
evening (5)
3:2;5:9,10,19;6:23
event (1)
5:17
evidence (1)
4:3
F
facts (1)
4:3
far (1)
4:9
fast (1)
5:11
filed (1)
3:12
final (2)
3:19;4:4
first (1)
6:12
five (3)
6:16,17,21
forgotten (1)
6:11
G
General (2)
4:15;6:1
goes (1)
4:9
Good (1)
3:2
guide (1)
4:24
H
Hammond (1)
3:16
hand (1)
4:12
hearing (3)
3:3,10;7:4
hi (1)
5:22
I
Idaho (2)
3:22;6:7
identify (1)
4:17
include (1)
4:18
informational (1)
3:23
intervened (1)
3:21
Irrigation (2)
3:22;6:7
J
January (1)
3:13
John (1)
3:16
joined (1)
3:16
judicial (1)
5:7
K
Karla (1)
5:10
L
last (1)
4:18
left (1)
3:16
Line (1)
3:9
little (1)
5:12
live (1)
3:25
Lodge (1)
3:17
M
Mark (2)
5:22,25
Matter (4)
3:5,20;4:22,23
matters (1)
4:25
may (2)
4:19;5:11
means (1)
5:3
meeting (1)
6:22
members (1)
3:11
Michael (2)
4:16;6:2
minute (1)
6:21
minutes (2)
6:16,17
misplaced (1)
6:11
Mountain (4)
3:5,12;5:20,23
must (1)
5:15
N
name (4)
3:14;4:10,18,18
nature (1)
5:7
necessary (1)
5:14
Necessity (1)
3:7
need (2)
4:25;5:11
nobody (1)
6:24
none (1)
6:12
notation (1)
4:8
nudge (1)
5:12
Number (1)
3:4
O
objective (1)
3:25
official (2)
5:8,16
one (2)
4:5;6:25
order (1)
6:23
over (1)
4:16
P
PAC-E-23-01 (1)
3:4
part (1)
5:16
parties (3)
3:21;5:19;6:11
past (1)
6:22
period (2)
6:21,25
pertinent (1)
4:21
place (1)
3:3
Please (2)
4:6;5:10
pm (1)
7:4
point (3)
3:21;4:5;6:13
Power (3)
3:5;5:21,23
Power's (1)
3:12
present (1)
4:20
presented (1)
5:3
procedure (1)
4:9
proceedings (2)
3:15;4:4
process (1)
5:6
Min-U-Script®(1) added - process
ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER FOR A CERT. OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE
June 12, 2023
Project (1)
3:9
property (1)
4:24
Public (6)
3:6,11,24,25;6:2;
7:1
Pumpers (2)
3:23;6:7
purpose (1)
3:10
Q
quasi-judicial (1)
5:15
R
raise (1)
4:12
reacting (1)
5:2
ready (1)
6:12
recess (2)
6:17,19
recognize (1)
5:20
record (5)
4:2,3,17;5:16,17
reference (1)
3:11
referred (1)
3:4
reframe (1)
5:2
reporter (2)
5:8,9
request (1)
3:12
residence (1)
4:19
respect (1)
5:5
response (2)
6:6,9
review (1)
4:3
right (3)
3:17;4:12,16
Rocky (4)
3:5,12;5:20,22
role (1)
5:15
S
Seeing (1)
6:12
sheet (2)
4:10;6:14
shows (1)
6:18
signed (2)
4:5;6:24
significant (1)
5:17
sign-up (2)
4:10;6:14
slow (1)
5:12
softly (1)
5:11
speak (3)
4:6;5:11,12
spelling (1)
4:18
staff (2)
6:1,3
stand (1)
4:11
Steed-Layfield (1)
5:10
subject (2)
4:22,23
swear (1)
4:12
sworn (1)
4:11
T
testimony (7)
3:11;4:1,13,20,21;
5:2;6:18
tonight (3)
4:9,15,21
tonight's (2)
3:15,25
transcript (2)
5:9,14
Transmission (1)
3:8
truth (1)
4:14
try (1)
4:23
two (1)
3:21
U
underlying (1)
4:1
up (4)
4:5;5:12;6:18,24
Utility (1)
6:3
V
verbal (1)
5:4
W
waited (1)
6:24
welcome (1)
5:24
whole (1)
4:14
willingness (1)
5:5
witness (1)
6:13
workshop (1)
3:24
2
2023 (1)
3:13
27 (1)
3:13
5
500-kilovolt (1)
3:8
6
6:12 (2)
6:23;7:4
Min-U-Script®(2) Project - 6:12