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BEFORE THE IDABO PUBLIC UTILITIES
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IN THE MATTER OF THE APPLICATION
OF PACIFICORP DBA ROCKY MOUNTAIN
POWER FOR APPROVAL OF CHANGES TO
ITS ELECTRIC SERVICE SCHEDULES
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PUBLIC HEARING
HEARING BEFORE
COMMISSIONER PAUL KJELLANDER (Presiding)
COMMISSIONER MACK A. REDFORD (via telephone)
COMMISSIONER MARSHA H. SMITH (via telephone).
PLACE:Commission Hearing Room
472 West Washington
Boise, Idaho
DATE:December 19, 2011
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NEIL PRICE, Esq.
Deputy Attorney General
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Jerry Gafford Mr.Price 386
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1 BOISE, IDAHO, MONDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2011, 7:03 P.M.
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4 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Well, good evening.
5 This is the time and place for telephonic hearing in Case No.
6 PAC-E-11-12 regarding proposed settlement in the matter of the
7 Application of PacifiCorp dba Rocky Mountain Power for approval
8 of changes to its electric service schedules.
9 My name is Paul Kj ellander. Also involved in the
10 telephonic conference are Commissioners Marsha Smith and
11 Mack Redford. The three of us will ultimately determine the
12 final outcome of this case and issue a Final Order wi thin the
13 coming weeks.
14 The sole purpose of this evening's telephonic
15 hearing is to take testimony from customers of Rocky Mountain
16 Power who were unable to attend the first two previous public
17 hearings, one that was held in Downey and the other in Saint
18 Anthony. So in an effort to accommodate more customers and to
19 provide them the opportunity to comment, we have provided this
20 telephonic hearing this evening.
21 So at this point, we'll take the appearances of
22 the parties, and we'll begin with the attorney representing the
23 Staff of the Idaho Public Utilities Commission.
24 MR. PRICE: Thank you, Chairman Kjellander.
25 Neil Price, Deputy Attorney General, representing Commission
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2 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: And for the record,
3 none of the other Intervenors are here with legal Counsel, so
4 the only cross-examination that may occur of witnesses will
5 come from either Mr. Price or from the Commissioners
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7 So at this point, I'll check with Mr. Gene
8 Fadness from the Public Utili ties Commission --
9 TELEPHONIC VOICE: Lecture mode on.
10 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: -~ who is operating the
11 telephonic conference to determine if we have anyone on the
12 system tonight who wishes to provide public comment.
13 MR. GENE FADNESS: We do have a couple of people
14 who joined the call, none to sign up to testify yet.
15 Remember, if you want to testify, press star one
16 on your phone keypad and then we'll be able to call on you so
17 that you can testify. So if you want to do that, just go ahead
18 and press star one on your keypad.
19 TELEPHONIC VOICE: Participant line unmuted.
20 MR. PRICE: Is someone there?
MR. GAFFORD: Yes.
MR. PRICE: Good evening, sir.
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1 JERRY GAFFORD,
2 appearing as a telephonic public witness, being first duly
3 sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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8 Q.And can you please state your name and spell your
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10 A.Jerry Gafford, G-A-F-F-O-R-D.
11 Q.And what is your address, sir?
12 A.176 North Third West, Rigby, Idaho, 83442.
13 Q.And are you a Rocky Mountain Power customer?
14 A.Correct.
15 Q.Okay, sir, go ahead and proceed with your
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17 THE WITNESS: This rate increase is absolutely
18 absurd. I am adamantly opposed to it. No way. No way should
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20 COMM ISS lONER KJELLAN DER : 0 ka y . And,
21 Mr. Gafford, does that complete your comments for your
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THE WITNESS: Excuse me?
COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Mr. Gafford, does that
complete your comments for your testimony this evening?
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1 THE WITNESS: Yes, that completes my comment: No
2 way. No way, Jose.
3 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Thank you, Mr. Gafford.
4 Let me see if there are any questions from either members of
5 the Commission or from legal Counsel.
6 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: None from Mack Redford.
7 MR. PRICE: Sir, could you repeat your first name
8 again for the record just for our court reporter?
9 THE WITNESS: My first name is Jerry, J-E-R-R-Y.
10 MR. PRICE: Thank you, sir.
11 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Thank you, Mr. Gafford.
12 We appreciate your testimony. Thank you.
13 (The witness was excused.)
14 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Is there anyone else?
15 MR. GENE FADNE6S: Did Mack have a question?
16 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: No, Mack did not have a
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18 TELEPHONIC VOICE: There are no more questions.
MR. GENE FADNESS: If there is anyone else -- I
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21 to ask a question, press star one and then we'll be able to
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COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: For clarification,
instead of saying "ask a question," could you please use the
vernacular of "providing public testimony."
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1 MR. GENE FADNESS: Oh, excuse me.
2 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Thank you.
3 MR. GENE FADNESS: Okay, let's see.
4 TELEPHONIC VOICE: Participant line unmuted.
5 MR. PRICE: Is anyone there?
6 MS. GAFFORD: Yes. This is Donna LaRae Gafford.
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15 Q.And can you please state and spell your last name
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17 A.It's Donna, D-O-N-N-A, LaRae, L-A capital R-A-E,
18 Gafford, G-A-F-F-O-R-D, 176 North Third West, Rigby, Idaho,
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20 Q.And, ma' am, are you a Rocky Mountain Power
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A.Oh, yes.
Q.Okay. Please proceed with your testimony.
THE WITNESS: We just do not feel that this raise
is necessary. I mean, this is an ongoing thing with Rocky
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1 Mountain Power. They're killing us retired people, and no way
2 do we want to see this raise.
3 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Okay. Well, thank you,
4 Ms. Gafford. Let me see if there are some questions.
5 MR. PRICE: No questions.
6 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No questions from
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8 COMMISSIONER SMITH: And none from me either.
9 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Thank you.
10 Ms. Gafford, thank you very much for your
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12 THE WITNESS: Okay, thank you. Have a good
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14 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: You too.
15 (The witness was excused.)
16 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Mr. Fadness, is there
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18 TELEPHONIC VOICE: There are no more questions.
19 MR. GENE FADNESS: Not right now, we don't have
20 anyone. We do have a couple of participants still on the line.
21 If they want to testify, they can press star one on their
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23 And I don't believe there's anyone else wanting
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25 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: All right. Well, since
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1 the telephonic conference is somewhat unique and I think we're
2 still trying to figure this out on our own in terms of what is
3 most accommodating, why don't we go off the record for about
4 five minutes and see if we receive any other calls; and if we
5 do, then we will take some additional testimony. If we don't
6 receive any additional calls with an inquiry to provide some
7 testimony, then we will close the hearing at that point. So,
8 we'll go off the record and see if we get a few more calls in,
9 and then we'll come back on in five minutes to either take
10 addi tional testimony or conclude the hearing.
11 (Discussion off the record.)
12 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: And we're now back on
13 the record. I'm Paul Kj ellander, the Chairman of tonight's
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15 This is the telephonic hearing that was
16 established in Case No. PAC-E-II-12. We've heard from two
17 customers of Rocky Mountain Power earlier this evening, and we
18 have one final opportunity to see if there is testimony before
19 we conclude this hearing this evening.
20 As a point of interest, there were two earlier
21 public hearings held in Eastern Idaho, one in Downey and the
22 other in Saint Anthony, and the purpose of this evening's
23 telephonic hearing is to allow another opportunity for
24 customers wi thin the Rocky Mountain Power service terri tory to
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1 So we'll check to see if there is anyone else who
2 is interested in providing testimony this evening.
3 Mr. Fadness, is there anyone else in the queue?
4 MR. GENE FADNESS: No one in the queue. I have
5 turned the mute off though, so if anyone is online, all they
6 have to do now is just speak up. Is there anyone online who
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9 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Okay. Well, thank you,
10 Mr. Fadness.
11 And appreciate the participation we've had this
12 evening, as well as the appearances of legal Counsel for the
13 Staff of the Idaho Public Utili ties Commission and for the
14 assistance of Commissioners Marsha Smith and Mack Redford in
15 being engaged in the telephonic hearing this evening as well.
16 So are there any matters that need to come before
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18 MR. PRICE: No additional matters, Mr. Chairman.
19 I think at this point, this is the last step in the process of
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22 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: Okay. Well, it appears
23 as if we will be closing the record on this. The three
24 Commissioners will begin their deliberations on the case. I do
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4 This is to certify that the foregoing is a
5 true and correct transcript to the best of my ability of the
6 proceedings held in the matter of the Application of
7 PacifiCorp, dba Rocky Mountain Power, for approval of changes
8 to its electric service schedules, Case No. PAC-E-II-12,
9 commencing on Monday, December 19, 2011, at the Commission
10 Hearing Room, 472 West Washington, Boise, Idaho, and the
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c~Q;:4f~WENDY J. MURRÅtay Pub ic ~
in and for the State of Idaho,
residing at Meridian, Idaho.
My Commission expires 2-8-2014.
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