HomeMy WebLinkAbout20190624Telephonic Hearing Transcript Vol I.pdfORIGINAL
o
rn(f
o
o
BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
In the matter of the
application for approval of
the Professional Way-Broadway
Asset Purchases Agreement and
Transfer of Service Between
ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER ANd THE
CITY OE IDAHO FALLS.
Case No. PAC-E-L9-06
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
)
BEFORE
CHAIRMAN PAUL KJELLANDER
COMMISSIONER ERIC ANDERSON
COMMISSIONER KRISTINE RAPER
Date: June 11, 20L9
Location: Idaho Pub1ic Utilities Commission
472 W. Washington
Boise, Idaho 83702-59L9
REPORTED BY: CINDY LEONHARDT CCR, RPR
Notary Public
L-*-4
t-..
--trJ(,il
C)*.C)#
alr
u>aaoz
l*J
\44(-C
N)
T
-
HEDRISK
COURT REPORTING
POST OFFICE BOX 578
BOISE, IDAHO 83701
208-336-9208
,9et*ir!, t/o l/a/cwrrun* anrco frS
2
o
o
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
I
9
10
11
1,2
13
!4
15
t6
t7
L8
27
22
23
24
r.9
20
o
The telephonic Lrearingr of application for
approwal of t,he Professional Way-Broadway AEset Purchase
Agreement and Transfer of Serwice between ROCKY MOUNTAIN
POWER and the CITY of IDAHO FALLS, wag conducted at the
of f ices of Idatro Public Utilities Commission, 472 w.
Washington Street, Boige, Idaho, corunencing at 2zOO p.m.
on ,June LL , 20L9, bef ore Cindy L . Leonhardts , Regi stered
Professional Reporter and Notary Public within and for
the State of ldaho, in t,he abowe-entitled matter.
APPEARJAIVCES:
For Rocky Mount,ain Power:
BY MR. DAIVIEI, E. SOLAI\TDER, wia phone
L4O7 W. North Temple, Suite 330
Boise, Idaho 83720-0074
daniel . solander@paci f icorp . com
For the Staff:
Office of the Attorney General
BY MR. DAYN S . HARDIE
Boise, Idaho 83720-0001
700 W. ,Jefferson Street, Suite 2LO
Boise, Idatro 83720-0074
diane. hanian@puc . idaho. gov
ALSO PRESEfiIf : Conuniseioner Eric Andereon
Commissioner Kristine Raper25
I
Hearing - June 11,2019
COMMISSIONER KiIELLAIIDER: Good af ternoon.
This is tlre time and place for a telephonic hearing in
Caee No. PAC-E- 19 - 05, algo known aE In the Mat,ter of the
Application for Approval of ttre Professional
Way-Broadway AeEet Purchase Agreement, and TranEfer of
Service betsween Roeky Mountain Power and the City of
Idaho FaIIs.
My name iE Paul Kjellander. Ir11 be chairing
todayrs proceedings. To my right is Commissioner Eric
Anderson, and to my left is CommiEsioner Kristine Raper.
The tshree of ua comprise the Commission, and
at ttre conclusion of this teleptronic hearing we will be
the entiE,ieg who ultimately deliberate and iEEue a final
order in relationship to the fully developed record
associated with Case No. PAC-E-19-05.
AE a quick background tso the case, ttre company
Rocky Mountain Power gubmittsed its application for
approwal under the Idaho Electric Supplier Stabilization
Act, and the Electric Utility Asset, Transferred Statute
of ttre State of ldaho.
The company requested that its application be
procesaed under modified procedure. T14>ica1ly, the uEe
of modified procedure contemplatee a written submission
wit,trout a live hearingi howewer, Idatro Code Section
51-238 etates, rrTLre CormnisEion Eha1l iEsue a public
3
o
o 1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
L2
13
L4
15
16
L7
18
19
20
2L
22
23
24
25o
Hearing - June 11,2419
notice and shall conduct a publi-c hearing upon the
application.'l
And the reason I add that emphasis is because
thatrE my favorite section from ldaho st,atute, so thatrs
why werre here with a telephonic hearing tsoday.
Why don't we being with ttre appearance€r of the
parties. Why don't be begin with the Attorney General's
Office, representing tlre etaff of the Idatro Public
Utilities Commission.
Is this your firet appearance before ua in a
hearing?
MR. HARDIE: Yes, it is. Thank you,
Commissioner. My name is Dayn }Iardie, and I will be
representing ttre staff today.
COMMISSIONER KiIELLA}iIDER: Okay. I trope itrs
not too hea'ry of a lift.
MR. IIARDIE: I don't think it will be.
COMMfSSIONER KiIEIJIJAIIDER: Okay. Are ttrere any
other parties that need to be recognized for purposes of
the hearing today?
MR . SOLAIiIDER : Good af ternoon, Commi s s ioner
Kjellander. This is Danie1 Zo1ander, repre€eenting Rocky
Mountain Power.
COMMISSIONER K{IELLAITDER: Good afternoon,
Daniel. IIow are you? Where are you calling in f rom?
4
o
O
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
I
9
10
11
L2
L3
L4
15
15
L7
1_8
19
20
2L
22
23
24
a 25
Hearing - June 11,2019
MR. SOLAIIDER: I arn actually in my car.
That,rs just how it,'s got to be.
COMMISSIONER K.]ELLAIITDER: Excellents. And just
for my clarification, are you legaI counsel and are you
eligible tso croE E-examine?
MR. SOLAIiIDER: Yes, I arn legal counsel for
Rocky Mountain Power, and if ttrere are any circumstanceg
required, I would be requeE ting the abiliEy to
croc Er-examine.
COMMISSIONER K'JELLAIIDER: Excellent. And
since t,his is a teleptronic trearing and you're,
obwiously, on a celI phone and you are driwing, please
stay out of any, 1ike, culwertsE or tunnele or anyttring
justr 1zoll know, in case you do have to ask a qrrestion.
MR . SOLAIiIDER : I ! we pul led over at the
COMMISSIONER KiIELLAIIDER: Excellent, because
that waE, going to be my next presentation. AIEo, don't
text and driwe. I thought I ! d throw that out there too.
MR. SOLAIIDER: Thank you .
COMMISSIONER KJELLAIIDER: Let ' s see, as we
move forward with the proceeding, are there any
indiwiduale on ttre phone who wish to testify?
The long paue e indicates tshat, ttrere waE no one
else on ttre 1ine, and since it was anticipated there
would be no one else on the line, it would be my desire
5
o
o
1
2
3
4
5
5
7
8
9
10
11
72
13
L4
15
15
L7
18
19
20
2L
22
23
24
o 25
Hearing - June 11,2019
at this point to eat into the attorneyrs ceII minutes by
tsaking a fiwe-minut,e recess to see if anyone would like
to call in. At that point, ttren we'Il reconvene.
If there are no new callers, w€ will close the
hearing at that point. However, if there are callers,
at that point we'11 take their testimony.
Ats this point we will go off the record for a
period of five minutes.
(Break taken. )
COMMISSIONER KiIELLAIiIDER: We r re back on the
record after an official fiwe-minute receEE. We'11 just
ctreck to Eiee if there are any potential callers who wish
to tsestify on the line today.
Arrd we're receiwing a signal ttrat there are no
potsentsiaI members of the public who wieh to testify on
Case No. PAC-E-19-05.
Where that takeg rrg, then, is, Mr. Hardie, if
you could just make uE aware, officially, for the
record, of whatrs 1eft, with this case with regards to
any comment period.
MR. HARDIE: Yeg. Thank you. The eomments
period for public commente iE ,June 18th. That, will be
next Tuesday . And then on ,June 2 5 th ttre company can
reply to ttroee comments if they desire to.
That's it for ttre public.
5
o
o
L
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
1,1
L2
L3
L4
15
15
L7
18
r.9
20
2L
22
23
24
o 25
Hearing - June 11,2019
COMMISSIONER KiIELLAIIDER: Great. Thank you.
I appreeiate the update.
Are there any ot,her quee tions or comments or
mat,ters that need to come before uE in this telephonic
trearing?
MR . AITTDERSON: No .
MS. RAPER: No.
COMMISSIONER KiIELLAIiIDER: Is tlrere anyone that
we need to hear from from PacifiCorp?
MR. SOLATiIDER: I don't beliewe so at t,his
point, Chairman.
COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: AII right. Thank
you very much for being wittr us today, and I appreciate
your participation. And gince there are no ottrer
matters to come before uE today in reference to this
teleptronic hearingr yr/€ are adjourned.
(Hearing concluded at 2tL3 p.m.)
7
o
o
L
2
3
4
5
5
7
8
9
10
11
72
13
L4
15
15
t7
18
1-9
20
2t
22
23
24
25o
o
o
1
2
3
4
5
6
8
9
10
11
t2
13
74
15
76
!7
18
19
20
2L
22
23
24
25
NoT4f u--a-'PltBttc
OF
REPORTER I S CERTIFICATE
I, CINDY LEONHARDT, CSR No. 7L5,
Certified Shorthand Reporterr certify;
That the foregoing proceedings were
taken before me at the time and place therein set
forth, at which time the witness was put under
oath by me;
That the testimony and al-1 obj ections
made were recorded stenographically by me and
transcribed by me or under my di-rection;
That the foregoing is a true and
correct record of all testimony given, to the
best of my ability;
I further
relative or employee
nor am I financially
IN WITNESS
certify that I am not a
of any attorney or party,
interested i-n the action.
WHEREOF, I set my
-Y+tc o,,,^,
hand
,20
and
seal this ay of v
CTNDY LEONHARDT, C. S. R. No. 715, R. P
Notary Public
P. O. Box 2636
Boi-se, Idaho 83707-2636
My Commission expires November 28, 2024.
o
_11_
qXt't( 14
;,'i*
(lt trt
o
o
o
I
In the Matter of the Application for Approval
(Rockly Mountain Power and City of Idaho Falls)
Hearing
June ll,20l9
A
4:15
I
Idaho (6)
3:7 ,18,20,24;4:4,8
indicates (l)
5:23
individuals (l)
5:22
into (1)
6:1
issue (2)
3:13,25
June (2)
6:22,23
K
KJELLANDER (14)
3 : 1,8;4: I 5, I 8,22,24;5:3,10,
16,20:6:10:7:1,8,12
known (l)
3:3
Kristine (l)
3:10
o
O
ability (1)
5:8
Act (l)
3:19
actually (1)
5:1
add (1)
4:3
adjourned (l)
7:16
afternoon (3)
3:l;4:21,24
Agreement (1)
3:5
Anderson (2)
3:10;7:6
anticipated (1)
5:24
appearance (1)
4:10
appearances (l)
4:6
Application (4)
3:4,17,21:4:2
appreciate (2)
7:2,13
Approval (2)
3:4.18
Asset (2)
3:5, I 9
associated (l)
3:15
Attorney (1)
4:7
attorney's (l)
6:l
aware (1)
6:18
back (1)
6: l0
background (1)
3: l6
begin (l)
4:7
Break (l)
6:9
call (l)
6:3
callers (3)
6:4,5,12
calling (l)
4:25
can (1)
6:23
J
L
B
left (2)
3:10;6:19
legal (2)
5:4.6
rift (l)
4:16
line (3)
5:24,25;6:13
live (1)
3:24
long (l)
5:23
M
C
Matter (1)
3'.5
matters (2)
7:4,15
members (l)
6:15
minutes (2)
6:1,8
modified (2)
3:22,23
Mountain (4)
3:6,17;4:23;5:7
move (l)
5:21
much (1)
7:13
5: l8
driving (l)
5:12
E
eat (1)
6:l
Electric (2)
3:18,19
eligible (1)
5:5
else (2)
5:24,25
emphasis (1)
4:3
entities (l)
3:13
Eric (l)
3:9
Excellent (3)
5:3,10,16
F
Falls (l)
3:7
favorite (l)
4:4
final (l)
3:13
first (l)
4: l0
five (l)
6:8
five-minute (2)
6:2.11
forward (1)
5:21
fully (l)
3:14
G
car (l)
5:1
Case (6)
3 :3, 1 5, I 6;5 : 1 4;6:16,19
cell (2)
5:12,6:l
chairing (l)
3:8
Chairman (l)
7:l I
check (l)
6:12
circumstances (l)
5:7
City (l)
3:6
clarification (l)
5:4
close (1)
6:4
Code (1)
3:24
comment (2)
6:20,21
comments (3)
6:22.24;7:3
Commission (3)
3:11,25;4:9
coMMrssroNER (16)
3 : 1,9, 10;4: I 3,15,18,21,24;
5:3, 10, 16,20;6: l0;7: 1,8, 12
company (3)
3:16,21:'6:23
comprise (1)
3:1 I
concluded (1)
7:17
conclusion (1)
3:12
conduct (l)
4:l
contemplates (l)
3:23
counsel (2)
5:4,6
cross-examine (2)
5.5 q
culverts (1)
5:13
General's (l)
4:7
Good (3)
3:1,4:21,24
Great (l)
7:l
D
H
Daniel (2)
,t.)) )\
Dayn (l)
4: l3
deliberate (l)
3:13
desire (2)
5:25;6:24
developed (1)
3:14
drive (1)
HARDTE (s)
4:12,13,17;6:17 ,21
hear (l)
7:9
hearing (12)
3 :2,1 2,24;4 : 1,5,1 1,20;
5:l l;6:5:7:5,16,17
heavy (l)
4:16
hope (l)
O
(9) ability - much
In the Matter of the Application for Approval
(Rockly Mountain Power and City of ldaho Falls)
name (2)
3:8;4: 1 3
need (3)
4:19,7:4,9
new (l)
6:4
next (2)
5:17;6:23
notice (1)
4..1
o
N
w
Way-Broadway (1)
3:5
what's (l)
6:19
wish (3)
5:22;6:12,15
without (l)
3:24
written (l)
3:23
Zolander (l)
4..22
l8th (r)
6:22
2:13 (1)
7:17
2sth (l)
6:23
6l-238 (1)
3:25
Hearing
June 11,2019
U
(10) name - 6l-238
o
o
o
ultimately (1)
3:13
under (2)
3:18,22
update (l)
7:2
upon (l)
4:1
use (l)
3:22
Utilities (l)
4:9
Utility (l)
3:19obviously (1)
5:12
off (1)
6:7
Office (l)
4:8
official (1)
6:1 I
officially (1)
6: l8
one (2)
5:23,25
order (l)
3:14
out (2)
5:13,18
over (l)
5:15
Z
P
PAC-E-19-06 (3)
3:3,15;6:16
PacifiCorp (l)
7:9
participation (1)
7:14
parties (2)
4:1,19
Paul (l)
3:8
pause (l)
5:23
period (3)
6:8,20,22
phone (2)
5:12,22
place (l)
3:2
please (l)
5:12
pm (1)
7:17
point (6)
6:1.3,5,6,7;7:l I
potential (2)
6:12,15
I
)
6
3:6,17:4:22;5:7
S
Power (4)
3:6,17;4:23;5:7
presentation (l)
5:17
procedure (2)1.r, )2J.LL.LJ
proceeding (l)
5:21
proceedings (1)
3:9
processed (1)
3:22
Professional (1)
3:4
public (6)
3 :25;4: 1,8;6: I 5,22,25
pulled (1)
5:15
Purchase (1)
3:5
purposes (1)
4:19
a
quick (l)
3:16
R
Section (2)
3:24;4:4
Service (1)
3:6
shall (2)
1.r 5./.. 1
signal (1)
6:14
SOLANDER (6)
4:21;5:l ,6,15, I 9;7: I 0
Stabilization (l)
3: l8
staff (2)
4:8,14
State (l)
3:20
states (1)
3:25
Statute (2)
3:19:.4:4
stay (l)
5:13
submission (1)
3:23
submitted (l)
3:17
Supplier (1)
3:18
T
Raper (2)
3:10:7:7
reason (l)
4:3
receiving (l)
6:14
recess (2)
6:2.11
recognized (1)
4:19
reconvene (l)
6:3
record (4)
3:14',6:7 ,11,19
reference (l)
7:15
regards (l)
6: l9
relationship (1)
3:14
reply (l)
6:24
representing (3)
4:8,14,22
requested (l)
3:21
requesting (l)
5:8
required (1)
5:8
right (2)
3:9:7:12
Rocky (4)
telephonic (6)
3 :2,12;4: 5 ;5 : | 1 ;7 :4,1 6
testify (3)
5:22;6:13,15
testimony (1)
6:6
thought (l)
5:18
three (l)
3:11
throw (1)
5:18
today (6)
4 :5,1 4,20 ;6: I 3 ;7 : 1 3,1 5
today's (l)
3:9
Transfer (1)
3:5
Transferred (1)
3:19
Tuesday (1)
6:23
tunnels (1)
5:13
Typically (1)
3:22