HomeMy WebLinkAbout20101223Vol X Technical Hearing pp 2025-2205.pdfORIGINAL
e BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
IN THE MATTER OF THE APPLICATION
OF PACIFICORP DBA ROCKY MOUNTAIN
POWER FOR APPROVAL OF CHANGES TO
ITS ELECTRIC SERVICE SCHEDULES
CASE NO.
PAC-E-10-07
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HEARING BEFORE
COMMISSIONER MARSHA H. SMITH (Presiding)
COMMISSIONER MACK A. REDFORD
COMMISSIONER JIM D. KEMPTON
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PLACE:Commission Hearing Room
472 West Washington Street
Boise, Idaho
DATE:December 2, 2010
VOLUME X - Pages 2025 - 2205
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For PacifiCorp
dba Rocky Mountain Power
(RMP) :
SCOTT WOODBURY, Esq.
and NEIL PRICE, Esq.
Deputy Attorneys General
472 West Washington
Boise, Idaho 83702
HICKEY & EVANS, LLP
by PAUL J. HICKEY, Esq.
Post Office Box 467
Cheyenne, Wyoming 82003
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DANIEL E. SOLANDER, Esq.
ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER
201 South Main Street, Suite 2300
Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
RACINE, OLSON, NYE, BUDGE
& BAILEY
by RANDALL C. BUDGE, Esq.
Post Office Box 1391
Pocatello, Idaho 83204-1391
RACINE, OLSON, NYE, BUDGE
by ERIC L. OLSEN, Esq.
Post Office Box 1391
Pocatello, Idaho 83204-1391
BENJAMIN J. OTTO, Esq.
IDAHO CONSERVATION LEAGUE
710 North Sixth Street
Boise, Idaho 83702
WILLIAMS BRADBURY, PC
by RONALD L. WILLIAMS, Esq.
1015 West Hays Street
Boise, Idaho 83702
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DA VI SON VAN CLEVE, PC
by MELINDA J. DAVISON, Esq.
333 Southwest Taylor, Suite 400
Portland, Oregon 97204
BRAD M. PURDY, Esq.
Attorney at Law
2019 North Seventeenth Street
Boise, Idaho 83702
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For Idaho Irrigation
Pumpers Association (IIPA):
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Industrial Customers (PIIC):
For Community Action
Partnership Association
of Idaho (CAPAI):
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WITNESS EXAMINATION BY PAGE
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Cecily Vaughn Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2025
4 (Staff)Prefiled Direct 2027
5 Marilyn Parker Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2046
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Curtis Thaden Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2068
7 (Staff)Prefiled Direct 2079
8 Beverly Barker Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2099
(Staff)Prefiled Rebuttal 2101
9 Mr.Purdy (Cross)2109
10 Lynn Anderson Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2113
(Staff)Prefiled Direct (Grayson)2115
11 Mr.Otto (Cross)2125
12 Kei th Hessing Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2127
(Staff)Prefiled Direct 2129.13
Terri Carlock Mr.Woodbury (Direct)2134
14 (Staff)Prefiled Direct 2137
Mr.Hickey (Cross)2160
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Steven McDougal Sworn 2166
16 (RMP-Surrebuttal)Mr.Hickey (Direct)2167
Mr.Budge (Cross)2171
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Gregory Duvall Mr.Hickey (Direct)2172
18 (RMP-Surrebuttal)Mr.Woodbury (Cross)2179
Commissioner Smith 2181
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Darrell Gerrard Mr.Hickey ( Direct)2182
20 (RMP-Surrebuttal)Mr.Williams (Cross)2192
Mr.Woodbury (Cross)2193
21 Mr.Budge (Cross)2195
Mr.Hickey (Redirect)2196
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1 Revenue Requirement Summary, 3 pgs
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6 2 Revenue Requirement, voluminous
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3 Confidential
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9 4 LGAR Calculation
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5 Cost of Long Term Debt Summary, 3 pgs
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12 6 Standard & Poor's Ratings Direct
Rating Factors
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7 Standard & Poor's Ratings Direct
PPA Debt Imputation, 7 pgs14
15 8 PCRB Variable Rates, 3 pgs
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9 Cost of Preferred Stock
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18 10 Comparable Company Fundamentals
11 Capi tal Market Costs, 3 pgs
12 GOP Growth Rate
13 Discounted Cash Flow Analysis, 5 pgs
14 Risk Premium Analysis
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4 34 Populus to Terminal Map
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35 DOE Congestion on Western Paths Map
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7 36 Incentive Rate Order, 29 pgs
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37 Populus to Terminal Cost Summary
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10 38 Summary of Bidder Evaluations, 7 pgs
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39 Proj ect Photos
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13 40 Confidential
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41 Confidential
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43 Illustration of Section 481 (a)
Accounting
44 Repairs Deduction Impact, 3 pgs
45 Normalization vs Flow-Through Impact,
3 pgs
46 Normalization Impact, 4 pgs
47 Cost of Service Summary by Rate
Schedule, 2 pgs
48 Cost of Service Summary by Function,
6 pgs
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1 Cost of Service Study, voluminous49
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50 Estimated Effect of Propposed Changes
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4 Proposed Revisions to Tariffs, Clean,
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52 Proposed Revisions to Tariffs,
Legislati ve, 31 pgs6
7 Residential Customer Service Charge53
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54 Customer Impact of Proposed Changes,
9 pgs9
10 Billing Determinants, 6 pgs55
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56 2008, 2009 Energy Efficiency Program
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13 Economic Data, 3 pgs57
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58 Updated Gorman ROE Results, 7 pgs
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16 Discounted Cash Flow Analysis, 5 pgs59
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60 Risk Premium Analysis, 3 pgs
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62 O&M Costs by Wind Facility
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64 Fuel Stock Balances
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81 Rebuttal COS, Summary by Rate Schedule, Premarked2 pgs Admi t 2204
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4 68 Example of an Engineer Goals, 5 pgs
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69 Example of Six Employee Goals, 22 pgs
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7 70 2009 Merit Analysis
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71 NPC Summary
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10 72 Black Hills Power
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73 Black Hills Average Energy
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13 74 Black Hills HLH
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16 76 Consumer Information Brochure, 2 pgs
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77 Disconnect Notice, 2 pgs
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78 Revenue Requirement Summary
79 Results of Operations Summary,
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80 Updated LGAR Calculation, 3 pgs
82 Rebuttal COS, Summary by Function,
6 pgs
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.1 83 IIPA Data Request 16 Premarked
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84 Rebuttal Rate Spread,Rate Design and Premarked
3 Monthly Billing Comparisons,21 pgs Admit 2204
4 85 -93 Admitted 2204
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101 Updated In-service and Costs Premarked
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8 102 Confidential Premarked
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103 Confidential Premarked
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11 104 Summary of D.English Adj ustments Premarked
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105 Adj ustment to Pension Expense Premarked.13 Admit 2204
14 106 Confidential Premarked
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107 Affiliated MEHC Management Fees Premarked
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17 108 Idaho Revenue Requirement and Premarked
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109 Comparison of Present Rate Structure,Premarked
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20 110 Monthly Billing Comparison,Schedule 1 Premarked
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111 Monthly Billing Comparison,Schedule 36 Premarked
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23 112 2006-2009 Complaints and Inquiries Premarked
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113 Complaints and Inquiries by Company Premarked.25 Admit 2204
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1 11/30/09 RMP Billing Statement, 2 pgs114
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4 116 2010 Federal Poverty Level Guidelines
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117 RMP Service Area Map
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7 118 Voices
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119 RMP Advertisement
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10 120 Lend A Hand Envelope
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121 9/28/10 Idaho Power Billing Statement
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13 122 Avista Winter Payment Plan, 2 pgs
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123 Winter Moratorium and Payment Plan
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16 124 RMP Payment Plan Options
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125 Voices
126 Walj e Letter to Editor
127 Homes Weatherized with RMP Funding
128 Residential Energy Efficiency Program,
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129 I PUC Staff Cost of Service Results
130 IPUC Staff Proposal
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132 PacifiCorp Pro Forma Cost of
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201 Schematic, Phosphorus Manufacturing
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8 202 Rate of Return, 2 pgs
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203 Proxy Group
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11 204 Growth Rates
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205 Constant Growth DCF Model
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14 206 Electricity Sales are Linked to US
Economic Growth
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207 Proxy Group Payout Ratios
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17 208 Sustainable Grown Rates, 2 pgs
209 Sustainable Constant Growth DCF Model
210 Mul tistage Growth DCF Model
211 Electric Utility Market/Book Ratio
212 Electric Equity Risk Premium,
Treasury Bond
213 Electric Equity Risk Premium,
Utili ty Bond
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4 216 Value Line Beta Premarked
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217 CAPM Return Premarked
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7 218 Stand & Poor i s Credit Metrics, 4 pgs Premarked
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10 220 Accuracy of Interest Rate Forecasts Premarked
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13 222 Proposed Gateway West Premarked
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16 224 Idaho MEHC Acquisiiton Order No. 29973, Premarkedpgs 6 and 7, 3 pgs Admit 2204
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225 Comparative Investment Per Mile Premarked
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226 Western US Competing Transmission
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227 PacifiCorp Response to Monsanto
Data Request 4.5 Premarked
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228 Qualifications of Widmer, 7 pgs Premarked
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229 History of Monsanto Increases and
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230 Idaho Results with Monsanto
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2311 Summary, Idaho Class Cost of Service
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232 Value of Monsanto Curtailment Based
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234 Confidential
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7 235 8/31/09 Wind Integration Cost Study,
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236 Reserve Shutdown Adj ustment
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301 Forecasted Weather Normalized
Residential Sales versus Actual13
14 302 Change in Residential Customers
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303 PacifiCorp Idaho 2007 Loss Analysis,
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17 304 10/15/09 Letter, Larsen to IIPA, 7 pgs
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4 605 Qualifications of Falkenberg,11 pgs Premarked
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7 607 OPUC Data Request 22,3 pgs Premarked
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10 609 Net Power Costs Workpapers and Premarked
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12 Admit 2204.13 611 ArarenUE Rate Base Schedule,4 pgs Premarked
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1 BOISE, IDAHO, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 2, 2010, 8:35 A.M.
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4 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, Staff's next witness
5 is Cecily Vaughn.
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7 CECILY VAUGHN,
8 produced as a witness at the instance of Staff, being first
9 duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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11 DIRECT EXAMINATION
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14 Q. Ms. Vaughn, could you please state your full name
15 and spell both of your names?
16 A.Cecily -- C-E-C-I-L-Y -- last name Vaughn --
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Q.And for whom do you work and in what capacity?
A.I work for the Idaho Public Utilities Commission
20 as a staff auditor.
21 Q.And in that capacity, did you have occasion to
22 prepare and prefile testimony on October 14th consisting of
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Q.And have you had the occasion to review that
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2 A. Yes.
3 Q.And if I were to ask you the questions set forth
4 in your testimony, would your answers be the same?
5 A.They would.
6 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, I'd ask that
7 Ms. Vaughn's testimony be spread on the record, and the exhibit
8 identified.
9 COMMISSIONER SMITH: If there's no objection, it
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11 (The following prefiled direct testimony
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3 A.My name is Cecily Vaughn. My business address is
4 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho.
5 Q.By whom are you employed and in what capacity?
I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities6A.
7 Commission (Commission) as a senior auditor in the Utilities
8 Division.
9 Q.What is your educational and experience
10 background?
11 A.I graduated from Washington State University in
12 1974 with a Bachelors of Science degree in Veterinary
13 Science i I received my degree as a Doctor of Veterinary
Medicine at the same time. I practiced as a veterinarian in14
15 the State of Washington until approximately 1987. From 1993
16 until 1996 I attended the College of Business and Economics
17 at the University of Arkansas in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
18 From 1996 until 1997 I studied at the College of Business at
19 Boise State University with an emphasis in accounting. I
20 passed the Uniform CPA exam in the fall of 1997 i I am
21 currently a licensed CPA in the State of Idaho.
22 I was employed as a financial analyst by Hewlett
23 Packard from 1998 until 2000. In this position I provided
24 sole financial support for the HP test lab located in Boise,
25 a cost center with an annual budget in excess of $50
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1 million. I was solely responsible for coordinating the
2 semi-annual budgeting process, for developing and
3 implementing the allocation system used to distribute costs
4 to multiple profit centers, and for ensuring that costs
5 incurred were appropriate and met budgetary goals. During
6 this time I also served as inventory analyst for the
7 Personal LaserJet Division, a $2 billion per year profit
8 center. In this role, I was responsible for accurate
9 valuation of worldwide inventory and for removal of
10 intracorporate profit included in inventory value.
11 From 2000 until 2003 I was employed as Grants
12 Accountant (Financial Specialist) for the Center for
13 Geophysical Investigation of the Shallow Subsurface at Boise
14 State UniversitYi I was promoted to Senior Financial
15 Specialist in 2002. In this role, I was responsible for all
16 aspects of grant accounting for the Center, including
17 budgeting, submission, and ensuring that grant funds were
18 expended and accounted for in accordance with funding agency
19 regulations. I also assisted in the preparation of the BSU
20 F&A (Facilities and Administration) request used to set the
21 overhead rate applied to all federal grants awarded the
22 University.
23 I have been employed by the Commission as an
24 auditor since June 2007. I attended the annual regulatory
25 studies program sponsored by the National Association of
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Regulatory Utility Commissioners (NARUC) at Michigan State
University in August 2007.
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Q. What is the primary purpose of your testimony?
A. The purpose of my testimony is to summarize the
adjustments of all Staff members, to present the impact on
. ,the Idaho revenue requirement of each individual's
adjustments, and to develbp the final Idaho revenue
requirement that includes all Staff adjustments. I will
present in detail the specific adjustments that I propose.
Q. How were you able to determine the revenue
requirement effect of each of Staff's recommendations?
A. I determined what accounts in the rate case would
be changed by each adjustment. Using the linked Revenue
Adjustment Model and the Jurisdictional Allocation Model
(RA-JAM), I then determined the effect on revenue
requirement resulting from each adjustment.
Q. Please summarize the final Idaho revenue
requirement and compare that to the revenue requirement
proposed by the Company.
A. The Company requested an Idaho revenue increase of
$17,146,306 or $27,697,872 when grossed up for taxesi this
request resulted in an Idaho revenue increase of 13.66%.
The adjustments proposed by Staff result in an Idaho
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1 deficiency of $9,106,977 or $14,711,2671 when grossed up for
2 taxes i Staf f' s case results in an Idaho required revenue
3 increase of 7.25%. Staff's case reduces the Company
4 proposal by $8,039,329 or $12,986,605 when grossed up for
5 taxesi this represents a 47% reduction to the Idaho revenue
6 increase originally requested by the Company.
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Q.Are you sponsoring any additional testimony?
A.Yes. I reviewed several specific areas of the
9 Company's filing that will be further discussed in my
10 testimony.
11 Q.Would you please summarize your recommendations in
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A. My recommendations affecting revenue requirement
are as follows:
(1) Avian Settlement. In 2009 the Company and the
u. S. Attorney for Wyoming reached an agreement
associated with increasing protection for wildlife
habitat in and around the Company's transmission and
distribution assets. The Company requested recovery of
$500,000 in O&M expense and $1,352,283 in rate base
related to this agreement. I believe the $500,000 is a
non-recurring O&M expense and recommend the $500,000 be
removed from the current test year expenses. This
1 The difference between this revenue requirement of $14,711,267 and the
$14,802,287 shown in other Staff testimonies is due to the $1,603,785 adjustment
recommended by Staff witness Donn English.
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reduces the revenue requirement by $500,000 on a system
basis, thus reducing the Idaho revenue requirement by
$26,961. In addition, I believe the $1,352,283 in
transmission facility improvement should not be added
to rate base in this case since the accumulation of
minor transmission improvements falls below the
$5,000,000 threshold for pro-formed 2010 major plant
additions. This rate base reduction results in a
reduction to Idaho revenue requirement of $6,339.
(2) Bridger Coal Stripping. In Case No. PAC-E-09-08,
the Company filed for an Accounting Order authorizing
the Company to record, as a regulatory asset, the costs
associated with the removal of overburden and waste
materials at its affiliate coal mines. In January
2010, the Commission authorized the Company in Order
No. 30987 to record the removal costs as a regulatory
asset associated with its fuel account. Because this
regulatory asset was created by a change in accounting
procedures (EITF-04-6), I believe it would be
inappropriate for the asset to accrue a carrying charge
subsequent to inclusion in base rates. Therefore, I
recommend removing $1,169,114 from rate baseithis
adjustment decreases Idaho revenue requirement by
$6,133.
(3) Medicare Subsidy. On March 23, 2010, the Patient
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into law. The Act, including a subsequent amendment to
the Act (the amendment is known as the Health Care and
Education Reconciliation Act signed into law
March 30, 2010), changes the deductibility of certain
costs incurred for post-retirement prescription drug
coverage. In Case No. PAC-E-10-04, the Company filed
for an accounting Order authorizing the Company to
create a regulatory asset and amortize the expenses
associated with the change in deductibility of retiree
drug benefits resulting from passage of the PPACA. In
this case, the Company calculated the amortization for
2011 to be $209,966. Staff believes that this amount
should be reduced by $4,999 because the Company
calculated the tax impact from January 1, 2010, rather
than from March 31, 2010 when the Act went into effect.
Because this was a situs allocation, this reduces Idaho
revenue requirement by $4,999.
Q.Are you sponsoring any Exhibits?
Yes, I am sponsoring Staff Exhibit No. 108.A.
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Q.Please summarize the case filed by the Company.
A.On a system basis, the Company reported
24 $4,117,757,655 in operating revenues, $3,386,414,150 in
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This resulted in an unadjusted return on rate base of
7.1499%. See Exhibit No. 108, Column (a).
On an Idaho basis, the Company reported
$261,796,035 in operating revenues, $223,164,426 in
operating expenses, and a rate base of $667,459,415. This
resulted in an unadjusted return on rate base of 5.7879%.
The Company requested 10.6% return on equity which resulted
in a request for an 8.3568% overall return on rate base.
Applying this return to the reported rate base, the Company
needed operating revenues of $55,777,9.15 in order to achieve
the requested rate of return. Since the Company reported
actual net operating revenues for return of $38,631,609,
this resulted in a revenue requirement of $17,146,306 or
$27,697,872 when grossed up for taxes. The Idaho revenue
requirement requested by the Company is a 13.66% increase
over current base rates. See Exhibit No. 108, Column (b).
Q. Please describe the Staff adjustment shown in
Exhibit No. 108, Column (c).
A. Staff witness Terri Carlock is sponsoring the
adjustment shown in Exhibit No. 108, Column (c). This
adjustment shows a decrease in the return on equity from the
10.6% requested by the Company to 10.0%. This results in a
decrease in revenue requirement of $2,167,989 (line 67) or
$3,502,135 when grosse? up for taxes (line 69). The impact
of this adjustment is to decrease revenue requirement by
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1. 73 % ( line 70).
Q. Please describe the Staff adjustments shown in
Exhibit No. lOS, Column (d).
A. Staff witnesses Marilyn Parker and Donn English
are sponsoring the adjustments shown in Exhibit No. 108,
Column (d). Staff witness Parker is sponsoring an imputed
revenue increase of $90,000 (line 2) from untimely
disconnect of power when properties are vacant. This
adjustment is discussed in detail in Staff witness Parker's
direct testimony.
Staff witness English is sponsoring several
adjustments. The largest adjustment reduces Operating and
Maintenance Expense (O&M) by removing wage, incentive,
benefit, and pension increases from 2009 and 2010 ¡this
adjustment equals $70,954,556 on a system basis and
$4,079,517 when allocated to Idaho. This adjustment is
spread across multiple accounts and is shown in lines 9-1S.
Other smaller adjustments to imputed revenue (line 5),
property tax (line 24), and the Affiliate Management Fee
(line lS) further reduce revenue requirement. These
adjustments are discussed in detail in Staff witness
English's direct testimony.
Staff witness English proposes an additional
adjustment to injuries and damages of $l,603,7S5 on a system
basis and $90,728 on an Idaho basis. This adjustment is
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discussed in detail by Staff witness English in his
testimony and is reflected in the Idaho revenue requirement
of $14,711,267 shown on Exhibit No. 108, Column (j),
line 69. However, this adjustment is not included in the
testimonies and exhibits of other Staff witnessesi and this
adjustment is not considered in the cost of service or rate
design recommendations.
The adjustments proposed by Staff witnesses Parker
and English increase operating revenues on an Idaho basis by
$97 i 826 (line 6) and reduce operating.expenses on an Idaho
basis by $2,499,892 (line 31). These adjustments result in
a decrease in revenue requirement of $2,600,250 (line 67) or
$4,200,403 when grossed up for taxes (line 69). The impact
of these adjustments is to decrease the Idaho revenue
requirement by 2.03% (line 70) .
Q. Please describe the Staff adjustment shown in
Exhibit No. 108, Column (e).
A. Staff witness Bryan Lanspery is sponsoring the
adjustment shown in Exhibit No. 108, Column (e). He
proposes adjustments to Net Power Costs (NPC), and are
discussed in detail in Mr. Lanspery's direct testimony. The
NPC adjustments decrease NPC on a system basis by
$40,903,589 and on an Idaho basis by $2,512,922 (line 20
minus line 4). These adjustments result in a decrease in
Idaho revenue requirement of $1,560,189 (line 67) or
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2 of this adjustment is to decrease the Idaho revenue
3 requirement by 1.24% (line 70) .
4 Q.Please describe the Staff adjustment shown in
5 Exhibit No. 108, Column (f).
6 A.Staff witnesses Randy Lobb and Joe Leckie are
7 sponsoring the adjustment shown in Exhibit No. 108, Column
8 (f). The majority of the adjustments reduce rate base and
9 are discussed in detail in Mr. Lobb's and Mr. Leckie's
10 testimonies. The amount of the Popul~s-Terminal
11 transmission line included for return on rate base is
12 reduced by 50% as proposed by Mr. Lobb. This results in a
13 rate base decrease of $400,765,483 on a system basis and
14 $23,444,781 on an Idaho basis (the majority of lines 36 and
15 37). Several other rate base items, including the Dunlap I
16 Wind Project and other rate base updates, are reduced by a
17 total of $34,976,054 on a system basis and $2,046,099 on an
18 Idaho basis (included in lines 36 and 37). Also, the coal
19 stockpile inventory is reduced by $15,970,759 on a system
20 basis or $1,015,344 on an Idaho basis (line 42). In
21 addi tion to the rate base adj ustments, Mr. Leckie proposes a
22 reduction to generation overhaul expense, reducing O&M by
23 $662,119 on a system basis and $49,154 on an Idaho basis
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2 (line 20) and reduce Idaho rate base by $25,028,230 (line
3 61). These adjustments result in a decrease in revenue
4 requirement of $1,801,208 (line 67) or $2,909,643 when
5 grossed up for taxes (line 69). The impact of this
6 adj ustment is to decrease the Idaho revenue requirement by
7 1. 43 % ( line 70).
8 Q.Please describe the Staff adjustment shown in
9 Exhibit No. 108, Column (g).
10 A.I am sponsoring the adj ustments shown in Exhibit
11 No. 108, Column (g), and I will discuss these adjustments in
12 detail in my direct testimony to follow. In summary, my
13 adj ustments result in a decrease in Idaho revenue
14 requirement of $30,974 (line 67) or $50,035 when grossed up
15 for taxes (line 69). The impact of these adjustments is to
16 decrease revenue requirement by 0.02% (line 70).
17 Q.Please describe the Staff adjustment shown in
18 Exhibi t No. 108, Column (h).
19 A.Staff witness Terri Carlock is sponsoring the
20 adjustments shown in Exhibit No. 108, Column (h). These
21 adjustments result from treating the Idaho Irrigation Load
22 Control costs as power supply expense and reversing the
23 irrigator load decrement from normalized to actual loads.
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affects the adjustment amount of nearly every account.
These adjustments are discussed in detail in Staff witness
Carlock's direct testimony.
On an Idaho basis, this adj ustment increases
operating revenues by $4,191,848 (line 6), increases total
operating expenses by $1,095,478 (line 31), and increases
rate base by $40,095,425 (line 61). This results in an
increase in revenue requirement of $65,116 (line 67) or
$105,188 when grossed up for taxes (line 69). The impact of
this adjustment is to increase revenue requirement by 0.05%
(line 70).
Q. Please summarize the final Idaho revenue
requirement and compare that to the revenue requirement
proposed by the Company.
A. As shown in Exhibit No. 108, Column (b), the
Company requested an Idaho revenue increase of $17,146,306
(line 67) or $27,697,872 (line 69) when grossed up for
taxes i this request resulted in an Idaho revenue increase of
13.66% (line 70). As shown in Exhibit No. 108, Column (j),
the adjustments proposed by Staff result in an Idaho revenue
requirement of $9,106,977 (line 67) or $14,711,267 (line 69)
when grossed up for taxesi Staff's case results in an Idaho
required revenue increase of 7.25% (line 70). Staff's case
reduces the Company proposal by $8,039,329 or $12,986,605
when grossed up for taxes i this is a 47% reduction in Idaho
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revenue requirement increase originally requested by the
Company.
Q. Please describe the adj ustments you recommend in
Exhibit No. 108, Column (g).
A. These adj ustments are discussed below.
AVIAN SETTLENT
Q. Please describe the nature of the Avian
Settlement.
A. In 2009 the Company and the U. S. Attorney for
Wyoming agreed to settle Case No. 09CR1 74 -B that was filed
wi th the United States District Court for the District of
Wyoming. Under the terms of the agreement, PacifiCorp
agreed to increase protection for wildlife habitat in and
around the Company's transmission and distribution assets.
In addition, the Company agreed to provide funds to various
wildlife agencies in Wyoming as well as Idaho, Utah and
Montana to support improvements to design and the
construction of avian-safe power lines.
Q. What were the Company adjustments associated with
the Avian Settlement?
A. The Company requested recovery of $500,000 for
injuries and damages related to Case No. 09CR174-B. I
believe this is a non-recurring expense that should be
removed from expenses for rate setting purposes. This
reduces the revenue requirement by $500,000 on a system
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3 Q.Were there any other adjustments associated with
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5 A.Yes. The Company requested an adjustment to rate
6 base of $1,352,283 for capital improvements of existing
7 power lines. The Company argues that these improvements
8 will benefit customers by protecting wild life habitat and
9 reducing avian related outages. See Company witness
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11 Q.Do you agree with the Company's request?
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21 improvements are reasonable, I believe this addition to rate
22 base is premature and should not be included for the
23 following reasons. First, because of the diverse nature of
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service is neither known nor measurable. In addition, the
amount requested is pro-formed for 2010 and falls far below
the $5,000,000 threshold used to include maj or plant
additions expected to be placed in service during 2010.
Therefore, I believe the $1,352,283 should be removed from
rate base for this case, and this type of capital
improvement be included in the next general rate case. My
adjustment results in a rate base decrease for Idaho in the
amount of $79,860 and a reduction in depreciation expense of
$1,605 i the revenue requirement for Idaho decreases by
$8,194.
EITF-04-6: BRIDGER COAL STRIPPING AMORTIZATION
Q. Please describe the Bridger Coal Stripping
Amortization.
A. In Case No. PAC-E-09-08, the Company filed for an
Accounting Order authorizing the Company to record, as a
regulatory asset, the costs associated with the removal of
overburden and waste materials at its affiliate coal mines.
In January 2010, the Commission authorized the Company in
Order No. 30987 to record the removal costs as a regulatory
asset associated with its fuel account. The costs
associated with coal stripping were to be expensed through
Account 501, Fuel Expense, as the coal was extracted from
the mine and placed in inventory.
Q. Has the Company proposed an adjustment associated
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with the Bridger Coal Stripping Amortization?
A. Yes. The Company has added $1,169,114 to system
rate base for the costs related to coal strippingi $74,327
of this amount is allocated to Idaho.
Q. Do you agree with the Company's adjustment?
A. No. In its original filing, the Company did not
request a carrying charge on the regulatory asset associated
wi th mine stripping costs. I believe a carrying charge is
not justified or required. Because this regulatory asset is
created by a change in accounting procedures, I believe
recovery of the costs through a regulatory asset is adequate
and it is inappropriate for the asset to be included in rate
base or accrue a carrying charge. Therefore I recommend
that $1,169,114 be removed from rate base at the system
level, resulting in a reduction of rate base allocated to
Idaho of $74,327. This adjustment reduces the Idaho revenue
requirement by $6,133.
MEDICA SUBSIDY
Q. Please describe the Medicare Subsidy Amortization.
A. In the Medicare Modernization Act (MM) of 2003,
the federal government provided a 28 percent subsidy to
companies that provided a retiree drug discount. Subsequent
to negotiations related to the MM, companies were allowed
to deduct 100 percent of the cost of the drug benefit
provided to their retirees even though the companies were
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paying only 72 percent of the benefits.
On March 23, 2010, the Patient Protection and
Affordable Care Act (PPACA) was signed into law. Due to
provisions included in the PPACA, including a subsequent
amendment (the amendment is known as the Health Care and
Education Reconciliation Act signed into law March 30,
2010), the portion of the expense offset by. the 28 percent
subsidy is no longer deductible for tax purposes. Companies
may deduct only the net amount of the drug costs.
Therefore, companies must reduce the post-retirement benefit
obligation on the balance sheet by the amount of the
actuarially-determined subsidy to be received.
In Case No. PAC-E-10-04, the Company filed for an
Accounting Order authorizing the Company to record, as a
regulatory asset, the tax expense associated with enactment
of the PPACAi in addition, the Company requested that they
be allowed to amortize the expense over a four-year period
beginning January 1, 2011. In July 2010, the Commission
authorized the Company in Order No. 32028 to record costs
associated with the PPACA as a regulatory asset and to
amortize the expense over a four-year period beginning
January 1, 2011.
Q. Has the Company proposed an adjustment associated
with the Medicare Subsidy (PPACA) amortization?
A. Yes. The Company has proposed to expense $209,996
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Q. Does you propose an adjustment to the Company
adjustment?
A. Yes. The amount of the adjustment was calculated
as of January 1, 2010. However, the PPACA and the
subsequent amendment did not go into effect until March 31,
2010. In response to an audit request from Staff, the
Company calculated the amount of the adjustment effective
March 31, 2010 as $819,988 to be amortized over four years,
or $204,997 per year. Because this amount was calculated on
an Idaho basis, this results in a Staff adjustment of $4,999
to Idaho expense ($209,996 - $204,997 = $4,999) and an
equi valent reduction to Idaho revenue requirement.
Q. Does this conclude your direct testimony in this
proceeding?
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3 MR. WOODBURY: And I would present Ms. Vaughn for
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5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Otto, do you have
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7 MR. OTTO: I do not.
8 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Olsen.
9 MR. OLSEN: No, Madam Chairman.
10 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Williams.
11 MR. WILLIAMS: No, Madam Chairman.
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COMMISSIONER SMITH:Budge?
MR.BUDGE:No.
COMMISSIONER SMITH:Company?
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COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Nor I..
Thank you, Ms. Vaughn.
THE WITNESS: You're welcome.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Appreciate your help.
THE WITNESS: Wow.
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6 MR. HICKEY: Timing is everything.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Woodbury.
8 MR. WOODBURY: Staff's next witness is
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4 A.That's correct.
5 Q.And you filed that testimony on October 14th?
6 A.Right.
7 Q.And have you had the occasion prior to this
8 hearing to review that testimony and exhibits?
9 A.Yes.
10 Q.And if I were to ask you the questions set forth
11 in your testimony, would your answers be the same?
12 A.Yes.
13 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, I would ask that
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16 COMMISSIONER SMITH: If there's no objection, it
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Q. By whom are you employed and in what capacity?
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Commission as a Utilities Compliance Investigator. I
accepted that position with the Consumer Assistance Staff
in November 2002.
Q. What is your educational and professional
background?
A. Prior to my employment with the Idaho Public
Utilities Commission, I had twenty years experience
working in private industry for three different utility
companies. In 1973 and 1974, I was employed by Central
Alaska Utilities, a water company in Anchorage, Alaska, as
the Executive Secretary to the President of the company.
From 1982 until 1987, I was employed as a Customer Service
Representative for Idaho Power Company in Salmon, Idaho.
From February 1989 until November 2002, I was employed by
Intermountain Gas Company in Customer Services. During my
last six years at Intermountain Gas, I supervised
representatives at the Customer Service Center's Emergency
Answering Service.
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3 In June 2003 and June 2006, I attended the
4 National Low Income Energy Consortium Anual Conference in
5 Sacramento, California and Washington, D. C., respectively.
6 Q.Have you previously testified before the
7 Commission?
8 A.Yes, I have.
9 Q.What is the purpose of your testimony in this
10 proceeding?
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12 customer comments received by the Idaho Public Utilities
13 Commission regarding this casei (2) Rocky Mountain Power's
14 (RMP) customer relationsi (3) RMP's Landlord Programi (4)
15 RMP's rebilling policYi and (5) RMP's policy of leaving
16 meters on between customers and the resulting unbilled
17 usage.
18 Q.Please summarize your testimony and
19 recommendations to the Commission.
20 A.I reviewed customers' comments regarding the
21 proposed rate increase. Customers are unhappy with the
22 prospect of another rate hike, especially in light of the
23 current economic conditions in eastern Idaho. I reviewed
24 the Company's call center telephone answering statistics
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relatively low number of customer complaints filed with
the IPUC in 2009.
With respect to the Company's Landlord Program,
I recommend that RMP review its policy of allowing
landlords to submit applications for service to the
Company on behalf of their tenants and report its findings
to the Commission Staff no later than 60 days following
issuance of the Commission's final order in this case.
Staff also recommends that RMP retain the Application for
Service form for a minimum of four years so that it will
be available for review in the event there is a dispute
later regarding responsibility for bill payment.
I discuss my concerns regarding RMP's procedures
for rebilling customers whose meters failed or whose bills
were prepared inaccurately. I make several
recommendations to improve communication with customers
and improve the accuracy of billing estimates. I also
recommend that within 60 days of the final date of the
Commission's order in this case, the Company meet with
Staff to discuss how its rebilling policy can be revised.
I recommend that RMP discontinue its practice of
routinely allowing service to remain connected between
customers. I recommend that the Commission direct RMP to
develop a policy that discourages energy waste, reduces
unbilled revenue, improves billing accuracy by reducing
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the number of estimated bills, and manages the Company's
resources in a cost-effective manner.
Customer Comments Regarding the Proposed Rate Increase
Q. Have you reviewed the written customer comments
that have been received by the Commission regarding this
case?
A. Yes, as of September 29, 2010, 56 customers had
commented on the case. More than one-half of those
commenting were on the Time-of-Use (TOU) Schedule 36,
which is a residential rate that allows customers to
receive a lower rate when electric consumption is moved to
"off peak" time periods. These TOU customers were upset
because RMP is proposing to raise their rate by 15.6%,
almost double the percentage increase proposed for
residential rate Schedule 1. The perception by many of
the TOU customers is that RMP was, for some reason,
punishing them. One-half of those commenting also
mentioned the bad timing of the requested rate increase
and cited poor economic conditions as a reason that the
increase in rates should be denied.
Many customers suggested that the utility needs
to tighten its own belt first before asking its customers
to pick up the extra money it needs. Other comments were
from low and fixed income customers worried about another
increase in rates and how they would be able to pay any
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more money for electricity than they are already paying.
Q. Has the Staff considered the concerns expressed
by customers?
A. Yes, the Staff shares the concerns expressed by
customers regarding energy affordability, rate design, and
the Company's efforts to control costs. Staff witnesses
discuss reduction of Company expenses and investments to
control cost and make energy more affordable. Staff also
proposes modifications to revenue spread and rate design
to better assure equity among customers.
Customer Relations
\Q. What is RMP's current telephone Customer Service
Level?
A. Customer Service Level is the percent of calls a
utility answers within a specified length of time. RMP's
service level goal is to answer 80% of its calls within 30
seconds. This service level is one of the Customer
Service Performance Standards established in PAC-E-04-07.
RMP consistently has met or exceeded its performance
targets over time. Since 2007, RMP has reached 85% or
better in one-third of the months. It has averaged more
than 80% in each year. In only one month in the past
three years did RMP drop below 80%, and in that month
(January 2007) RMP had a service level of 79%. Overall,
in the past three years, RMP has maintained commendable
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Q. What were the total number of complaints and
inquiries filed with the IPUC's Consumer Assistance Staff
in 2009?
A. The Consumer Assistance Staff received 43
complaints and 8 inquiries for a combined total of 51
contacts with RMP's customers in 2009. Of the 43
complaints received, two-thirds involved either credit and
collection issues (e.g., deposits, disconnections, payment
arrangements) or billing issues (e.g. ~ high bills,
rebilling, billing at the wrong rate, line item charges) .
Q. How does this compare to prior years?
A. The number of complaints and inquiries decreased
from 72 in 2008 to 51 in 2009. In 2007, there were 62
complaints and inquiries and in 2006 there were 34. See
Staff Exhibit No. 112.
Q. In 2009, how does RMP' s total number of
complaints and inquiries filed with the IPUC's Consumer
Assistance Staff compare with other major regulated energy
companies in Idaho?
A. On a per one-thousand customer basis, Rocky
Mountain Power had the lowest number of complaints and
inquiries. In three of the last four years, Rocky
Mountain has had fewer complaints and inquiries than the
other three companies. See Staff Exhibit No. 113.
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2 Landlord Program
3 Q.Please briefly describe RMP's Landlord Program.
4 A.RMP calls its program the uLandlord Interim
5 Billing Agreement". When a landlord signs up for this
6 program, the landlord can choose to have electric service
7 at his or her rental properties transfer automatically
8 into the landlord's name when a tenant discontinues
9 service. In those situations, if the landlord has the
10 Landlord Interim Billing Agreement in -place, the
11 electricity is not physically disconnected when the tenant
12 moves out. At that point, the tenant's account is closed
13 and a final bill is prepared for the tenant. The
14 financial responsibility then transfers to the landlord on
15 the date the tenant requested to be disconnected. From
16 that point forward, the landlord is the responsible party
17 for service until a new tenant moves in and assumes
18 financial responsibility. There is no charge to the
19 landlord for transferring service into or out of the
20 landlord's name.
21 Q.What are the benefits of a Landlord Program?
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24 moves out and requests disconnection of service during the
25 winter. Another benefit is that it allows electricity to
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stay on between tenants, allowing landlords to clean and
perform maintenance on the premises after a tenant has
moved out and show the property to prospective tenants.
Q. Does Staff have any concerns regarding RMP's
Landlord Program?
A. Yes. RMP allows landlords to obtain a tenant's
Application for Service from the tenant and submit it by
fax to RMP. Staff is concerned that RMP may not have
proof in some situations that the tenant has granted
permission to the landlord to submit billing and signup
information on the tenant's behalf or that the information
provided is accurate. Staff believes the best practice is
one where the utility communicates directly with the
person who will be financially responsible for the
billing. Accepting Applications for Service from third
parties is a questionable business practice. Staff is
also concerned that RMP may not have adequate checks and
balances in place to meet the requirements of the Federal
Trade Commission's (FTC) "Red Flag Rule".
Q. What is the FTC's Red Flag Rule?
A. The FTC issued regulations (the Red Flag Rule)
requiring financial institutions and creditors to develop
and implement written identity theft prevention programs
as part of the Fair and Accurate Credit Transactions Act
of 2003. A program must provide for the identification,
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detection, and response to patterns, practices or specific
acti vi ties known as "red flags" that could indicate
identity theft. The Red Flag Rule applies to creditors
that defer paYments for goods or services. Because
utilities bill customers after services are provided, they
are considered creditors.
Q. Does Staff have any recommendations regarding
the Company's policy of accepting Applications for Service
from landlords on behalf of tenants?
A. Yes. Staff recommends that _the Company review
its policy to make sure that the information it obtains
from landlords is accurate and is provided with the full
knowledge and permission of tenants as well as to insure
compliance with the Red Flag Rule. The Company's findings
should be reported to the Commission Staff no later than
60 days following issuance of the Commission's final order
in this case. Staff also recommends that RMP retain the
Application for Service form for a minimum of four years
so that it will be available for review in the event there
is a dispute later regarding responsibility for bill
paYment.
Rebilling in Accordance with the Idaho Public Utili ties
Commission's Utility Customer Relations Rule 204 (UCRR)
Q. What concerns did Staff identify in its
investigation of RMP's procedure to rebill its customers
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when a customer's bill is prepared inaccurately due to
reasons such as a meter malfunction or metering equipment
that was incorrectly installed or programmed?
A. RMP does not follow an obj ecti ve or
independently verifiable methodology when preparing
estimated bills. Its process entails using electric
consumption at the premises from prior years to establish
electric usage trends in its rebilling calculation. RMP
does not apply a weather normalization factor based on
Heating or Cooling Degree Days obtained from the National
Weather Service. To come up with its estimate of the
amount of electricity the customer used, RMP compares
electric usage trends of other residents in the
neighborhood during the same time period.
Q. Why does Staff believe the current method of
rebilling employed by RMP is problematic?
A. Staff believes there are more accurate ways to
prepare corrected billings. Both Avista Utilities and
Intermountain Gas Company have implemented rebilling
mechanisms that have been accepted by Commission Staff.
Both Avista Utilities and Intermountain Gas employ in
their methodologies, among other factors, the National
Weather Service's Heating and Cooling Degree Days tailored
to specific regions of their service territories. Unlike
usage data gathered from a customer's neighbors, this
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weather data is both objective and verifiable.
Q. Does RMP adequately communicate with customers
whose meters malfunctioned and who will be rebilled?
A. No. RMP told Staff it informs those customers
who will be rebilled by means of the customers' billing
statements. However, it is Staff's opinion that the
brief, non-descript message on the statement is not an
acceptable explanation. The billing statement is usually
the first notification the customer receives indicating
that some of the previous months' bills have been wrong.
RMP's current procedure is to print a brief message on the
customer's bill stating that the customer should call RMP
for an explanation of the added charges if the customer
desires additional information. Staff Exhibit No.114 is a
redacted copy of a customer's bill.
Q. What suggestions does Staff have for improving
RMP's rebilling policy?
A. At a minimum, Staff recommends that each
affected customer be sent a letter of explanation along
wi th a spreadsheet comparing usage and dollars previously
billed with the estimated usage and rebilled dollar
amount. This information should be mailed out prior to
the actual rebilling by the Company. This provides the
customer an opportunity to contact the Company if there
are any questions or disagreement with the usage estimate.
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2 necessary before the customer is actually billed, thereby
3 avoiding the additional step of having to prepare a
4 revised rebilling statement. Staff also recommends that
5 the Company attempt to contact the customer by phone if
6 the rebilling covers more than a three-month period or is
7 for a significant dollar amount. This would allow the
8 customer to discuss with the Company any unusual
9 circumstances that might affect the rebilling. Currently,
10 RMP calls the customer if the rebilled amount is more than
11 $10,000 i Staff believes the threshold should be much
12 lower.
13 Staff recommends that the letter of explanation
14 make it clear to the customer that in accordance with UCRR
15 204, payment arrangements are available for a period of
16 time that may extend to the length of time that the
17 underbilled amount accrued or the customer was not billed.
18 Staff recommends RMP meet with Staff within 60
19 days from the date of the final order in this case to
20 discuss development of acceptable policies with respect to
21 estimating usage and rebilling.
22 Unbilled Usage Due to Leaving Service Connected
23 Q.What is RMP's policy regarding allowing service
24 to remain connected between customers?
25 A.RMP does not routinely physically disconnect
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1 service when a customer closes an account. As a result,
2 energy continues to be used even though there is no
3 customer to bill for that usage.
4 Q.What is RMP's justification for this policy?
5 A.RMP maintains that most premises are only vacant
6 for a few days between customers. According to the
7 Company, by not disconnecting service after a customer
8 discontinues service, RMP saves the time of service
9 technicians and vehicle mileage associated with having to
10 disconnect and subsequently reconnect _service within a
11 relatively short period of time. From the Company's point
12 of view, the dollar savings in employee time and vehicle
13 mileage outweigh the lost revenue associated with the
14 unbilled energy.
15 Q.What did Staff find in its investigation of this
16 policy?
17 A.The presumed net benefit of RMP's policy of not
18 disconnecting service may be more myth than fact. Staff
19 found that in many instances, not much time and mileage,
20 if any, was saved. The Company continues to send a
21 technician to the premises monthly to read the meter.
22 When unbilled usage at a premise exceeds 1,000 kWh, a
23 technician is dispatched to disconnect the meter. In
24 those instances where the threshold is reached, the
25 Company does not save any time and mileage costs because a
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technician eventually had to be dispatched to turn off the
meter anyway, and a technician eventually would have been
required to turn the meter back on when a new customer
established service. Not only does RMP not save the time
and mileage costs in those instances, it loses a
considerable amount of revenue for electricity that went
unbilled.
Q. Has RMP's threshold always been 1,000 kilowatt
hours?
A. No. Until a few years ago, ..the threshold was
400 kWh. This means that during a time period of
increasing upward pressure on rates, the Company more than
doubled the amount of energy and associated revenue it was
willing to lose before taking action.
Q. How much energy goes unbilled due to RMP' s
policy?
A.. In 2009, there were 835 instances where usage
exceeded 1,000 kWh, meaning at least 835,000 kWh was
unbilled. The majority of affected accounts were
residential. At RMP' scurrent average residential rate,
that is a minimum retail loss in revenue of $75,818. The
Company did not identify how much additional energy was
used in excess of the 1,000 kWh threshold before it
actually disconnected service, nor did it provide the
total amount of unbilled usage attributable to situations
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2 new customer signed up for service. Staff estimates that
3 in excess of 1,000,000 kWh goes unbilled annually due to
4 this policy. Based on the current average residential
5 rate, more than $90,000 in revenue was foregone by the
6 Company in 2009.
7 Q.What other concerns were found regarding RMP's
8 meter reading and billing policies as they pertain to
9 leaving meters connected between customers?
10 A.Staff questioned RMP regarding the meter reading
11 it uses for billing purposes when an account is opened and
12 closed if a technician is not sent to the premises to
13 obtain a meter reading. RMP stated that it uses the
actual monthly cyclical meter reading obtained on the14
15 regular meter reading day to estimate a beginning or
16 ending read when a customer requests connection or
17 disconnection within five days of the regular monthly
18 meter reading date. Affected customers are billed based
19 on estimated rather than actual usage.
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21 disconnection outside of this ten day window (five days
22 before or after a regular meter reading), RMP sends a
23 technician out to obtain a reading. In other words, in 20
24 out of 30 days in a billing cycle, there are no savings in
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meter reading had to be obtained.
Q. Why is Staff concerned about this policy at this
time?
A. When this policy was implemented, energy rates
were lower than they are today and RMP was not capaci ty-
constrained. Now, customers are constantly reminded about
the importance of using energy wisely. RMP has a number
of programs in place to encourage energy efficiency and
conservation. RMP sends mixed messages to customers when
it encourages conservation on one hand and on the other
hand, leaves service connected when there is no customer
paying for or beneficially using the energy being
delivered to the premises. Staff recommends that the
Commission direct RMP to develop a policy that discourages
energy waste, reduces unbilled usage, improves billing
accuracy by reducing the number of estimated bills, and
manages the Company's workforce and equipment in a cost-
effective manner. Staff is willing to work with the
Company to devise an acceptable policy.
Q. Is Staff recommending that the Company
immediately dispatch an employee to read a meter or
disconnect service when a customer establishes or
discontinues service?
A. No. The Company needs a reasonable length of
time to respond to a customer's request. For residential
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and small commercial customers, a work completion interval
of up to three calendar days is reasonable in the maj ori ty
of c ircums tances . An interval of up to five calendar days
is reasonable for those situations where weather, the
customer's remote location, or some other out-of-the-
ordinary issue may delay work. For other types of
customers, e. g., irrigation customers, a work completion
interval of up to ten calendar days would be reasonable.
Staff believes these intervals are realistic based on
Idaho Power's reported success in using these same
intervals to manage its performance.
Q. Does RMP employ any of the newer advanced meter
reading technologies?
A. No. RMP has limited technical capability at
this time. Currently, RMP has approximately 16,000
residential and commercial meters that can be read by its
meter readers with handheld devices. However, obtaining
those meter readings still requires a meter reader to be
near the meter to operate the electronic device.
Approximately 57,000 meters in Idaho are still read by a
meter reader standing in front of the meter.
Q. Would newer metering technologies solve some of
the metering and billing issues raised by Staff?
A. Yes, many of the issues mentioned would be less
problematic and in some cases eliminated with advanced
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2 however, RMP has no immediate plans to upgrade its meters
3 to allow for remote meter reading or remote disconnection
4 and reconnection of service.
5 Q.If RMP is required to disconnect service wi thin
6 a reasonable interval after a customer discontinues
7 service, won't this increase workload and expense to the
8 Company?
9 A.As Staff pointed out earlier, the Company may
10 not be saving as much time and money as it believes bý
11 leaving meters on between customers. To the extent that
12 RMP's costs do increase, there are ways in which the
13 Company can recover at least a portion of its costs
14 directly from customers who are causing those costs.
15 Both Idaho Power and Intermountain Gas assess an
16 account initiation fee when a new account is opened to
17 help cover the costs associated with connecting and
18 disconnecting meters. Currently, RMP customers are not
19 charged an account initiation fee if an account is opened
20 during regular working hours. Based on the total number
21 of RMP accounts opened in 2009, which includes accounts
22 that required an actual connection of the meter as well as
23 those accounts that did not require an actual meter
24 connection but required a reading or estimated reading to
25 complete the transfer of service, the Company would have
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received approximately $288,000 in additional revenue if
it had in place a $20 account initiation fee.
Q. What do the other regulated gas and electric
companies in Idaho charge residential customers to open an
account?
A. Idaho Power's fee is $20 for accounts initiated
during working hours and Intermountain's fee is $14 for
accounts opened during regular office hours. Avista
Utilities is currently considering implementation of such
a charge.
Q. Does this conclude your direct testimony in this
proceeding?
A. Yes, it doe s .
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3 MR. WOODBURY: And I would present Ms. Parker for
4 cross-examination.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy.
6 MR. PURDY: No. Thank you.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Williams.
8 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
9 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Olsen.
10 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
11 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Otto. Budge.
12 MR. BUDGE: No questions.
13 COMMISSIONER SMITH: For the Company.
14 MR. SOLANDER: No questions.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: How about from the
16 Commissioners?
17 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No.
18 COMMISSIONER KEMPTON: Absolutely not.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you, Ms. Parker.
THE WITNESS: That was too easy.
(The witness left the stand.)
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Woodbury.
MR. WOODBURY: Staff's next witness is
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8 Q.Mr. Thaden, will you please state your name and
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10 A.Curtis Thaden: C-U-R-T-I-S, T-H-A-D-E-N.
11 Q.And for whom do you work and in what capacity?
12 A.Idaho Public Utilities Commission as a utility
13 compliance investigator.
14 Q.And in that capacity, did you have occasion to
15 prefile on October 14th direct testimony consisting of 28
16 pages, and 13 exhibits, 115 through 128?
17 A.Yes, I did.
18 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: Is your speaker on?
19 MR. WOODBURY: Thank you, Commissioner.
Q.BY MR. WOODBURY: And have you had the
21 opportuni ty to review that testimony and exhibits prior to this
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Q.And if I were to ask you the questions set forth
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Q. Please state your name and business address
for the record.
A. My name is Curtis Thaden. My business address
is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho.
Q. By whom are you employed and in what capacity?
A. I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities
Commission as a Utili ties Compliance Investigator. I
accepted that position with the Consumer Assistance Staff
in July 2007.
Q. What is your professional- and educational
background?
A. Prior to my employment with the Idaho Public
Utili ties Commission, I had eighteen years experience
working in private industry for Hewlett Packard in a
variety of manufacturing positions. I received an
Associate of Science Degree in Electronic Engineering
Technology from Links School of Business (now known as ITT
Technical Institute) in Boise, Idaho, in September of 1983.
Addi tiona1ly, I am a licensed real estate agent in the
State of Idaho.
Q. Have you previously testified before the
Commission?
A. Yes, I have.
Q. What is the purpose of your testimony in this
proceeding?
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A. I will be addressing the following:
(1) demographics of the 13 Idaho counties in Rocky Mountain
Power's (RMP) service territoryi (2) factors affecting
customers' ability to pay their billsi (3) programs
offering financial assistance to RMP's Idaho customersi
(4) programs, payment plans and payment arrangements
offered by RMP to its customersi (5) energy conservation
education for low income customersi and (6) Low-Income
Weatherization and other Energy Efficiency Programs.
Q. Please summarize your recommendations to the
Commission as discussed in your testimony.
A. Staff recommends that the Commission:
(1) direct Rocky Mountain Power to ensure that the Company
more effectively communicates information regarding the
Idaho MoratOrium and the Winter Payment Plan to its
customers by revising its annual Customer Information
brochure and providing .bi11 inserts with disconnect
notices i 2) encourage the Company to increase funding for
the Lend-A-Hand program by making changes to the way
customers can contribute i 3) direct Staff to convene a
workshop to examine how best to provide energy conservation
education to low income customers ¡and 4) provide no
additional funding for low income energy conservation
education at this time.
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1 Demographics and Factors Affecting Bill Payment
2 Q.Has the Staff prepared a demographic profile
3 of Rocky Mountain Power's service territory in Idaho?
4 A.Yes. Exhibit No. 115 includes both
5 demographics obtained from the most recent Census Bureau
6 data and unemployment data obtained from the Idaho
7 Department of Labor for each of the counties served by
8 Rocky Mountain Power. For comparison, this Exibit also
9 includes statistics for the State of Idaho and the United
10 States. Exhibit No. 116 shows the 20io Federal poverty
11 Level (FPL) Guidelines. For purposes of Staff's analysis,
12 income at or below 100% of poverty was used. A map of the
13 13 counties served by Rocky Mountain Power can be found in
Exhibit No. 117.
Q.In reviewing the data, what stands out as
16 particularly noteworthy?
17 A.The 13 counties that comprise the area that
18 Rocky Mountain Power serves have the state'.s lowest .average
19 unemployment rate (7.3 %) 1. Seven counties have poverty
20 rates exceeding the statewide average (12.5%). The low
21 unemployment rate coupled with high poverty rates suggest
22 that these counties have a large percentage of "working
23 poor" , individuals who are, employed but unable to meet
24 life's basic needs (food, clothing, shelter...) due to low
25 lThough RMP' s region has the lowest average unemployment rate in the
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wages, inadequate benefits, and little opportunity of
economic advancement. Relatively low paying jobs in these
largely rural and agricultural communi ties help explain the
situation.
Twel ve out of the 13 counties wi thin the
service territory are below the July 2010 seasonally
adjusted state average unemployment rate of 8.8%.2 Five of
these 12 counties (Bear Lake, Butte, Franklin, Oneida and
Teton) have unemployment rates less than 6.8%, ranking
among the lowest unemployment rates in the state.
Regarding the region ' s average poverty rate,
seven of the 13 counties exceed the state average of 12.5%.
Five counties (Bannock, Butte, Clark, Lemhi, and Madison)
have poverty rates in excess of 14%, ranking them in the
state's top twenty counties with the highest poverty rates.
Three of these counties (Clark, Lemhi, and Madison) rank in
the top ten. Madison County has the highest poverty rate
in the state, a staggering 25.1%, although that may be
affected by the BYU Idaho student population. The poverty
data used in this demographic profile dates back to 2008.
Current poverty rates are likely to be much higher due to
the sharp rise in unemployment that has occurred in the
region and across the state during the last two years.
Those who fall below the Federal Poverty Levels are now
2 At the time this testimony was written, the most recent unemployment
data available was from July 2010.
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likely to be full-time workers who are unable to earn
enough to meet life's basic needs or are middle class wage
earners who have either lost their job or had diminished
incomes.3 These individuals face high energy burdens. 4
Q. Do the Federal Poverty Level Guidelines
reflect an accurate gauge of poverty in the United States
and Idaho?
A. Not necessarily. The 100% of poverty level is
regarded by social service organizations as underestimating
what it costs to maintain a basic standard of living.
Realizing this, federal and state agencies charged with the
responsibi1i ty to protect human health and welfare set
household income eligibility limits for social service
programs at levels that exceed the Federal Poverty
Guideline's benchmark of 100% of poverty.
As previously stated in my testimony, seven of
the 13 counties in Rocky Mountain's service territory
underestimation, the actual number of those who live in
poverty in Rocky Mountain Power's service terri tory is even
greater.
3 Source: Idaho Statesman (9/17/10), article titled, "Census: 1 in 7
Americans lives in poverty."4 Energy Burden is the percentage of a household's income that is spent
on all home energy expenses, which includes all energy used for space
heating and cooling, lighting, and water heating.
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An example of the underestimation of those
Ii ving in poverty can be seen by comparing the Federal
Poverty Level Guideline's (FPL) estimation of Idaho
households living in poverty to the state's LIHEAP (Low
Income Home Energy Assistance Program) estimation of those
Ii ving in poverty and eligible for financial assistance.
Under the FPL, 54,829 households in Idaho are below 100% of
poverty. 5 Under Idaho's bIHEAP Program calculations (which
were based upon 150% of poverty), 106,481 households
qualify for benefits6. The difference. between these two
estimates is 51,562 households statewide.
Q. What conclusion can be drawn from these
demographi c s?
A. Customers who are living in poverty and/or are
unemployed have limited or diminished financial resources
with which to pay utility bills. Given the ongoing
economic turmoil, Staff believes that the Census data,
although somewhat lagging, provides a fairly good picture
of RMP's customers today. In fact, there is reason to
believe that customers may be worse off in the future.
Staff is concerned that a significant number of RMP's
customers will have problems paying their electric bills,
5 Source: LIHEAP Home Energy Notebook for FY 2007: Appendix B: Income
Eligible Household Estimates. Average of 2006, 2007, 2008 State-level
estimates for Idaho.6 Source: On the Brink 2009; The Home Energy Affordability GAP April
2009; published 2010 Fisher, Sheehan & Coltron.
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especially when faced with increasing rates.
Q. What do you see as the greatest threat that
could impact the ability of customers to pay their utility
bills?
A. UnemploYment continues to be a great concern.
Current Idaho Department of Labor data as of July 2010
shows a continued and sustained high unemployment rate,
which now stands near the highest levels in 27 years
(8.8%) .
An increase in the unemployment rate can lead
to an increase in the percentage of RMP customers who fall
below the Federal Poverty Level. As a result, more strain
will be placed upon agencies that provide financial
assistance for paYment of utility bills. The number of
disconnections has the potential to increase as people
experience difficulty paying their bills. Even people who
were high wage earners can find themselves in a tight
financial situation following a layoff. Higher
unemployment, rising fuel costs and increasing food costs
are additional stresses that will have an impact on
people's finances.
Q. Has the number of Past Due and Final Notices
sent to customers increased or decreased?
A. The total number of Past Due and Final Notices
sent to Idaho residential customers has fluctuated over the
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past 3 calendar years (2007-2009), with the net result
being an overall increase. Past Due notices sent to
customers increased by 8.5% and Final Notices sent to
customers increased by 11%. In comparison, Past Due
notices sent to low income customers (defined here as
customers who have received energy assistance benefits
within the past 12 months) increased by 49% and Final
Notices sent to customers receiving energy assistance
increased by 50%. The two tables below reflect the amount
of Past Due and Final Notices sent to-customers.
Past Due Notices Sent
Non Low Income
56,141
61,927
59,961
to Residen tial
Low Income
2,427
3,229
3,,615
Customers
Total
58,568
65,156
63,576
Year
2007
2008
2009
Final Notices Sent to
Non Low Income
46,389
51,501
50,529
Residential CustomersLow Income Total2,069 48,4582,771 54,2723,118 53,647
Year
2007
2008
2009
The increase in notifications is indicative of customers
struggling to make their payments in a timely manner or to
even be able to make their payments at all.
Q. Has the number of customers who have been
disconnected for non-payment increased or decreased?
A. The total number of Idaho Rocky Mountain Power
residential customers disconnected for non-payment has
steadily increased over the past three calendar years
(2007-2009) from 2,021 to 2,490. This represents a 23%
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increase in the number of disconnections; During the same
time period, the number of customers receiving energy
assistance who were disconnected for non-payment increased
from 160 to 245, a 53% increase. Customers who received
energy assistance comprise a small percentage of the total
number of disconnections in each calendar year. This
suggests that disconnection of service due to non-payment
is not an issue for low income customers only. The table
below reflects the number of customers who were
disconnected during the last three years.
Year
2007
2008
2009
Disconnections for Residential Customers
Non Low Income Low Income
1,861 (92%) 160 (8%)
1,992 (91%) 196 (9%)
2,245 (88%) 296 (12%)
Total
2,021
2,188
2,490
As the economic downturn continues and more customers
struggle financially, it is apparent that there is a
greater need to provide help for those seeking financial
assistance within the community. This also presents an
opportuni ty for RMP to address the issue of disconnects due
to non-payment. As discussed later in this testimony, RMP
has taken a first step to address the issue of disconnects
resulting from non-payment. Staff encourages RMP to
continue its efforts.
Programs Offering Financial Assistance
Q. What resources are available to help customers
pay their energy bills?
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A. The Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program
(LIHEAP) is funded by the federal government through a
grant to the State of Idaho. Unlike the situation in other
states, state government funding is not available in Idaho
to help customers pay energy bills at any time of year.
For the 2009/2010 heating season, Staff
anticipated a decrease in federal funding for LIHEAP.
During the previous heating season (2008/2009) , what was
thought to be a one-time funding increase to the yearly
LIHEAP grant occurred?, allowing for larger benefit amounts
to be given to each participant. In addition, eligibility
guidelines changed to allow for more households to
participate in the LIHEAP program. The level at which a
household was eligible to receive assistance changed from a
maximum of 150% to 160% of the Federal Poverty Level
Guidelines.
Instead of returning to the normal historical
funding level, federal funding for LIHEAP for the 2009/2010
winter heating season remained the same as that of the
2008/2009 heating seasons. Due to the ongoing economic
downturn in the economy, eligibility guidelines were
7 An increase in LIHEAP Funding for 2008/2009 heating' was authorized on
September 30, 2008, by HR 2638, The Consolidated Security, Disaster
Assistance, and Continuing Appropriations Act, 2009. As a result, funds
available to state of Idaho for the winter heating season increased
from $12,376,499 to $29,939,480.8 Fuding for the 2009/2010 heating season continued to fund at a
record level of $26,939,480 which was authorized on December 19, 2009
by HR 3288, The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2010.
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changed to be in alignment with the Weatherization
Assistance Program eligibility guidelines. The level at
which a household is eligible to receive assistance changed
from a maximum of 160% of the Federal Poverty Level
Guidelines to 60% of the estimated state medium income9.
(Estimated state income is close to 175% of the Federal
Poverty Guidelines). The higher funding level and change
in the eligibility guidelines allowed for more households
to participate in the LIHEAP program.
At this time, Staff is uncertain whether
future LIHEAP funding will increase, decrease or stay at
current funding levels.
For the 2009/2010 winter heating season,
$1,058,386 in LIHEAP funding was distributed to 1,474 Rocky
Mountain Power customers in Idaho to help pay home heating
bills. The average amount paid to each participant was
$598. Both the benefit amount given to each participant
and the number of participants were at an all time high.
The table below reflects the number of Rocky Mountain Power
customers in Idaho who received LIHEAP benefits and the
average dollar amount allocated during the last three
heating seasons.
~ 60% of estimated state medium income: 1 person family $19,985, 2
person family $24,708, 3 person family $30,522, 4 person family
$36,366, 5 person family $42,150, 6 person family $47,964.
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LIHEA
Program Year Funding
2007/2008 $374,385
2008/2009 $661,265
2009/201010 $1,058,386
FundingParticipants
1,1781,4741,769
Avg. Benefit
$318
$449
$598
LIHEAP does not sufficiently meet the energy
needs of low income customers. Therefore, Crisis Funding
benefits are available to customers whose circumstances
qualify them for additional financial assistance under
LIHEAP. Money is not always available for Crisis Funding.
Even when funds are available, the number of people who can
be helped is quite small. For the 2009/2010 winter heating
season, $5,643 in Crisis Funding benefits was distributed
to 16 Rocky Mountain Power customers in Idaho. The average
amount paid to each participating customer in 2009/2010 was
$353.
Q. Are there other programs in place that can
help Idaho customers?
A. Yes. In Rocky Mountain Power's service
territory, two CAP Agencies-Southeastern Idaho Community
Action Agency (SEICA) and Eastern Idaho Community Action
Partnership (EICAP) -administer both the LIHEAP and Lend-A-
Hand Programs. The Lend-A-Hand Program provides financial
10 First year of new Pilot Project that has allowed customers to apply
for LIHEAP benefits throughout the year or until funds run out. Each
year the heating season ends on March 31st which is reflected in the
LIHEAP Chart above. As of 7/30/10, LIHEAP funding is $1,185,395, the
number of participants is 1,960, and the average benefit amount is$605.
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assistance to RMP customers who use electric space heat as
their primary heat source. To be eligible, recipients must
be at or below 150% of the Federal Poverty Level
Guidelines. Recipients can receive an annual household
benefit of up to $600. All money collected, with the
exception of administration costs, goes back to the
community.
In the past three program years (2007-2009),
RMP shareholders donated $97,269 to Lend-A-Hand for Idahoi
RMP customers in Idaho donated $22,112. and "other sources"
donated $907.11 Of the total amount collected ($120,000),
$3,000 was paid to the two CAP agencies for administering
the program ($500 each annually). The table below reflects
total dollar amounts donated by. RMP customers and its
shareholders in the. past three program years (July 1 -
June 30).
Fiscal Year
2007/2008
2008/2009
2009/2010
Lend-A-Hand DonationsCustomer\Other Shareholders
$6,413 $33,587$9,283 $30,717$7,035 $32,965
Total Grants
$40,000 140
$40,000 173
$40,000 188
Q. What efforts does Rocky Mountain Power put
forth to make its customers and the community aware of
Lend - A-Hand?
A. Rocky Mountain Power publicizes Lend-A-Hand
11 "Other Sources" consist of employee donations through the Company's
annual giving campaign and the associated Pacific Corp Foundation
match. Donations: 2007/2008 -$82, 2008/2009-$207, 2009/2010-$618.
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through its home webpage, on-line payment webpage, ~ustomer
newsletters, press releases, and monthly customer billings,
which include donation envelopes for the months of
November, February and June. The program is also part of
the Company's annual Employee Giving Campaign. In
addition, the Company's call center staff directs customers
in need of assistance to SEICA and EICAP.
RMP is doing a good job in marketing Lend-A-
Hand. Staff encourages the Company to continue promoting
the program. Examples of the Company'.s marketing efforts
can be found in Exhibit Nos. 118 and 119. Staft encourages
the Company to investigate additional ways to increase the
total funding amount, which would also include an increase
in shareholder donations, especially in these challenging
economic times when more of the Company customers are in
greater need of financial assistance and are struggling to
pay their utility bills.
Q. Does Staff have any suggestions as to how RMP
can increase customer donations for the Lend-A-Hand
program?
A. The donation envelopes that RMP includes with
the bills during the months of November, February and June
have an Oregon mailing address (Exhibit No. 120). An out
of state address might be perceived by Idaho customers as
meaning that donations are not necessarily helping Idaho
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RMP customers, thus potentially decreasing the number of
contributions. RMP should consider changing the donation
envelope mailing address to an Idaho mailing address.
The Company currently provides customers with
the option of adding monthly donations in a fixed dollar
amount ($1, $2, $5, $10) to each of their electric bills.
To do so, the customers must first take the initiative to
contact the Company before the next billing cycle to ensure
the donation amount is added to the monthly billing
statement. To make a one-time donation, the customer has
the option of simply increasing their payment amount by a
fixed dollar amount when paying their bill. There is a
sentence in small print on the billing statement that
informs customers of this option. To better bring
attention to the opportunity to donate on the monthly
billing and to make it easier for customers to make
donations, RMP should consider adding a separate Lend-A-
Hand section on the monthly billing statement with a
donation check off box. A good example of this can be
found in Exhibit No. 121.
Programs, Payment Plans and Payment Arrangements
Q. What utility programs are in place to help
customers avoid being disconnected during the winter
months?
A. Besides LIHEAP and Lend-A-Hand, the Idaho
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Moratorium and Winter Payment Plan also address this issue.
Idaho's Moratorium allows residential
customers whose household includes children, elderly or the
inf irm to be protected from disconnection during the months
of December through February if they declare that they are
unable to pay their utility bill in full. However,
customers are not absolved of paying their utility debt.
The Winter Payment Plan allows customers who
have declared eligibility for the Moratorium an additional
two months of protection (November and March) if they agree
to accept and follow through on monthly payments that are
equal to half of the normal level pay mount (monthly
average of the previous 12 months' billings).
A brochure entitled "Consumer Information",
with information on both the Idaho Moratorium Program and
Winter Payment Plan; is sent to all residential customers
annually. All customers that receive a Final Disconnection
Notice during the months of November through February are
made aware of the Idaho Moratorium Program via a small
printed statement located on the second page of the bill.
Staff believes that both the annual brochure and billing
statement do not sufficiently focus customers' attention on
the critical information being provided.
Staff recommends that all residential
customers who receive a Final Disconnection Notice during
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the months of November through February be made aware of
the Idaho Moratorium and the Winter Payment Plan through a
bill insert with the notice. For those customers who have
declared eligibility for the Moratorium, Staff recommends
that an insert on the Winter Payment Plan be provided with
the December, January and February billings. A good
example of a bill insert can be found in Exhibit No. 122.
Lastly, concerning the RMP's Consumer Information brochure,
the current format contains Idaho Moratorium information in
the Disconnection Section. Staff recommends that the
Company revise its brochure so that the Idaho Moratorium
information is a separate section, similar to the stand
alone section for the Winter Payment Plan, thereby
decreasing the possibility that this information will be
overlooked by customers.
Q. Has the number of customers who have declared
eligibility for the Moratorium increased or decreased?
A. The number ofRMP customers in Idaho who
declared eligibility for the Moratorium during the
2009/2010 winter heating season totaled 929. This
represents an 11% increase in comparison to the previous
winter heating season (2008/2009) and a 63% increase in
comparison to the 2007/2008 winter heating season. The
increase in the number of those requesting winter
protection could be attributed to more people struggling
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financially, as was previously discussed in this testimony.
Staff anticipates that the number of
individuals who declare eligibility for the Moratorium will
increase next winter heating season if LIHEAP funding
levels are reduced or economic conditions do not improve.
Exhibit No. 123 reflects the total number of Moratorium
participants in the past three winter heating seasons.
Q. Has the number of customers participating in
the Winter Payment Plan increased or decreased?
A. Of the 929 participants who declared
eligibility for the Moratorium in the 2009/2010 winter
heating season, only 9% elected to be placed on the Winter
Payment Plan. This is significantly lower than the
previous winter heating season when 20% of Moratorium
participants had a Winter Payment Plan. The number of
participants in the Winter Payment Plan over the past three
winter heating seasons has averaged only 14%. The most
recent decrease in pårticipation could be attributed to
more participants receiving LIHEAP benefits and larger
grants, customer inability to make a payment, or a lack of
effort by the Company to promote and get customers signed
up on the Winter Payment Plan when a customer declares the
need for winter protection. Exhibit No. 123 reflects the
total number of plan participants and the percentage of
customers who signed up for the plan after declaring
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eligibili ty for the Moratorium in the past three winter
heating seasons.
Q. Have customers on the Winter Payment Plan been
able to successfully pay down their outstanding account
balances before the end of the winter protection period on
March 31?
A. Of the 81 participants who elected to be
placed on the Winter Payment Plan during the 2009/2010
winter heating season, 100% were not able to meet their
monthly payment. In the previous winter heating season, of
the 167 participants who elected to be placed on the Winter
Payment Plan, 100% were unable to meet their monthly
payment. Such high default percentages cause concern about
the effectiveness and success of the Winter Payment Plan.
Q. Have the number. of residential payment
arrangement agreements and defaulted payment arrangements
increased?
A. Yes. Al though the number of Idaho RMP
residential customers increased by over 10% over the past
three calendar years (2006-2009), the number of payment
arrangements agreements and defaulted payment arrangements
increased by much higher percentages. The number of
payment arrangement agreements increased by 31% and the
number of defaulted payment arrangements increased by 44%.
A customer can have more than one payment
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arrangement in a given month for an account and customers
can have more than one account. Because of this, the
number of payment arrangement agreements and payment
arrangement defaults do not correlate to the actual number
of customers. The table below reflects the number of
customers, payment arrangements, and payment arrangement
defaults.
Year
2007
2008
2009
Arrangements
6,1317,9998,032
Defaults
4,6056,2986,650
Percentage of Defaults
75%
79%
83%
Q. What can be done to help reduce the number of
customers who default on their payment arrangement
agreements?
A. At this time, Staff is not sure why customers
are not meeting the terms of payment arrangements. It may
be that a more diligent effort by RMP to provide monthly
customer reminder calls would be beneficial, allowing the
Company to assèss each customer's situation and reinforce
to each customer the importance of making the agreed upon
payment. However, it may be that customers do not have the
money to make payments and have found that agreeing to a
payment arrangement is simply a way to delay a pending
disconnection. Whether customers are doing so because they
feel they have no choice but to agree to terms suggested by
the Company, are using payment arrangements as a means to
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defer disconnection, or some other reason, more study is
required to determine why so many arrangements result in
defaul t. During the last three years, the percentage of
payment arrangement defaults has remained relatively high,
ranging between 75% and 83%. Unless an effort is put forth
by the Company to address the reason as to why so many
payment arrangements end in default, the number will remain
high.
Q. What payment options are in place to assist
customers who have fallen behind on their monthly payments
and are struggling to pay down their arrearages?
A. In addition to the Winter Payment Plan, RMP
offers the Time Payment Program and the Equal Time Payment
Program to customers with arrearages. Both payment plans
allow customers up to 12 months to pay off a past due
balance. The Time Payment Plan, which is used most often,
allows customers the flexibility to pay a past due balance
over a 12-month period in addition to their current monthly
bills which are based on actual usage. This option differs
from the Equal Time Payment Program in that monthly bills
are based on arrearage and estimated annual usage with the
monthly payment being the same amount each month. Just as
with the Time Payment Plan Program, the Equal Time Payment
Program allows customers the flexibility to pay a past due
balance over a 12 -month period.
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RMP has shown great flexibility in allowing
its customers to take up to twelve months to payoff
arrearages. For example, of the 5,314 accounts that were
signed up for the Time Payment Program in 2009, 73% (3,894)
had arrangements greater than six months. Exhibit No. 123
shows the number and percentage of accounts on the Time
Payment Program with payment arrangements under six months
and at six months or greater.
Staff believes that by providing customers
with greater flexibility, especially in these challenging
economic times, customers who are financially stressed are
benefited by being offered a better opportunity to payoff
past due balances. As previously stated, more study by RMP
is required to determine why so many arrangements result in
default. A brief summary of each payment plan offered by
RMP can also be found in Exhibit No. 124.
Q. What new effort has Rocky Mountain Power taken
to educate its customers about the available programs
intended to help both lower and pay energy bills?
A. In 2009, due to the ongoing recession, RMP
stepped up its educational efforts to assist customers.
The Company focused on 3 key areas: 1) bill reduction;
2) bill managementi and 3) financial assistance.
The Company's website as well as customer
service representatives provide customers with additional
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energy efficiency tips to help reduce usage, explanations
of payment plan options, financial assistance information,
and referrals to local agencies.
The Company also further publicized its Gift
Giving Program by providing information more frequently in
the Company's newsletters and monthly bills. The program
allows an individual to donate by making a payment on
another customer's RMP account. Exhibit No. 125 contains a
copy of RMP's uVoices" newsletter that contains a brief
summary detailing the program.
In February 2009 and February 2010, RMP
President Rich Walje wrote a letter to the Editor, which
was published by the Post Register in Idaho Falls, Idaho,
to encourage customers to contact the Company at the first
sign that the customer was having difficulty in paying
their bills. Both letters outlined the Company's concern
and effort in providing assistance to its customers during
the economic downturn. The letters were also sent to local
television and radio stations in Idaho. A copy of the
February 2010 letter to the Editor can be found in
Exhibit No. 126.
Q. What other steps has the Company taken to
further assist its customers?
A. In an effort to help prevent customers from
being disconnected, RMP modified its disconnect
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notification process. In addition to the required process
that a utility must follow prior to disconnecting a
customer12, RMP added 2 additional notification steps to
the process. An outbound call is made to the customer 96
hours prior to the disconnect date and a 48-hour notice is
hand-delivered to the customer's residence.
Energy Conservation Education
Q. What is the status of the Energy Conservation
Education program that was approved by Commission Order
No.. 30783 in RMP's previous rate case. (PAC-E-08-01)?
A. As part of the rate case settlement
(PAC-E-08-01), RMP agreed to support an Energy Conservation
Education program in Idaho by providing $50,000 in anual
funding through its DSM tariff rider to SEICA and EICAP.
The purpose of the program is to provide
conservation education to LIHEAP participants who have not
yet received weatherization services. Though RMP is not
responsible for the implementation of the program, the
Company has attempted to work with Community Action
Partnership of Idaho (CAPAI) in developing the program
12 Rule 309 states that an initial written notice must be mailed to a
customer 7 days prior to disconnection and a final notice must be
mailed 3 day's before the proposed date of termination. 24 hours
before the proposed date of termination, the utility shall attempt to
contact the customer either in person for by phone.
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design, goals, and evaluation criteria. According to RMP,
SEICA and EICAP were participating in the development and
implementation of both energy conservation education and
energy conservation kit distribution for Idaho Power
customers, and CAPAI wanted to ensure that the 2 CAP
agencies were not overwhelmed by instituting two separate
programs. For that reason, CAPAI decided to delay
implementation for RMP customers.
Staff is concerned that CAPAI, SEICA and EICAP
are looking at energy conservation education for RMP and
Idaho Power customers as two different and distinct
programs. Approaching the program as two separate programs
rather than one has the potential to increase the overall
cost while reducing the effectiveness of the program. This
situation raises the question of whether low income energy
conservation education should be provided on a localized
utility by utility, CAP by CAP basis. Staff recommends
that the Commission direct Staff to hold a workshop with
utili ties and other interested parties to determine how
best to provide energy conservation education targeted to
low income customers throughout the state.
Q. Of the $50 i 000 in Energy Conseryation
Education Funding that was allocated in 2009 and again in
2010, how much money has been utilized for the program?
A. To date, RMP has been billed for and paid
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$7,500 to be used for the purchase of 500 energy
conservation kits that will be distributed by the two
agencies to qualifying RMP customers at some future date.
Staff is concerned that the money that has
been allocated for Energy Conservation Education for 2009
and 2010 ($100,000 total) has not been utilized in a timely
manner. Staff recommends that while the annual funding
amount should be maintained at its current level of
$50,000 i the funding level should not be increased at this
time. Furthermore, Staff recommends that RMP include this
funding amount in its budget but that no further
expenditures be made until a workshop is held and a
decision made on how to best provide energy conservation
education statewide.
Low Income Weatherization and Energy Efficiency
Q. What other RMP programs are available to
assist low income customers?
A. Energy efficiency programs can make bills more
affordable by decreasing usage, thereby lowering energy
costs. The Low Income Weatherization Program offers
financial assistance to qualifying low income customers
with both natural gas and electrically-heated homes for
weatherization of their homes. . A household whose income is
60% of the estimated state medium income or less qualifies
to receive weatherization services. This program is
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administered by SEICA and EICAP in RMP's service territory.
In Case No. PAC-E-Os-01, the Commission approved annual
funding for low income weatherization of $150,000. Funding
for the low income weatherization program comes from the
Company's existing DSM tariff rider (Schedule 21). The
total number of dwellings weatherized in Idaho from 2007-
2009 was 257 i the amount billed by the CAP agencies totaled
$434,06113. This amount includes CAP administration costs
but does not include RMP' s administrative costs. A
breakdown of the totals for each of the three years can be
found in Exhibit No. 127.
Funding for the Federal Weatherization
Assistance Program (WAP) that came from the American
Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) will be expiring on
March 31, 2011. Although Staff anticipates a return to
normal funding levels for WAP after ARRA funds are
exhausted, the enhanced service delivery capacity that was
made possible by AR will enable CAPs throughout the state
to readily expand their utility-funded weatherization
programs if additional funds are made available.
RMP offers its Idaho customers additional
energy efficiency programs that are available to households
of aii income levels. Such programs include: 1) Home
13The CAP agencies are allowed to bill RMP up to $150,000 for each
program year which runs from April 1 through March 31. On a calendar
year basis, the payments may be greater than the $150,000.
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Energy Savings i 2) Refrigerator/Freezer Recycling i 3) Idaho
Time-of-Day Meteringi and 4) On-line and Mail-in Energy
Analysis. More detailed summaries of the programs can be
found in Exhibit No. 128.
Q. Does Rocky Mountain Power adequately address
the needs of its customers through its various programs?
A. Although there is always more that can be
done, RMP' s programs do help customers in a variety of
different ways.
Q. Will an increase in Rocky Mountain Power's
rates affect customers' ability to pay their bills?
A. Yes. There are many factors affecting
customers' ability to pay, and a rate increase will add to
the financial difficulties faced by customers. The Company
will need to continue to be flexible in making payment
arrangements. It will need to work with the customers to
ensure that payments can be made based upon schedules that
fi t the customers ' individual circumstances and needs.
Staff recommends that the Company be
encouraged to look for new and creative ways to increase
energy efficiency and provide assistance to customers,
particularly those customers who are economically
disadvantaged.
Q. Does this conclude your testimony?
A. Yes, it does.
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1 (The following proceedings were had in
2 open hearing.)
3 MR. WOODBURY: And I'd present Mr. Thaden for
4 cross-examination.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Do you have questions,
6 Mr. Purdy?
7 MR. PURDY: No. Thank you.
8 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
9 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Olsen.
10 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
11 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Otto.
12 MR. OTTO: No.
13 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Budge.
14 MR. BUDGE: No questions.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: For the Company.
16 MR. HICKEY: No, thank you.
17 COMMISSIONER SMITH: For the Commissioners.
18 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No.
19 COMMISSIONER KEMPTON: No.
20 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you, Mr. Thaden.
21 THE WITNESS: Thank you.
22 (The witness left the stand.)
23 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Madam Chair, Staff's next
24 witness is Beverly Barker.
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2 produced as a witness at the instance of Staff, being first
3 duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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7 BY MR. WOODBURY:
8 Q.Will you please state your full name and spell
9 your name for the record?
10 A.It i s -- yes. My name is Beverly Barker. It's
11 B-E-V-E-R-L-Y, B-A-R-K-E-R.
12 Q.And for whom do you work and in what capacity?
13 A.I work for the Idaho Public Utili ties Commission
14 as a director of consumer assistance.
15 Q.And in that capacity, did you have occasion to
16 prepare rebuttal testimony consisting of eight pages?
17 A.Yes, I did.
18 Q.And have you had the occasion to review that
19 testimony prior to this hearing?
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Q.And if I were to ask you the questions set forth
22 in your testimony, would your answers be the same?
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MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, I would ask that
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.1 COMMISSIONER SMITH:Seeing no obj ection,it is
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.1 Q.Please state your name and address for the
2 record.
3 A.My name is Beverly Barker and my business address
4 is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho.
5 Q.By whom are you employed and in what capacity?
I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities6A.
7 Commission as Director of Consumer Assistance.
8.Q.Please give a brief description of your
9 educational background and experience.
10 A.I received a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Political
11 Science and Sociology from Indiana University in 1974. I
12 am a Certified Professional Mediator. I have attended the.13 NARUC Regulatory Studies Program and have taken many
14 professional and gradu~te~level courses on public
15 administration, management, conflict resolution and
16 consumer affairs. I have served on the faculty of the
17 Center for Public Utilities at New- Mexico State University
18 and the NARUC Regulat9ry Studies Program at Michigan State
19 University. I served as Chair of the NARUC Staff
20 Subcommittee on Consumer, Affairs from 1990-1993 and am
21 still a member of that subcommittee. I have been employed
22 by the Commission since 1976 and have been in my present
23 position since January 1983.
24 Q.What issues will you be addressing in your
25 testimony?.
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.1 A.i will be addressing two issues raised by Teri
2 Ottens in her direct testimony on behalf of the Community
3 Action Partnership Association of Idaho (CAPAI). Those
4 issues are:(1) increased funding for Low Income
5 Weatherization Assistance, and (2) Rocky Mountain Power's
6 limitation on how much it will pay for individual low
7 income weatherization proj ects.
8 Q.Do you agree with CAPAI that funding for low
9 income weatherization should be increased?
10 A.Yes, I do. Both of the community action agencies
11 that provide assistance to low income customers wi thin
12 Rocky Mountain Power's service territory (the Southeastern.13 Idaho Community Action A~ency (SEICAA) and the Eastern
Idaho Community Action Partnership (EICAP)) have enhanced
15 capacity to provide weatherization services by virtue of
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16 the America Reinvestment and Recovery Act (ARRA) funds
17 received during the past two years . Ms. Ottens and Staff
18 witness Curtis Thaden both discuss ARRA funding in their
19 direct testimonies, so I will not provide details here. I
20 agree with both Ms. Ottens and Mr. Thaden that there now
21 exists a unique opportunity to retain the existing
22 weatherization capacity that may be lost after the ARRA
23 funds are exhausted in March 2011.
24 Q.Do you agree with the amount of funding requested
25 by CAPAI?.
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.1 A.As of this writing, it is unclear exactly what
2 dollar amount CAPAI is requesting. On page 5, Ms. Ottens
3 recommends funding of $6.64 per residential customer
4 ( $ 3 7 6 , 588), whereas on page 1 7, she recommends funding 0 f
5 $4.08 per residential customer ($231,397). The $6.64, . .
6 funding per residential customer is based on what she
7 calculates to be Avista' s expenditure per customer for its
8 low income weatherization program.However, Avista' s
9 annual funding level of $700,000 covers both its electric
10 and natural gas programs. Approximately 60% of Avista's
11 funding ($420,000) covers weatherization for its low income
12 electric customers, which translates into an expenditure of.13 $3.98 per residential customer. Using CAPAI' s methodology,
the recommended f~nding level for RMP would be
15 approximately $230,000.
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16 While I do support additional funding, I don't
17 necessarily agree with the amount requested, nor do I agree
18 with the methodology sugs-ested by CAPAI, i. e., that funding
19 be based on a calculation of dollars per number of
20 residential utility customers. There is no direct
21 relationship between the number of residential customers
22 and DSM funding in general or low income weatherization in
23 particular. In the case of RMP, funding comes from the
24 Company's Customer Efficiency Service Rate Adjustment,
25 Schedule 191, which is a 4.72% surcharge on most.
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.1 residential and non-residential customers' bills.
2 Q.In her testimony, Ms. Ottens maintains that
3 utility funding for low income weatherization be
4 "relatively equal"l among Avista, Idaho Power, and Rocky
5 Mountain Power. Do you agree?
6 A.The premise that funding should be somehow
7 proportional makes sense. However, it raises the question
8 of how to determine what an appropriate funding level
9 should be. This is the question CAPAI has tried to answer.
10 Among the other ways of determining proportionality are by
11 comparing the funding for low income weatherization to
12 funding for the residential DSM portfolio of programs or
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13 all DSM programs. Other. factors, such as the number of low
14 income customers, number of homes needing weatherization,
15 the source of funding (tariff rider vs. base rates),
16 covered measures, and program restrictions, which vary by
17 utili ty, might need to ~e taken into consideration as well.
18 Q.Do you think the Commission needs to endorse a
19 particular methodology for determining the appropriate
20 funding level for low income weatherization in this pending
21 rate case?
22 A.No, I do not. Accepting a methodology in this
23 rate case might be viewed as. setting a precedent for future
24 cases. I am sure that other utilities and other parties
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.1 that are not participating in this rate case would like to
2 be part of any discussion about funding levels and have the
3 opportunity to communicate' their views to the Commission.
4 An informal collaborative effort by interested parties to
5 explore this topic and perhaps other topics relative to
6 utility-funded low income weatherization would be one way
7 to address this issue.
8 In this rate case, I believe it is sufficient for
9 the Commission to determine an appropriate funding amount,
10 taking into consideration the current level of need for low
11 income weatherization, the current opportunity to take
12 advantage of the capacity to provide weatherization.13 services, and how it will impact the DSM tariff rider.
.'..i 14 Q. What is the level of need for low income
15 weatherization in RMP's Idaho service territory?
16 A.Both SEICA anq EICAP maintain waiting lists of
17 eligible clients needing weatherization services. Of those
18 eligible clients who have electric space heating and are
19 served by RMP, SEICAA identified 741 customers and EICAP
20 identified 233 customers. In 2007, 52 homes were
21 weatherized, while a total of 205 homes were weatherized in
22 2008 and 2009 due to the availability of ARRA funding.
23 Even with no new homes being identified in the future, an
24 unmet need certainly exists. It i~ clear that utility
25 funding alone is unltkely to fully meet the need for low.
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.1 income weatherization services. Therefore, the
2 Commission's focus should be on providing a reasonable
3 level of funding. The average RMP weatherization
4 investment per home is about $1,700.2 If the Commission
5 were to double the current annual RMP funding level to
6 $300,000, SEICAA and EICAP will be in a much better
7 position to sustain their existing capacity to weatherize
8 homes. The loss of ARRA funds will significantly decrease
9 the ability to leverage utility funds with other funding
10 sources. Given the goal of installing all appropriate
11 cost-effective measures in every home weatherized, it is
12 probable that the average RMP investment per home will.13 increase in the future, making it difficult to predict the
14 impact of pro~iding additional funding at this time.
15 However, increased funding certainly will prevent the
16 number of homes weather~zed from declining to the pre-ARRA
17 levels of about SO homes per year.
18 Q.Does RMP currently limit the amount of its funds
19 that can be used to weatherize a home?
20 A.Yes. The Company currently caps the amount it
21 will pay on a home weatherization project at 75% of the
22 installed costs for approved measures.
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24 2 If all funding sources are included, the total average
investment per home is much higher. According to CAPAI,
EICAP weatherized 329 at an average cost of $4,139 per home
in 2009. SEICAA weatherized 331 homes at an average cost
of $4,135 per home.
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.1 Q.Do you agree with CAPAI' s recommendation that the
2 cap be removed?
3 A.Staff agrees that removing the spending
4 limitation would provide more administrative flexibility to
5 the CAPs. However, in Case No. PAC-E-06-10, the Company
6 argued that removing the' spending limit would reduce the
7 number of homes weatherized and decrease the cost-
8 effectiveness of the low income weatherization program. An
9 impact evaluation of the program is scheduled to be
10 completed by year end 2010. That evaluation will provide
11 the Commission with additional information about the
12 program, including cost-effectiveness, from an independent.13 third party evaluator.
14 In light of. the Company's concerns about cost-
15 effectiveness and CAPAI's concerns about administrative
16 flexibility, the Commission might wish to consider
17 increasing the spending cap to 85% to be consistent with
18 Idaho Power's current cap. This would increase the amount
19 of RMP funds that would be available for each proj ect.
20 Since SEICAA's clientele includes customers of both RMP and
21 Idaho Power, having the, same spending cap for both
22 companies would ease SEICAA's administrative burden
23 somewhat.
24 Q.Does this conclude your rebuttal testimony in
25 this proceeding?.
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3 MR. WOODBURY: And I would present her for
4 cross-examination.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy, do you have
6 questions?
7 MR. PURDY: Just a few. I'll make it brief.
8 Thank you.
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10 CROSS-EXAMINATION
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12 BY MR. PURDY:
13 Q.Ms. Barker, I assume that you heard the cross --
14 or, I'm sorry, the additional direct examination of Ms. Ottens
15 a little bit ago, and specifically I'm asking you about her
16 clarification of the six dollars and forty -- $6.64 versus
17 $4.08. Did that clear up any confusion that you had and that
18 was expressed in your rebuttal testimony?
19 A.Yes, that makes her recommendations consistent.
Q.Thank you. And in your rebuttal testimony,
21 you--
22 COMMISSIONER SMITH: I'm sorry. Consistent with
23 what?
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1 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay. So it's internal.
2 THE WITNESS: Yes.
3 Q.BY MR. PURDY: Yes. Just to be clear, I'm not
4 asking that you necessarily agree with everything that she said
5 substantively.
6 A.Uh-huh.
7 Q.And in your rebuttal testimony, you proposed, as
8 I understand, some type of a collaborative, perhaps another
9 proceeding, to set a formula or agree upon various formulas for
10 the utili ties to look to or apply to come up with proper LIWA
11 funding. Is that right?
12 A. Yes, I do.
13 Q. All right. And I realize I'm paraphrasing here
14 to get through this quickly, but is it fair to say though that
15 whether or not such a collaborative is undertaken, that it
16 doesn't justify increasing Rocky Mountain Power's amount of
17 LIWA funding in the mean time?
18 A.Are you asking whether that would preclude
19 increasing funding in this case?
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Q.In your opinion, yes.
A.No.
Q.All right. Then if you could turn quickly to
23 page 7 of your rebuttal, and specifically line 10 -- actually,
24 a little before that -- you talk a little about the third-party
25 evaluation that Ms. Coughlin and Ms. Hunter testified to,
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1 evaluation being of the low-income weatherization program. Do
2 you see that?
3 A.Yes.
4 Q.And you characterize that on line 12 as coming
5 from an independent, third-party evaluator.
6 Do you know who that evaluator is?
7 A.Cadmus.
8 Q.Did you know that when you filed your direct
9 testimony?
10 A.Yes.
11 Q.You did. All right. Do you have much
12 substantive knowledge as to what that evaluation will tell
13 us?
14 A.No, I don't, at this time.
15 Q.All right. Do you know anything about Cadmus?
16 A.I know a little bit about them, yes.
17 Q.Do you know if they're related to Quantec or
18 not?
19 A.My understanding is Quantec changed their name to
20 Cadmus.
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MR. PURDY: And excuse me, Madam Chair.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: No problem.
Q.BY MR. PURDY: Then, finally, in your rebuttal,
up above page 7, line 10, it looks like you anticipated when
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i you prepared your testimony that the evaluation by Cadmus would
2 be completed by the end of this year i yet I believe now that
3 we've heard it could be as early as February of next year or
4 perhaps sometime after that.
5 Why were you under the impression that it would
6 be done at the end of this year?
7 A. I believe I relied upon Company witness Hedman's
8 testimony. He indicated that he thought the evaluation will be
9 completed by the end of the year. I think there's been some
10 different dates mentioned during the course of the hearing and
11 in different testimony. I don't know how much of that is
12 related to the difference between completing the evaluation and
13 the Company submitting that to the Commission as a formal
14 report. I don't know if there has been some confusion on that
15 point, but the date at which the evaluation is going to take
16 place has been somewhat of a moving target for some time now.
17 Q.Does that cause you any concern?
18 A.I think now they have certainly had all the
19 indications that the Commission is expecting to see an
20 evaluation soon.
21 Q.Okay. Thank you very much, Ms. Barker.
22 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Williams.
23 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
24 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Olsen.
25 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
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1 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Otto.
2 MR. OTTO: No questions.
3 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Budge.
4 MR. BUDGE: No questions.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: How about for the Company?
6 MR. SOLANDER: No questions.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Any from the Commissioners?
8 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No questions.
9 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you, Ms. Barker.
10 Did you have redirect?
11 MR. WOODBURY: No redirect, thank you.
12 COMMISSIONER SMITH: All right, thank you.
13 (The witness left the stand.)
14 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, Staff's next witness
15 was Gary Grayson. Adopting his testimony will be Lynn
16 Anderson.
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19 produced as a witness at the instance of Staff, being first
20 duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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25 Q.Mr. Anderson, will you please state your name and
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2 A. Lynn Anderson: L-Y-N-N, A-N-D-E-R-S-O-N.
3 Q.And for whom do you work and in what capacity?
4 A.For the Idaho Public Utili ties Commission as an
5 economist.
6 Q.And are you familiar with prepared direct
7 testimony filed by Gary Grayson on October 14th consisting of
8 ten pages?
9 A.Yes.
10 Q.And have you reviewed that testimony?
11 A.Yes.
12 Q.And are you willing to adopt that testimony?
13 A.Yes.
14 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, I'd ask that the
15 testimony be spread upon the record.
16 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay, without obj ection, the
17 testimony filed by Gary Grayson and now adopted by Lynn
18 Anderson will be spread upon the record as if read.
19 (The following prefiled direct testimony
20 of Mr. Grayson is spread upon the record.)
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1 Q.Please state your name and business address for
2 the record.
3 A.My name is Gary Grayson and my business address
4 is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho.
5 Q.By whom are you employed?
6 A.I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities
7 Commission as a Utilities Analyst.
8 Q.What is your educational and professional
9 background?
10 A.I received a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Business
11 Management from Fresno Pacific College in 1986 and have
12 completed advanced training from Michigan State and New
13 Mexico State Universities regarding utility regulation,
14 forecasting, planning, operations, and energy efficiency
15 program evaluation. I was employed by Southern California
16 Edison as an Energy Efficiency Program Manager and Major
17 Accounts Executive from July of 1982 to March of 1997. I
18 also worked for a consulting firm responsible for the
19 design and delivery of energy efficiency programs from
20 April of 1997 to September 2005. Most recently, I was
21 employed by the Idaho Office of Energy Resources as an
22 Energy Specialist from September of 2008 until I began my
23 employment with the Idaho Public Utilities èommission in
24 April of 2010. My duties at the Commission currently
25 include the review of prudency and the evaluation of
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1 electric utility demand-side-management (DSM) programs and
2 analysis of utility incentive programs. I currently
3 represent Staff at the Northwest Energy Efficiency
4 Alliance i s Cost-Effectiveness Committee, Avista Utilities i
5 External Energy Efficiency Board, Idaho Power's Energy
6 Efficiency Advisory Group, the Northwest Power and
7 Conservation Council's Regional Technical Forum, and the
8 Avista Evaluation, Measurement and Verification
9 collaborati ve .
10 Q.What is the purpose of your testimony in this
11 case?
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Mountain Power's contention that its demand-side-management
15 incurred. I will also provide observations regarding the
(DSM) expenses and efforts for 2008 and 2009 were prudently
16 enhancement of Rocky Mountains' programs in the future.
17 Q.Please describe the Company's portfolio of
18 programs, expenditures for each program, and how thesè
19 expenditures are recovered by the Company.
20 A.Currently, Rocky Mountain Power offers seven DSM
21 programs in Idaho as the least cost alternative to the
22 acquisition of new supply-side resources. These programs
23 encompass all major customer classifications including
24 residential and low- income, commercial, industrial, and
25 irrigation. Additionally, the Company contributes to the
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1 Northwest Energy Efficiency Alliance's efforts to transform
2 energy markets in the region. All of the costs associated
3 wi th programs are eligible for recovery through the
4 Customer Efficiency Service Rate Adjustment (Schedule 191)
5 wi th the exception of the Load Control Service Credits
6 which are recovered through base rates. Annual
7 expendi tures for each program were derived from the
8 Company's 2008 and 2009 annual Demand-Side-Management
9 reports and are shown below (rounded to nearest dollar) :
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Irrigation LoadControl (includesparticipationcredits)
$ 8,908,216 $11,140,894
Low IncomeWeatherization $ 164,578 $ 197,819
RefrigeratorRecycling $$113,296 108,126
Home EnergySavings $$490,101 593,564
Energy FinAswer $$
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121,192 358,426
FinAswerExpress $ 1,302,858 263,904
Agricultural $
Energy Services $268,068 807,238
Northwest Energy $EfficiencyAlliance
$317,339 287,190
Totals $11,685,648 $13,757 1163
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1 Q.Why are formal evaluations of energy efficiency
2 programs important?
3 A.Credible and transparent program evaluations are
4 crucial for the optimization of program performance and for
5 assurance to all stakeholders that actual program results
6 are as claimed. Unlike energy consumption, energy
7 efficiency program results cannot generally be metered.
8 Instead, their impacts can only be estimated through a
9 combination of engineering measurements, deemed values,
10 verification of installations, assumptions made, and
11 overall program evaluation. Programs that are not properly
12 evaluated will suffer from unreliable cost-effectiveness
13 estimates and will not likely be administered and improved
to their optimum performance levels.14
15 Q.How are energy efficiency programs evaluated?
16 A.Energy efficiency programs are evaluated using a
17 cost and benefit analysis viewpoint and cost-effectiveness
18 calculations from four maj or perspectives. These
19 perspectives include the Participant, Ratepayer, Utility,
20 and the Total Resource Cost. The results of each
21 perspective are expressed in several ways including a
22 cost/benefit ratio and net present value of program impacts
23 over the lifecycle of the energy efficiency measures.
24 These tests are not intended to be used in isolation but
25 should be compared to one another in an effort to gain a
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1 comprehensive, multi-perspective of each measure/program
2 and the portfolio as a whole. Evaluation results should be
3 used to both refine pre-program estimates of cost-
4 effectiveness from all perspectives and to find ways to
5 further improve programs as they mature.
6 Q.Has the Company provided sufficient evidence of
7 evaluations of its programs for 2008 through 2009?
8 A.Over the past several years, there developed an
9 apparent disconnect between what Staff viewed as sufficient
10 evaluations and what Rocky Mountain Power and other
11 utilities viewed as sufficient. On October 5, 2009, Staff
12 convened a workshop to fully vet the issues of evaluations
13 and cost-effectiveness expectations. With utility input,
14 Staff hired a nationally-respected energy efficiency
15 program evaluation expert to facilitate the workshop.
16 Several representatives from the Staff and representatives
17 from Idaho Power, Avista Utilities, and Rocky Mountain
18 Power, participated in the workshop. The result was a
19 Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed by each of the
20 utilities agreeing to formally evaluate all of their
21 programs on regular, multi-year cycles and to report the
22 resul ts of those evaluations in their annual DSM reports
23 that are filed with the Commission. In exchange for the
24 utility commitments, Staff agreed that if the evaluation
25 and reporting commitments are fulfilled and if there is no
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1 evidence of imprudence, then, when requested by the
2 utilities, Staff would recommend that DSM expenditures be
3 found prudent by the Commission. Although the Company has
4 not yet achieved all of the established goals as outlined
5 in the MOU, Staff believes the Company has made significant
6 progress and is on a reasonable pathway to achieve these
7 goals moving forward.
8 Q.Have you reviewed the cost-effectiveness and
9 prudency of expenditures regarding Rocky Mountain Power's
10 demand-side-management programs for 2008 and 2009?
11 A.Yes, I have.
12 Q.Wha t were your findings?
13 A. As indicated in the Company's 2008 and 2009
14 annual DSM reports and the testimony of Brian Hedman from
15 the Cadmus Group, all programs appear to have met three of
16 the four cost-effectiveness tests with the exception of the
17 2009 Agricultural Energy Services program which passed only
18 two of the four tests. The irrigation Load Control program
19 however, passed all four tests including the very difficult
20 Ratepayer Impact Measure (RIM) test, meaning that it
21 results in lower electricity rates as well as providing a
22 net system benefit. In total, the Company's DSM programs
23 in 2009 have produced an estimated $17.1 million in net
24 benefits over the life of the savings compared to gross
25 costs of $13.7 million.
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1 Q.Based on your overall assessment, does it appear
2 that the Company's DSM program expenses for 2008 and 2009
3 were prudently incurred?
4 A.Yes. After review and verification of all
5 available program results, and considering progress made
6 toward meeting the guidelines set forth in the MOU, Staff
7 believes that Rocky Mountain Power's demand-side-management
8 programs and efforts in 2008 and 2009 were generally
9 prudent and cost-effective.
10 Q.Are there any other issues you would like to
11 address in your testimony?
12 A.Yes. I would like to address issues related to
13 customer segment equity and the Customer Efficiency
14 Services Rate (Schedule 191).
15 Customer Segment Equity - Although this market
16 segment has shown to be extremely cost-effective, there is
17 a huge disparity between the resources provided to the
18 irrigation segment as compared to the other customer
19 segments. The data provided by the Company in their 2009
20 Annual DSM report shows 81% of total DSM expenditures were
21 allocated to the Irrigation Load Control program while
22 only 6.5% was provided to the residential market, 4.5% to
23 commercial/industrial,S. 9% to. agricultural and 2.1% to
24 market transformation. These totals include $7.3 million
25 provided in load control credits to irrigators which are
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2 should endeavor to find ways to pursue all cost-effective
3 DSM while striving toward greater balance with regard to
4 customer segment equity.
5 Customer Efficiency Services Rate (Schedule 191)
6 The Customer Efficiency Services rate or "tariff rider" was
7 established in 2006 (Order No. 29976) at a time when the
8 Company was increasing its commitment to pursue DSM
9 initiatives. The Tariff Rider was designed to provide
10 Rocky Mountain Power front-end financing for its DSM
11 programs and to enable them to better manage those programs
12 rather than having to continually adjust its programs to
13 match budgets. The rider appears on customer bills as an
14 unbundled charge based on a percentage of the customers'
15 monthly bill. The rider was established at 1.5% and raised
16 to 3.72% in 2008.
17 In February 2010, the Company applied to the
18 Idaho Public Utilities Commission (Case No. PAC-E-10-03)
19 for approval to raise the Customer Efficiency Services Rate
20 (Schedule 191) from 3.72% to 5.85%, an increase of 2.13%.
21 The increase was requested in an effort to decrease the DSM
22 balancing account deficit from $3.5 million to $2.25
23 million by April, 2011, and to provide an estimated $8.25
24 million per year toward the Company's DSM initiatives. The
25 Commission approved an increase of 1.0% (Final Order
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1 No. 32023), raising the collection rate from 3.72% to 4.72%
2 for all customers subject to Schedule 191. The approved
3 rate will provide an estimated $6.86 million in DSM funding
4 for program year 2010 at the Staff proposed revenue
5 requirement. Staff believes that this level of tariff
6 rider funding is not sufficient to reduce existing DSM
7 deficit balances and could actually increase the deficit
8 balance at the expected level of DSM expenditures.
9 When the rider was originally introduced, Staff
10 believed an unbundled charge on the customer bill would
11 help notify customers of available energy efficiency
12 programs and provide an additional layer of transparency
13 regarding Company DSM initiatives. As a line item on the
14 customers' bill, the Customer Efficiency Services charge
15 does draw the attention of customers, particularly those
16 who do not participate in any of the Company's DSM
17 programs. Non-participants do not see how DSM programs
18 personally benefit them, since they perceive a bill
19 increase rather than a bill reduction. Most customers are
20 not familiar with the rationale justifying implementation
21 of energy conservation and efficiency programs, with its
22 long term focus on keeping energy rates lower than they
23 would be otherwise if load growth was served with higher
24 cost supply- side resources. As the amount invested in DSM
25 has grown, the tariff rider percentage has increased and so
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1 has customer opposition. Moreover, not all customers are
2 subj ect to the tariff rider. Special contract customers
3 pay for DSM when the expenses are collected through base
4 rates but do not when costs are recovered through the
5 tariff rider. The Commission may need to reconsider
6 whether the Tariff Rider, in its current form, should be
7 continued. Staff believes alternative recovery mechanisms
8 for Company DSM expenditures should be explored, including
9 the possibility of expensing DSM expenditures in base
10 rates.
11 Q.Does this conclude your direct testimony in this
12 proceeding?
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3 MR. WOODBURY: And I'd present Mr. Anderson for
4 cross-examination on Mr. Grayson's testimony.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you.
6 Mr. Purdy.
7 MR. PURDY: No questions.
8 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Williams.
9 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
10 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Olsen.
11 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
12 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Otto.
13 MR. OTTO: I do, actually.
14 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Otto.
15 MR. OTTO: I just had two or three questions.
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19 BY MR. OTTO:
20 Q.Hello, Mr. Anderson. Here we are. You're fine
21 if you go back to your table. There you go, we're lined up.
22 On pages 9 through 10 of Mr. Grayson's testimony,
23 he talked about how the current level of funding may be --
24 well, it is outpacing the DSM expenditures, and that I think he
25 ends with that the Staff believes alternative recovery
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2 expensing expenditures in rate base.
3 Would you -- do you have a specific example or
4 further suggestion on that?
5 A.Not really at this time. There i s a variety of
6 ways that could be done. Back in the 1980s and '90s --
7 primarily the '90s -- dSM expenses were capitalized and/or
8 expensed as they occurred.
9 Q.Okay. And then were you present for Ms. Hunter's
10 testimony?
11 A.For some of it.
12 Q.For some of it. And then part of that testimony,
13 she discussed the mechanism in Washington where they don't use
14 a rider but it's part of rates. Were you here for that part?
15 A.I was not.
16 Q.You were not. Okay, that's fine.
17 MR. OTTO: That's all the questions I have.
18 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you.
19 Mr. Budge.
MR. BUDGE: No questions.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: For the Company?
MR. SOLANDER: No questions.
24 the Commission?
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Do we have questions from
25 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No questions.
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2 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Nor I.
3 Redirect, Mr. Woodbury.
4 MR. WOODBURY: No redirect.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you, Mr. Anderson.
6 (The witness left the stand.)
7 MR. WOODBURY: Staff would call as its next
8 wi tness Keith Hessing.
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10 KEITH HESSING,
11 produced as a witness at the instance of Staff, being first
12 duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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14 DIRECT EXAMINATION
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16 BY MR. WOODBURY:
17 Q.Mr. Hessing, will you please state your full name
18 and spell it for the reporter?
19 A.My name is Keith Hessing. My last name is
20 spelled H-E-S-S-I-N-G.
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Q.Okay. And your first name is spelled?
A.K-E-I-T-H. E before I, except after K.
Q.And for whom do you work and in what capacity?
A.I work for the Idaho Public Utili ties Commission.
I'm a staff engineer.
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1 Q.And in that capacity, did you have occasion to
2 prepare prefiled testimony on October 14th consisting of five
3 pages, and three exhibits, Exhibits 129 through 131?
4 A.Yes.
5 Q.And have you had the opportunity to review that
6 testimony and those exhibits prior to this hearing?
7 A.Yes.
8 Q.And is it necessary to make any changes or
9 corrections?
10 A.No.
11 Q.And if I were to ask you the questions set forth
12 in your testimony, would your answers be the same?
13 A.Yes.
14 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, I would ask that
15 Mr. Hessing's testimony be spread on the record, and that the
16 exhibits be identified.
17 COMMISSIONER SMITH: If there's no obj ection, it
18 is so ordered.
19 (The following prefiled direct testimony
20 of Mr. Hessing is spread upon the record.)
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2 the record.
3 A.My name is Keith D. Hessing and my business
4 address is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho.
5 Q.By whom are you employed and in what capacity?
I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities6A.
7 Commission as a Public Utilities Engineer.
8 Q.What is your education and experience
9 background?
10 A.I am a Registered Professional Engineer in the
11 State of Idaho. I received a Bachelor of Science Degree
12 in Civil Engineering from the University of Idaho in 1974.
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Since then, I worked six years for the Idaho Department of
15 have been continuously employed at the Commission since
Water Resources, and two years for Morrison-Knudsen. I
16 August 1983.
17 As a member of the Commission Staff, my primary
18 areas of responsibility have been electric utility power
19 supply, cost of service, revenue allocation and rate
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20 design.
Q.What is the purpose of your testimony in this
22 proceeding?
23 A.My testimony addresses customer class cost of
24 service and the allocation of the Staff proposed revenue
25 requirement to the various customer classes.
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1 COST OF SERVICE
2 Q.What cost of service methodology do you support
3 in this case?
4 A.I support the methodology presented by the
5 Company's witness Craig Paice. The basic methodology is
6 the same used in the Revised Protocol jurisdictional
7 allocation process. The jurisdictional allocation
8 methodology was developed in collaboration with the other
9 state jurisdictions in which PacifiCorp provides service.
10 The cost of service methodology presented by the Company
11 is the same methodology accepted by the Commission in
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12 recent general rate case decisions.
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Q. Are there advantages to not changing the Cost of
Service methodology?
A.Yes. Aside from the fact that it simplifies the
16 case, it allows the Cost of Service results to be driven
17 by class energy, demand and customer characteristics and
18 changes in Company costs. When the methodology is
19 changed, cost of service results for customer classes may
20 change significantly without any change in customer usage
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21 characteristics or underlying service costs.
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Q.What cost of service results do you propose?
A.Staff Exhibit No. 129 contains my cost of
24 service results. These results are based on a Staff
25 revenue requirement increase of approximately $14.8
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1 million and are calculated using the same model and
2 methodology proposed by the Company.
3 RENU SPRE
4 Q.What is revenue spread?
5 A.Revenue spread is the determination of the
6 revenue amount that needs to be collected from each
7 customer class. It is driven by a class cost of service
8 result.
9 Q.What revenue spread does the Company propose?
The Company proposes to move all customer10A.
11 classes to nearly full cost of service except the Street
12 and Area Lighting class (Schedules 7, 11, 12) that would
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receive a rate reduction in a full cost of service move.
15 requirement and to re-spread the lighting decrease, that
The Company proposes no change in the lighting revenue
16 would otherwise occur, to all other customer classes to
17 achieve the recovery of the full revenue requirement.
18 Therefore, the final move is to nearly full cost of
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19 service for all classes receiving an increase.
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Q.What is your revenue spread proposal?
A.I propose to use the same methodology presented
22 by the Company with one difference. My proposal is to
23 allow no class revenue requirement decreases while moving
24 customer classes requiring increases toward full cost of
25 service with uniform percentage offsets to balance the
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1 revenue requirement for the lighting class reduction not
2 given. The difference between my proposal and the
3 Company's proposal is that I would assign Residential
4 customers taking service under Schedules 1 and 36 equal
5 percentage increases. Staff witness Bryan Lanspery
6 provides testimony in support of this position.
7 As shown on Staff Exhibit No. 129, only the
8 Street and Area Lighting class (Schedules 7, 11, 12) would
9 receive a decrease in a full cost of service move. That
10 decrease amounts to $173,064. Staff Exhibit No. 130 shows
11 the revenue spread that I propose. Column H shows the
12 spread of the proposed increase and Column I shows the
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resulting percentage increase for each class. This is the
15 use in rate design calculations.
rate spread presented to Staff witness Bryan Lanspery for
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Q.Did you prepare any other revenue spreads for
A.Yes. It is fairly common practice to move only
19 part way to full cost of service to mitigate the shock of
20 large increases. The trade-off is that a partial move to
21 cost of service is an acceptance that some classes will
22 subsidize others. Staff Exhibit No. 131 shows a revenue
23 spread that moves half way to full cost of service while
24 gi ving no decreases and levelizing the increase to the two
25 residential classes.
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3 MR. WOODBURY: And I would present Mr. Hessing
4 for cross-examination.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy, do you have
6 questions?
7 MR. PURDY: I don't, thank you.
8 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Williams.
9 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
10 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Olsen.
11 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
12 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Otto.
13 MR. OTTO: No questions.
14 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Budge.
15 MR. BUDGE: No questions.
16 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Does the Company have any
17 cross-examination for Mr. Hessing?
MR. HICKEY: No.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Do the Commissioners have
20 any questions for Mr. Hessing?
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COMMISSIONER KEMPTON: No.
COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No questions.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you, Mr. Hessing.
THE WITNESS: Thank you very much.
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2 THE WITNESS: Okay.
3 (The witness left the stand.)
4 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Woodbury.
5 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, Staff's last witness
6 is Terri Carlock.
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8 TERRI CARLOCK,
9 produced as a witness at the instance of Staff, being first
10 duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:
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14 BY MR. WOODBURY:
15 Q.Ms. Carlock, will you please state your name and
16 spell your name for the reporter?
17 A.Terri Carlock: T-E-R-R-I, C-A-R-L-O-C-K.
18 Q.And for whom do you work and in what capacity?
A.I work for the Idaho Public Utili ties Commission
20 as deputy administrator for the utilities division.
21 Q.And in that capacity, did you have occasion to
22 prefile on October 14th direct testimony consisting of 23
23 pages, and one exhibit, 132?
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Q.And did you also on November 24th file a revision
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2 A.That's correct.
3 Q.And have you had the occasion to review the
4 testimony and revision prior to this hearing?
5 A.Yes.
6 Q.And is it necessary for any changes or
7 corrections?
8 A.No.
9 Q.If I were to ask you the questions set forth in
10 your testimony as revised, would your answers be the same?
11 A.Yes.
12 MR. WOODBURY: Madam Chair, I'd ask that the
13 testimony be spread on the record, and the exhibit be
14 identified.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Hearing no obj ection, the
16 prefiled testimony of Terri Carlock will be spread upon the
17 record as if read, and Exhibit 132 is identified.
18 (The following prefiled direct testimony
19 of Ms. Carlock is spread upon the record.)
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2 record.
3 A.My name is Terri Carlock. My business address
4 is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho.
5 Q.By whom are you employed and in what capacity?
I am the Deputy Administrator of the Utili ties6A.
7 Division at the Idaho Public Utilities Commission. I am
8 responsible for the Accounting/Audit Section and
9 coordinating Staff's policy positions with Staff
10 Administrator Randy Lobb.
11 Q.Please outline your educational background and
12 experience.
13 A. I graduated from Boise State University in
14 1980, with B.B.A. Degrees in Accounting and Finance.I
15 have attended various regulatory, accounting, rate of
16 return, economics, finance, and ratings programs. I am
17 currently the Chair of the National Association of
18 Regulatory Utility Commissioners (NARUC) Staff
19 Subcommittee on Accounting and Finance. I also Co-chair
20 . the Task Force on International Financial Reporting
21 Standards. I previously chaired the NARUC Staff
22 Subcommittee on Economics and Finance for more than 3
23 years. Under this subcommittee, I also chaired the Ad
24 Hoc Committee on Diversification. I have been a
25 presenter for the Institute of Public Utilities at
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1 Michigan State University and for many other conferences.
2 Since joining the Commission Staff in May 1980, I have
3 participated in audits, performed financial analysis on
4 various companies, and have presented testimony before
5 this Commission on numerous occasions.
6 Q.What is the purpose of your testimony in this
7 proceeding?
8 A.The purpose of my testimony is to present the
9 Staff's recommendation related to the return on equity
10 and overall cost of capital for PacifiCorp to be used to
11 determine the Staff proposed revenue requirement in this
12 case, PAC-E-10-07. I will address the appropriate
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capital structure, cost rates and the overall rate of
15 Program.
return. I also discuss the Idaho Irrigation Load Control
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Q.Please summarize your testimony.
A.In my testimony I support the Staff
18 recommendation that the Idaho Irrigation Load Control
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Program be assigned as a power supply cost. I discuss
this recommendation in terms of the Revised Protocol
Allocation Methodology and the Multi-State Process (MSP).
I also present testimony on the capital
24 of return. I am recommending a return on common equity
structure and cost components comprising the overall rate
25 (ROE) in the range of 9.5% - 10.5% with a point estimate
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.1 of 10.0%. The Staff recommended 10% ROE compares to the
2 Company-proposed 10.6% ROE. I accept the Company's
3 proposed capital structure and updated the cost rates. I
4 recommend an overall weighted cost of capital in the
5 range of 7.769% - 8.29% with a point estimate of 8.03%
6 to be applied to the rate base for the test year. The
7 Company proposes an 8.357% overall weighted cost of
8 capital.
9 Q.Are you sponsoring any exhibits to accompany
10 your testimony?
11 A.Yes, I am sponsoring Staff Exhibit No. 132
12 consisting of 3 schedules,.~...13 Idaho Irrigation Load Control P~ogram
14 Q. Staff witness Randy Lobb discusses the Idaho
15 Irrigation Load Control Program and recommends the
16 program costs being treated ,as power supply costs.
17 First, do you believe this recommendation is supportable
18 under Revised Protocol and through the Multi-State
19 Process using the concepts in the Revised Protocol?
20 A.Yes. The Idaho Irrigation Load Control Program
21 has evolved since inception to the point it now provides
22 PacifiCorp a valuable system resource. With the program
23 changes through 2008, the dispatchable service
24 interruptions under Schedule 72A contracts allow
25 PacifiCorp to reduce loads during peak periods and during.
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1 outages at generation plants. These contracts provide
2 system flexibility. The interruptions are large enough
3 (over 200 MW load reduction capability) and are reliable
4 enough to allow PacifiCorp to utilize these interruptions
5 as a resource for planning purposes in the Integrated
6 Resource Plan (IRP). The Idaho Irrigation Load Control
7 Program contracts are more like power purchase agreements
8 or ancillary service contracts and should be classified
9 as such and treated the same for allocation purposes.
10 Q.How is the Idaho Irrigation Load Control
11 Program currently allocated by PacifiCorp?
12 A.The Idaho Irrigation Load Control Program is
13 currently identif ied as a Demand Side Management Program
(DSM). All DSM is treated as a State Resource under the14
15 Revised Protocol and assigned situs to the state in which
16 the investment is made.
17 PacifiCorp identifies the Idaho Irrigation Load
18 Control Program as Class 1 DSM. Depending on
19 dispatchability, reliability of results, term of load
20 reduction, and persistence over time, PacifiCorp divides
21 DSM into classes for IRP purposes. The definition for
22 Class 1 DSM is defined as:
23 Resources from fully dispatchable or
scheduled firm capacity prodùct
offerings/programs - Class 1 pr.ograms are
those for which capacity savings occur as a
resul t of active Company control or advanced
scheduling. Once customers agree to
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timing and persistence of the load reduction
is involuntary on their part within the
agreed limits and parameters of the program.
In most cases, loads are shifted rather thanavoided.
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5 Q. Please explain why this allocation isn' t
6 acceptable?
7 A. This identif ication may be adequate for IRP and
8 DSM reporting purposes but it is inadequate for
9 allocation purposes in a state where the state loads are
10 a small percentage of the system operations but the load
11 interruptions are a growing percentage. The program
12 success has outgrown the benefits that can be attributed
13 to Idaho alone. The system operations rather than the
14 state loads are the driver to evaluate cost
15 effectiveness. As a result the system receives a benefit
16 from the program of approximately $20 million as reported
17 in the 2009 DSM Report due to avoidance or delay of
18 generation. Therefore, base rates for all of the
19 Company's customers are lower than they would have been
20 absent the program. The total program costs, including
21 irrigation payments for interruption, are $11.4 million.
22 Idaho customers pay the full out of pocket program cost
23 of $11.4 million. The Idaho benefits are received
24 through the load decrements in the dynamic allocation
25 model. The resulting change in system allocators and the
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.1 allocated costs results in the $7.5 million benefit to
2 Idaho customers. This system resource is provided at a
3 net cost to Idaho customers because costs exceed the
4 benefits by $3.9 million. These costs are recovered
5 entirely from Idaho customers through base rates and the
6 Idaho tariff rider. This simple cost/benefit analysis
7 shows how the costs do not follow the system benefits,
8 creating a mismatch to the detriment of Idaho customers.
9 This mismatch needs to be corrected so this valuable
10 system resource is not lost.
11 Q.What is the next step?
Although the program has changed and it is12A..13 identified as Class 1 DSM, the classification of the
14 contracts for allocation purposes has not changed. Based
15 on my participation in all of the MSP Standing Committee
16 and Workgroup discussions, along with my work analyzing
17 the options to ultimately support the Revised Protocol, I
18 believe a classification change would be allowed under
19 Revised Protocol.
20 If PacifiCorp wants assurance it will be allowed the
21 opportunity to recover its costs as a power supply
22 expense, qualifications to the Revised Protocol could be
23 requested through the MSP process. Now is a good time to
24 make the distinctions related to the Idaho Irrigation
25 Load Control Program as part of the MSP and the 2010.
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Amendments to the Revised Protocol currently filed before
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3 Idaho Commission is Case No. PAC-E-10-09.
Q.Is a change in allocation for the Idaho
5 Irrigation Load Control Program a new concept before MSP
6 since it is not currently part of the 2010 Amendments
7 proposed in PAC-E-10-09?
8 A.No. The Idaho Irrigation Load Control Program
9 and allocation methodology have been discussed on
10 numerous occasions within the MSP forum. The discussions
11 revolved around differences between investments in DSM
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where a capital investment saves energy and instances
Iwhere there are contracts for the purchase of po,er or
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The 2010 Amendments to Revised Protocol are
!based in part on a concept agreement that is the ¡ basis of
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the current filing in PAC-E-10-9. The 2010 Amen~ments to
!Revised Protocol allows for state specific items I to
!Revised Protocol but the Idaho Irrigation Load C~ntrol
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2 Order No. 29708. In addition to Idaho, the Revised
3 Protocol was ratified by Oregon, Utah and Wyoming.
4 As discussed previously, the Idaho Irrigation
5 Load Control Program has evolved. Contract changes in
6 2008 created greater system operational benefits with
7 dispatchable interruptions. Staff witness Lobb shows the
8 increase in contract participants and the annual MWs
9 available for interruptions. Between 2007 and 2009, the
10 annual MWs increased from 78 MW to 276 MW or more than a
11 250% increase.
12 Q.Does this proposed power supply cost treatment.13 for the Idaho Irrigation Load Control Program result in
14 increased risk for the Company?
15 A.Yes and no. It results in some increased
16 recovery and financial risks. However, these increased
17 risks should be short-term risks associated with timing.
18 Q.Are there other allocation issues to address?
19 A.The newly proposed 2010 Allocation Study is
20 presented in Case No. PAC-E-10-09. This 2010 Amendment
21 starting with a rolled-in allocation methodology will
22 reduce the Idaho Allocated costs. That case is a
23 separate proceeding and a timeline for processing has yet
24 to be established. The Company requests that the
25 Commission issue an Or:der no later than March 31, 2011..
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1 If PAC-E-10-09 were to be completed before the Commission
2 issued an Order in this case, the reductions could be
3 reflected in prospective 2011 rates.
4 Rate of Return
5 Q.Have you reviewed the testimony and exhibits of
6 PacifiCorp witnesses Hadaway and Williams associated with
7 the return components?
8 A.Yes. Much of the theoretical approach used by
9 PacifiCorp witnesses Hadaway and Williams in their
10 respective testimony and exhibits is generally similar to
11 what I have used. My return on equity analysis is based
12 primarily on the DCF analysis. My judgment in some areas
13 of application results in different outcomes.
Q. What capital structure are you recommending be14
15 used to calculate the overall rate of return?
16 A.I recommend a capital structure consisting of
17 47.6% debt, 0.3% preferred equity and 52.1% common
18 equity. This is the same capital structure proposed by
19 Company witness Williams. I compared this capital
20 structure to the actual June 30, 2010 capital structure
21 of 47.5% debt, 0.3% preferred equity and 52.2% common
22 equity finding the proposed capital structure to be
23 reasonable. A common equity ratio of 52.1% supports
24 PacifiCorp's bond rating even when debt is imputed for
25 Purchase Power Agreements in the Standard and Poor's
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1 ratio analysis.
2 Q.Please discuss the general impact on PacifiCorp
3 of being a wholly-owned subsidiary of PPW Holdings, LLC,
4 an entity owned by MidAmerican Holdings Company (MEHC).
5 A.PacifiCorp does not have publicly traded stock
6 as a wholly-owned subsidiary. Therefore, only comparable
7 companies can be utilized when evaluating the required
8 cost of equity for PacifiCorp. PacifiCorp has received
9 cash equity contributions from MEHC, has retained
10 earnings in PacifiCorp and has not paid dividends or made
11 distributions. Overall, I believe the relationship has a
12 positive impact on ratings and PacifiCorp's ability to
13 finance debt at reasonable rates.
14 Q. Did you consider double or triple leveraging of
15 PacifiCorp's common equity since it is wholly-owned and
16 does not raise common equity in the market?
17 A.Yes, I considered double and triple leveraging
18 of PacifiCorp's common equity. Leveraging ultimately
19 reflects additional debt costs in the overall weighted
20 cost of capital. To maintain reasonable cash flow levels
21 and earnings, I do not believe a leveraging adjustment is
22 reasonable.
23 Q.What legal standards have been established for
24 determining a fair and reasonable rate of return?
25 A.The legal test of a fair rate of return for a
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1 utility company was established in the Bluefield Water
2 Works decision of the United States Supreme Court and is
3 repeated specifically in Hope Na tural Gas.
4 In Bluefield Water Works and Improvement Co. v.
5 West Virginia Public Service Commission, 262 U.S. 679,
6 692, 43 S. Ct. 675, 67 L. Ed. 1176 ( 1923), the Supreme
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A public utility is entitled to such rates as
will permit it to earn a return on the value
of the property which it employs for the
convenience of the public equal to that
generally being made at the same time and in
the same general part of the country on
investments in other business undertakingswhich are at tended by corresponding risks and
uncertaintiesi but it has no constitutional
right to profits such as are realized or
anticipated in highly profitable enterprises
or speculative ventures. The return should
be reasonably sufficient to assure confidence
in the financial soundness of the utility and
should be adequate, under efficient and
economical management, to maintain and
support its credit and enable it to raise the
money necessary for the proper discharge of
its public duties. A rate of return may be
reasonable at one time and become too high or
too low by changes affecting opportunities
for investment, the money market and businessconditions generally.
20 The Court stated in FPC v.' Hope Natural Gas Company, 320
21 U.S. 591, 603, 64 S.Ct. 281, 88 L.Ed. 333 (194~):
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From the investor or company point of view it
is important that there be enough revenue not
only for operating expenses but also for the
capital costs of the business. These include
service on the debt and dividends on thestock.. .. By that standard the return to the equity
owner should be commensurate with returns on
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corresponding risks. That return, moreover,
should be sufficient to assure confidence in
the financial integrity of the enterprise, so
as to maintain its credit and to attract
capital. (Citations omitted.)
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6 Works and Hope Natural Gas have been affirmed in In re
7 Permian Basin Area Rate Case, 390 U.S. 747, 88 S.Ct 1344,
8 20 L.Ed 2d 312 (1968), and Duquesne Light Co. v. Barasch,
9 488 U. S. 299, 109 S.Ct. 609, 102 L.Ed.2d. 646 (1989).
10 The Idaho Supreme Court has also adopted the principles
11 established in Bluefield Water Works and Hope Natural
12 Gas. See In re Mountain States Tel. & Tel. Co. 76 Idaho
13 474, 284 P.2d 681 (1955) i General Telephone Co. v. IPUC,
109 Idaho 942, 712 P. 2d 643 1986) i Hayden Pines Water14
15 Company v. IPUC, 122 Idaho 356, 834 P.2d 873 (1992).
16 As a result of these United States and Idaho
17 Supreme Court decisions, three standards have evolved for
18 determining a fair and reasonable rate of return:
19 (1) The Financial Integrity or Credit Maintenance
20 Standardi (2) the Capital Attraction Standardi and,
21 (3) The Comparable Earnings Standard. If the Comparable
22 Earnings Standard is met, the Financial Integrity or
23 Credit Maintenance Standard and the Capital Attraction
24 Standard will also be met, as they are an integral part
25 of the Comparable Earnings Standard.
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1 Q.Have you considered these standards in your
2 recommendation?
3 A.Yes. These criteria have been thoroughly
4 considered in the analysis upon which my recommendations
5 are based. It is also important to recognize that the
6 fair rate of return that allows the utility company to
7 maintain its financial integrity and to attract capital
8 is established assuming efficient and economic
9 management, as specified by the Supreme Court in
10 Bl uefield Wa ter Works.
11 Q.Why is the return on equity calculation
12 important?
13 A. The return on equity and the overall rate of
14 return provides the method for calculating the return
15 authorized. This return provides the level of
16 compensation to investors for the use of the capital
17 invested in the utility plant and equipment to serve
18 customers. The actual return investors receive is
19 derived from dividends a~d growth in stock price when the
20 shares are sold. Since the direct required return is not
21 a contractual calculation, the authorized return on
22 equity serves as the proxy.
23 Q.What approach have you used to determine the
24 cost of equity for PacifiCorp?
25 A.I have primarily evaluated two methods: I
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2 tested its reasonableness with the Comparable Earnings
3 method.
4 Q.Please explain the Comparable Earnings method
5 and how the cost of equity is determined using this
6 approach.
7 A.The Comparable Earnings method for determining
8 the cost of equity is based upon the premise that a given
9 investment should earn its opportunity costs. In
10 competitive markets, if the return earned by a firm is
11 not equal to the return being earned on other investments
12 of similar risk, the flow of funds will be toward those.13 investments earning the higher returns. Therefore, for a
utility to be competitive in the financial markets, it14
15 should be allowed to earn a return on equity equal to the
16 average return earned by other firms of similar risk.
17 The Comparable Earnings approach is supported by the
18 Bluefield Water Works and Hope Natural Gas decisions as a
19 basis for determining those average returns.
20 Industrial returns tend to fluctuate with
21 business cycles, increasing as the economy improves and
22 decreasing as the economy declines. Utility returns are
23 not as sensitive to fluctuations in the business cycle
24 because the demand for utility services generally tends
25 to be more stable and predictable. However, returns have.
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i fluctuated since 2000 partially due to the price
2 volatility in the electricity markets. Electricity
3 prices lately have been less volatile so earnings have
4 tended to be more stable.
5 Q.Please evaluate interest rate trends.
6 A.The u. S. prime interest rate has been stable at
7 3.25% since December 16, 2008. The federal funds rate
8 and other rates have been low and fairly flat during
9 2010.
10 Q.Please provide the current index levels for the
11 Dow Jones Industrial Average and the Dow Jones Utility
12 Average.
13 A. The Dow Jones Industrial Average (DJIA) closed
at 10,751.27 on October 4, 2010. The DJIA all-time high14
15 of 14,164.53 was reached on October 9, 2007. The Dow
16 Jones Utility Average closed on October 4, 2010 at
17 398.88. The 52-week high was 406.72 for the Dow Jones
18 Utili ty Average.
19 Q.Please explain the risk differentials between
20 industrials and utilities.
21 A. Risk is a degree of uncertainty relative to ,a
22 company. The lower risk level associated with utilities
23 is attributable to many factors even though the
24 difference is not as great as it used to be. Utilities
25 continue to have limited competition for distribution of
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1 utility services within the certificated area. With
2 limited competition for regulated serVices, there is less
3 chance of losses related to pricing practices, marketing
4 strategy and advertising policies. The competitive risks
5 for electric utilities have changed with increasing non-
6 utility generation, deregulation in some states, open
7 transmission access, and changes in electricity markets.
8 However, demand has declined during the recession.
9 Recently utility demand for some customers has been flat
10 with forecasts of slight growth in usage. Competitive
11 risks continue to be limited for the utility operations
12 in general. The demand for electric utility services is
13 relatively stable and certain compared to that of
unregulated firms.14
15 For PacifiCorp specifically, competitive risks
16 continue to be average primarily because of the lower-
17 cost source of power and the low retail rates compared to
18 national averages. The risk differential between
19 PacifiCorp and other electric utilities is based on the
20 resource mix and the cost of those. resources. All
21 resource mixes have risks specific to resources chosen.
22 Under regulation, utilities are generally
23 allowed to recover through rates, reasonable, prudent and
24 justifiable cost expenditures related to regulated
25 services. PacifiCorp has been authorized an Energy Cost
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1 Adjustment Mechanism (ECA) in Idaho. Recovery
2 mechanisms have been approved also in Oregon and Wyoming.
3 A mechanism is being reviewed in Utah. Recovery
4 mechanisms reduce PacifiCorp's recovery risk from the
5 level it was at before the mechanisms were adopted.
6 compared to other utilities with recovery mechanisms, the
7 risk differential will be minimal but the overall risk
8 has still been reduced for PacifiCorp. Unregulated firms
9 have no such assurance. Utilities in general are
10 sheltered by regulation for reasonable cost recovery
11 risks, even if it isn' t 100%, making the average utility
12 less risky than the average unregulated industrial firm.
13 As everyone is aware, current market trends and
14 earnings levels have dramatically declined. I believe
15 PacifiCorp continues to be in a better position than many
16 utilities to fund its near-term capital requirements with
17 its current debt authority and equity levels. The
18 current credit and investment markets are positive for
19 utility capitalization at reasonable rates. Based on the
20 Value Line industry rank for electric utilities,
21 investors have reevaluated their investment portfolios,
22 ranking utilities higher in probable performance. This
23 indicates utility stocks with the primary operation being
24 the utility will be favored over higher risk operations.
25 Authorized returns by State Commissions for
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1 electric utilities during the last quarter of 2009 and
2 2010 to date, range from 9.4% in Connecticut to 11.0% in
3 Michigan. Many of the decisions authorized a return on
4 equity between 10% and 10.25%.
5 Earnings comparisons for the Value Line
6 electric utilities with a financial strength of A is
7 around 10.5%. The earnings comparison for the electric
8 utilities in the west, including Idaho utilities, is
9 around 8. 6 % - 9 % .
10 Considering all of these comparisons, I believe
11 the most reasonable return on equity range attributed to
12 PacifiCorp is 9.0% - 10.5% under the Comparable Earnings
13 method.
14 Q.You indicated that the Discounted Cash Flow
15 method is utilized in your analysis. Please explain this
16 method.
17 A.The Discounted Cash Flow (DCF) method is based
18 upon the theory that (1) stocks are bought for the income
19 they provide (i. e., both dividends and/or gains from the
20 sale of the stock), and (2) the market price of stocks
21 equals the discounted value of all future incomes. The
22 discount rate, or cost of equity, equates the present
23 value of the stream of income to the current market price
24 of the stock. The formula to accomplish this goal is:
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10 simplifying assumptions for ratemaking purposes can be
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12 Two such assumptions are: (1) dividends per share grow
13 at a constant rate in perpetuity and (2) prices track
earnings. These assumptions lead to the simplified DCF.14
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19 Q.What is your estimate of the current cost of
20 capital for PacifiCorp using the Discounted Cash Flow
21 method?
22 A.The current cost of equity capital for
23 PacifiCorp using the Discounted Cas~ Flow method is
24 between 8.8% - 9.3%. The range is calculated using the
25 Value Line electric utilities with an A financial
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4 estimate using the comparable DCF.
5 Q.How is the growth rate (g) determined?
The growth rate is the factor that requires the6A.
7 most extensive analysis in the DCF' method. It is
8 important that the growth rate used in the model be
9 consistent with the dividend yield so that investor
10 expectations are accurately reflected and the growth rate
11 is not too large or too small.
12 I have used the average expected growth rate of
13 4.4%. This expected growth rate was derived from an
14 analysis of various projected growth indicators,
15 including growth in earnings per share, growth in cash
16 dividends per share, growth in book value per share and
17 growth in cash flow.
18 Q.What are the costs related to the capital
19 structure for debt?
20 A.I updated the cost of debt rate to reflect
21 current information. The recommended cost of debt is
22 5.88% as shown on Staff Exhibit No. 132, Schedule 1.
23 Q.What are the costs related to the capital
24 structure for preferred equity?
25 A.I updated the cost of preferred equity rate to
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2 preferred equity is 5.42% as shown on Staff Exhibit
3 No. 132, Schedule 2.
4 Q.You indicated the cost of common equity range
5 for PacifiCorp is 9.0% - 10.5% under the Comparable
6 Earnings method and 8.8% - 9.3% under the Discounted
7 Cash Flow method. What is the cost of common equity
8 capi tal you are recommending?
9 A.The fair and reasonable cost of common equity
10 capital I am recommending for PacifiCorp is in the range
11 of 9.5% - 10.5%. Although any point within this range is
12 reasonable, the return on equity granted would not
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range. I utilized a point estimate of 10.0% in
15 calculating the overall rate of return for the revenue
16 requirement.
17 Q.What is the basis for your point estimate being
18 10.0% when your range is 9.5% - 10. S%?
19 A.My recommended range and 10.0% return on equity
20 point estimate is based on a, review of market data and
21 comparables, average risk characteristics for PacifiCorp,
22 operating characteristics, and the capital structure. It
23 also considers the reduced risk of PacifiCorp itself for
the implementation of the ECA and the increased risk for
PacifiCorp itself for the. recovery risk caused by the
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1 recommended change in allocation. I considered all Staff
2 adjustments to determine if recovery risk increased. The
3 adj ustments moving plant in service to plant held for
4 future use will delay recovery and impact cash flows.
5 Q.What is the overall weighted cost of capital
6 recommended for PacifiCorp?
7 A.My recommended overall weighted cost of capital
8 is in the range of 7.769% - 8.29%. For use in
9 calculating the revenue requirement, a point estimate
10 consisting of a return on equity of 10.0% and a resulting
11 overall rate of return of 8.03% was utilized as shown on
12 Staff Exhibit No. 132, Schedule 3.
13 Q. Many customer comments indicate the return
earned by the Company should not be much higher than14
15 deposit rates they are aple to obtain. Please explain
16 how that view fits with your return on equity
17 recommendation of 10%?
18 A.Any comparison must be based on risk
19 assessment. The assessment also includes the cash volume
20 available to invest and the length of time you are
21 willing to tie up the cash in the investment. For
22 instance, individuals are able to invest in different
23 financial institutions at different interest rates. The
24 basic savings account will.. typically have the lowest
25 interest rate offered. As the volume of cash and the
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2 insti tution increase, the higher the interest rate that
3 will be available. As you add additional risk, the
4 safety and ability to get your money back goes down and
5 the return required goes up. Utilities require
6 significant levels of cash to invest in the
7 infrastructure to assure customers receive electric
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economy is slow,a base level of investment is still
required.The required return on equity for a utility
will vary but will not swing like earnings for
competitive companies,including 'Mom and Pop'stores.
Q. Does / this conclude your direct testimony in
this proceeding?
A.Yes, it does.
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2 open hearing.)
3 MR. WOODBURY: And I would present Ms. Carlock
4 for cross-examination.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy.
6 MR. PURDY: I have no questions.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Williams.
8 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
9 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Olsen.
10 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
11 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Otto.
12 MR. OTTO: No questions.
13 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Budge.
14 MR. BUDGE: No questions.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: From the Company.
16 MR. HICKEY: Just a few, thank you, Chairman.
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Q.Good afternoon, Ms. Carlock.
A.Good afternoon.
Q.I have a few foundational questions:
It's a fact, isn't it, that the Commission in
Idaho has adopted the revised protocol?
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i A.Yes.
2 Q.And I understand that you are a member of the MSP
3 standing committee, Ms. Carlock?
4 A.From the beginning, yes.
5 Q.And could you briefly, for the record, state what
6 the purpose of that committee is?
7 A.The purpose of the committee is to look at
8 allocation methodologies and to determine whether there are
9 changes or modifications needed to revise protocol, and then to
10 work through those issues.
11 Q.And you and Mr. Lobb have proposed revising the
12 allocation of the Idaho irrigation program. Isn't that true?
13 A.That's correct.
14 Q.And it's true that you recently raised that issue
15 at an MSP standing committee meeting?
16 A.I did. I raised ita couple years ago and I
17 raised it again.
18 Q.Do you know if there are similar programs to the
19 irrigators program that exists in Idaho in any of the other
20 operating states of Rocky Mountain Power and its affiliated
21 division?
22 A.PacifiCorp distinguishes its DSM by classes.
23 Class 1 is the class that the Idaho irrigation program falls
24 under.
25 There are two other programs in Utah that are
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2 same. I should say they don't provide exactly the same
3 benefits.
4 Q.The Utah program is situs based though, isn't it,
5 as a DSM program?
6 A.It is, and I believe that the situs basing of
7 interruptible or load control programs is somewhat of a
8 discretionary basis for the Company.
9 Q.But it at least, to try to maybe set the
10 perspectives here
11 Isn't it true that all of the DSM programs that
12 the Company presently has in place in any of the states are
13 si tus based and allocated?
14 A.That is true. The DSM programs are situs based
15 under revised protocol, but the programs that are Class 1, and
16 particularly the Idaho irrigation load control program, is not
17 the same as it was when revised protocol was adopted.
18 Q.Do you see any problems in the MSP process if the
19 Idaho irrigation program all of a sudden became system
20 allocated without a consistent treatment that all of the other
21 DSM programs that the Company has in its other five states?
22 A.I believe that there is not a potential concern
23 right now unless you are following all of the Company's
24 determinations for DSM. If it is determined as the valuation
25 like a power supply interruptible program, then other
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2 disagreement with that i but there does need to be a
3 clarification as to whether this is this Class 1 program is
4 a DSM program or if it fits into an interruptible program that
5 would be agreed as a power supply allocation, and that process
6 has started.
7 We currently have a case going on in Idaho that
8 is dealing with some changes to revised protocol, and the other
9 states indicate that this is something that could be worked
10 through as that process goes forward and does not need a
11 clarification to MSP, in their opinion.
12 Q.But to the extent that this program and the Utah
13 program were both found to be of the same category of DSM
14 programs, you would agree then that there would need to be a
15 consistency in treatment. Correct?
16 A.Yes, if they were found to be the same type of
17 program, then there should be consistency.
18 Q.Sure.
19 MR. HICKEY: Thanks. That's all I had,
20 Madam Chair.
21 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Questions from the
22 Commissioners?
COMMISSIONER REDFORD: Not from me, thank you.
COMMISSIONER KEMPTON: No.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: None?
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2 MR. WOODBURY: None.
3 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you, Ms. Carlock.
4 (The witness left the stand.)
5 MR. WOODBURY: That completes the Staff's case.
6 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Yes, it does.
7 I think I'm cemented to the chair, so should we
8 just keep finding more witnesses or --
9 MR. HICKEY: I--
10 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Hickey.
11 MR. HICKEY: I would endorse that concept, and at
12 the point that you're ready to hear from the Company again,
13 we i re eagerly awaiting the chance to address the next phase of
14 the case.
15 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: You want to start over?
16 (Laughter. )
17 MR. HICKEY: Gosh, I hope I don't need to.
18 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Is the Company intending to
19 call any more sur-surrebuttal?
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MR. HICKEY: We are.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay.
MR. HICKEY: We have three witnesses that I think
23 will be brief, and I've been, with the good help of
24 Mr. Solander, trying to focus these witnesses tightly, and they
25 are ready to testify this evening if it's the pleasure of the
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2 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Could we -- let's take a
3 break till 5: 15.
4 Wendy, would that work for you?
5 THE COURT REPORTER:(Indicating. )
6 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay. I assume that
7 everyone's preference is we just stick it out till we're done
8 tonight and not have to show up tomorrow.
9 MR. BUDGE: Yes.
10 MR. HICKEY: Certainly would be ours.
11 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay.
12 MR. HICKEY: Thank you.
13 COMMISSIONER SMITH: 5: 15.
14 (Recess.)
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: All right, we'll go back on
16 the record. Mr. Hickey.
17 MR. HICKEY: Thank you, Madam Chair, members of
18 the Commission. We are at the point of where Rocky Mountain
19 Power would call its first rebuttal witness, and that first
20 rebuttal witness will be Steve McDougal and I have very limited
21 examination for him.
22 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay. Mr. McDougal, you're
23 already sworn.
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6 MR. BUDGE: Madam Chairman -- excuse me, Counsel,
7 for interrupting -- is my understanding correct that this
8 addi tional rebuttal would only relate to the surrebuttal
9 testimony that was accepted, and of course clarifying any
10 things up?
11 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Well, I guess it's my
12 understanding that the Company gets the last word, so anything
13 that was in the cross or the answers of witnesses that came
14 after the Company i s witnesses is fair game at this time.
15 MR. BUDGE: Okay.
16 MR. HICKEY: Thank you, Madam Chair.
17 COMMISSIONER SMITH: But certainly it's not an
18 opportuni ty to just repeat your direct testimony or review your
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COMMISSIONER REDFORD: Woodshedding.
MR. HICKEY: I appreciate the ruling from the
22 Bench and it was my understanding prior to when you made that
23 comment, but I assure aii of you at the Bench and the parties
24 that we will be respectful of the hour of the day and the need
25 to bring this case to conclusion.
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3 BY MR. HICKEY:
4 Q.First of all, Mr. McDougal, were you here when
5 Ms. Iverson testified this afternoon?
6 A.Yes, I was.
7 Q.And did you have an opportunity to hear her view
8 of how to allocate the Monsanto load?
9 A.Yes, I did.
10 Q.Could you just frame that issue for us again?
11 A.What Ms. Iverson was proposing and my
12 interpretation was to remove Monsanto loads from the allocation
13 factors and at the same time remove XX out of 25 million
14 dollars worth of Monsanto demand revenues.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay, so is this number no
16 longer secret?
17 MR. HICKEY: And that's a fair comment.
18 Q.BY MR. HICKEY: Mr. McDougal, these points were
19 handled in a sealed transcript this afternoon.
20 COMMISSIONER SMITH: I mean, I guess I'm a little
21 distressed by what seem to be the Company's disregard of the
22 proprietary nature of this number, so how are we going to do
23 this? Mr. Budge.
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2 Mr. McDougal just identified, and I would again ask that this
3 page of the transcript be sealed again. And certainly those in
4 the room on behalf of the Company are bound by the
5 Confidentiali ty Agreement that we acknowledge and would adhere
6 to.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: As I assume are the Counsel
8 for the other parties. All right.
9 MR. BUDGE: Sounds sufficient. Thank you.
10 Q.BY MR. HICKEY: So mindful, Mr. McDougal, that
11 you're in a treacherous area here of figures that Monsanto has
12 identified as proprietary, the issue is again what?
13 A. On Exhibit 84, there is listed $25 million for
14 Schedule 400.
15 Q.Okay. And that's -- we're still wi thin a sealed
16 transcript, Mr. McDougal.
17 A.Okay. Ms. Iverson proposes to remove XXXXXXXXXX
18 of that amount, leaving XXXXXXXXXX in the state of Idaho. At
19 the same time, she removes aii of the load from the allocation
20 factors, in effect moving all of those costs to the other
21 states. So, she is leaving costs or moving costs to other
22 states while leaving revenues in Idaho, and I do not believe
23 that is allowed under the allocation methodology.
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Q.Okay. What provision, if any, of the allocation
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1 A.Well, there's a couple of different items. One
2 of them is Appendix 0, which talks about special contracts and
3 how to allocate special contracts. In Appendix 0, you can see
4 a direct matching in that they basically give two options:
5 Either leave allocation factors or remove them. But what they
6 are trying to do is make sure that whichever way you go the
7 cost and benefits are the same. So either the costs and the
8 benefi t are all on a system basis, or they're on a
9 jurisdictional basis, not a combinationi and I believe her
10 methodology is a combination.
11 Q.Wi thout identifying the proprietary figures
12 again, would you tell us what the consequence, in your view, is
13 of Ms. Iverson's methodology?
14 MR. BUDGE: Excuse me for obj ecting, but this
15 seems to go far beyond the cross-examination of Counsel of
16 Mrs. Iverson, and the witness is simply reiterating what he has
17 already testified to on his rebuttal testimony.
18 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Hickey.
19 MR. HICKEY: I would suggest that this is a very
20 limi ted area of rebuttal given the position that Ms. Iverson
21 took during the course of the cross-examination that I had with
22 her, and Mr. McDougal is being called for the limited purpose
23 of rebutting the methodology that she identified on how she
24 chose to pursue this issue of allocation.
25 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Did he rebut this already in
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2 MR. HICKEY: I'll let the witness respond
3 directly to you.
4 THE WITNESS: It was mentioned in the rebuttal,
5 but at the same time, she was asked the question on the stand
6 should she remove the full 25 million and she said, "No," and
7 so that's what we're somewhat trying to clarify.
8 MR. HICKEY: That's exactly the issue that we
9 framed.
10 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay, I've got the
11 clarification. Is there more?
12 MR. HICKEY: I just would like him to respond to
13 the last outstanding question that was there before the
14 obj ection.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: All right.
16 THE WITNESS: And the last, as I understand the
17 last question, is what's happening is she's leaving XXXXXXXXXX
18 in Idaho but allocating the costs to other states.
20 Mr. McDougal.
MR. HICKEY: I have no further questions of
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COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you.
MR. HICKEY: And he's available for examination.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: Anybody in the back row?
MR. OLSEN: No.
MR. OTTO: No.
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2 MR. WOODBURY: I have no questions.
3 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay. Mr. Budge.
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8 Q.Isn't it a fact, Mr. McDougal, that the testimony
9 of Mrs. Iverson removed only the coincident peak and left all
10 of the energy load?
11 A.Correct.
12 MR. BUDGE: No further questions.
13 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay. Do we have questions
14 from the Commissioners?
15 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No.
16 COMMISSIONER KEMPTON: No.
17 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay.
18 MR. HICKEY: We'd ask that Mr. McDougal be
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THE WITNESS: Again.
COMMISSIONER SMITH: He is. Thank you.
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3 MR. DUVALL: Thank you.
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5 GREGORY DUVALL,
6 recalled as a witness at the instance of Rocky Mountain Power,
7 having been previously duly sworn, was further examined and
8 testified as follows:
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12 BY MR. HICKEY:
13 Q.Mr. Duvall, are you prepared to address the
14 surrebuttal testimony that was allowed to become a part of the
15 record, spread into the record in this case, that was filed by
16 both Mr. Widmer and by Mr. Falkenberg?
17 A.Yes, I am.
18 Q.And you've reviewed that surrebuttal testimony
19 that was delivered to us on Tuesday?
A.I have.
Q.And what comments, first of all, do you have in
22 response to the witness sponsored by Monsanto, Mr. Widmer?
23 A.Okay, Mr. Widmer i shad 15 pages of surrebuttal
24 with two exhibits. He's gone through a number of his items
25 with some further comments. I will try to zip through my
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2 The first and probably biggest issue is the wind
3 integration cost and there's been some discussion of that
4 today, and the bottom line is Monsanto has proposed that we
5 that there not be included any wind integration costs in the
6 base net power cost. And we heard from Mr. Widmer today that
7 he thought the -- in regard to the 10 percent haircut that kind
8 of falls out of that, that because the Company has been
9 negligent, I believe, he indicated, that that was a fair
10 penal ty to the Company. So I don't believe that that makes any
11 sense.
12 I think we also found that in Wyoming, he
13 proposed a $26 million of wind integration costs in the last
14 general rate case. In this, he's proposing zero. He claimed
15 that the difference is that Idaho has an ECAM and Wyoming
16 doesn't, but they have a PCAM. So, there's really no reason
17 why it should be different.
18 And he's also acknowledged that those costs are
19 rural, so --
20 On the -- his adj ustment 2A, which is the open
21 access transmission tariff wind integration, he is asking to
22 preclude that basically by looking at -- at -- looking at it in
23 hindsight. That's basically what his surrebuttal looks at.
24 And, unfortunately, we are required to provide that service by
25 FERC and we're precluded from charging separately for that
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2 His testimony is that we should have gone to FERC
3 and got a charge for it. I don't think looking at what we've
4 seen come out of FERC on the NOPR that Ms. Shu -- Dr. Shu --
5 talked about that there is really any chance that we could get
6 that charge in any short order.
7 Some of these others I would skip. The double
8 counting and balancing, that was, I think, just sort of
9 repetitive.
10 Reserve shutdown and the forced outage rate, he
11 puts in a new example in there. What this issue is is how do
12 you determine the outage rate of natural gas plants, I guess,
13 and coal plants, but it's really focused on natural gas plants.
14 We calculate the forced outage rate as how often it breaks down
15 when it's asked to operate. And so if you ask it to operate
16 and it breaks down ten percent of the time, our forced outage
17 rate would be ten percent.
18 This reserve shutdown issue is when it's not
19 being asked to operate, that's when it's on reserve shutdown.
20 Then it has zero forced outage rate. And what Mr. Widmer does
21 is takes that zero forced outage rate and averages it with the
22 forced outage rate we calculated, so it waters it down to get a
23 lower forced outage rate, and that is just unreasonable.
24 I would also note that Mr. Falkenberg and his
25 clients in Oregon in the forced outage docket we've spoke about
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2 On Mr. Widmer's Item 7, which is the Cal iso
3 fees, his surrebuttal testimony basically makes it clear that
4 he fully misunderstands this issue. He suggests in his
5 testimony that we need to actually wheel from Four Corners,
6 which is over in Arizona, to South Path 15, which is in
7 California; and if we don't actually move power, then we can't
8 have any Cal iSO charges.
9 That's absolutely incorrect. We incur Cal iso
10 charges because we do business with the Cal iSO buying and
11 selling power. So every time we buy or sell power with the Cal
12 iSO as a counterparty, we include these charges. And so they
13 occur year after year, and all's we do is we include the last,
14 most recent 12-month history in the test period. So those --
15 those should remain in there.
16 There i s no new arguments on the Cholla 4
17 capaci ty.
18 On the Morgan Stanley calls, this one he looks at
19 also the prudence to be determined in hindsight. And i think
20 there was a good point brought up by i forget which attorney it
21 was, but talking about the irrigators and the interruptibles
22 are a lot like the Morgan Stanley issue: You pay a premium for
23 the product whether you use it or not. So there's really no
24 difference between these, and we would suggest that we leave
25 the premiums in for Morgan Stanley.
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1 On the Bear River, his adj ustment number 12 has
2 to do with flood control, and he refuses to accept that flood
3 control is an operating constraint on the Bear River. We have
4 no control over whether we get flood-controlled water unless
5 it's under contract that we get flood-controlled water. And it
6 requires the Bear Lake to be at a certain elevation.
7 It is far below that elevation. There's
8 absolutely, you know, very, very minimal probability that we
9 will see flood control in the near future. We haven't seen it
10 for the past ten to 11 years. And to assume that the hydro
11 level of the Bear River will include flood control waters is
12 unreasonable.
13 And then, finally, on the Black Hills shaping,
14 there is really nothing new on that.
15 So, on to Mr. Falkenberg -- and this will be much
16 shorter -- and I would just turn to page 3 of Mr. Falkenberg's
i 7 surrebuttal testimony if you care to do that. This is where he
18 has restated or corrected his original table.
19 If you notice down under the Section C, he's made
20 some adjustments. That was basically to agree to a couple of
21 our -- basically to remove Stateline, which was in Dr. Shu's
22 rebuttal.
23 Down below Item 14 under number G, that's deleted
24 as well, that adjustment where he agreed with the Company.
25 The only two I have concerns about are number one
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2 screen, he's made a change here. Comri tment logic is all about
3 starting up gas plants and making sure that those are economic
4 when you start them up; and part of the cost of starting them
5 up is the fuel and the extra wear and tear, and those are just
6 standard sort of pieces.
7 What he's done in his surrebuttal is remove the
8 wear and tear costs, and so there's a lot more starts and there
9 are a lot more economic and so it reduces net power costs below
10 what we could achieve.
11 And then on number two, the start-up energy, what
12 he has done there is he's just changed the number of starts
13 from what he had in his case to what we had in our rebuttal
14 case so there's not much difference, but he claims that
15 Dr. Shu's in the -- on the start-up energy -- this is the value
16 of the start-up energy in GRID -- GRID starts up
17 instantaneously, but in reality gas plants take two to three
18 hours to start up. So if you're going to include the value of
19 start-up energy, you have to include the time to start up. And
20 so that was in Dr. Shu's rebuttal and that was $4. 7 million
21 worth of additional cost if you added that start-up time into
22 the GRID.
23 What he is -- in his rebuttal testimony, the very
24 bottom, Footnote 2, he says, well, even if you put in that
25 extra time, it still reduces net power costs. But if you look
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1 closely at Footnote 2 and read his testimony closely, in the
2 original he assumed that start-up energy was worth the
3 avoidance of coal. So if you bring up a gas plant, you're
4 backing down a coal plant, that's your avoided cost.
5 What he's assumed in his al ternati ve study where
6 he's added the time in the GRID is that you could actually sell
7 that into the market, and you can't sell. There is no market
8 intrahour, wi thin the hour. You can only market power on the
9 hour. And so as you're starting up a unit during the hour, you
10 can't take it to market because there is no market; you can
11 only back down coal units.
12 That concludes my sur-surrebuttal.
13 MR. HICKEY: So, Chairman, Mr. Duvall is
14 available for examination.
15 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy, Williams.
16 MR. WILLIAMS: No questions.
17 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
18 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Olsen, Otto.
19 MR. OTTO: None.
20 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Woodbury.
21 MR. WOODBURY: Thank you, Madam Chair.
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4 Q.Mr. Duvall, you addressed early on, I guess,
5 the -- in your discussion of wind integration costs the tariff
6 that the Company has for wholesale transmission and the
7 proposed, I guess, impending rate case that you intend to file
8 asking for recovery of wind integration costs in that, and
9 FERC' s requirement that the Company present a study showing
10 actual costs, wind integration costs.
11 Do you think it would be reasonable for this
12 Commission to require that the Company present a study showing
13 actual costs before it allowed any recovery of costs to the
14 Company?
15 A.Well, I think this Commission -- my answer would
16 be, "No," and I think this Commission and other Commissions
1 7 have already allowed wind integration costs based on study work
18 that folks have done, wind integration studies that folks have
19 done, and I think those are -- they give a reasonable estimate.
20 What FERC has asked for folks to do is actually
21 change how they operate their system -- they go to a 15-minute
22 scheduling -- and then also get data from all of the
23 third-party wind generators so that they can actually forecast.
24 This is all real new stuff and, my understanding, we're still
25 investigating it, but I think that there's a lot of dollars
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2 And then once you get that all set up, then
3 you've got to operate for a year, collect data, and then use
4 that data as the basis of your wind integration charge if you
5 want such a charge with FERC.
6 Q.Is PacifiCorp going to continue with its stated
7 intention to request wind integration costs and prepare such a
8 study for them?
9 A.Well, that's under review, but this has put a
10 real big kink in it.
11 And I think in Dr. Shu i s testimony, I believe she
12 said, you know, consistent with FERC guidance, and that was
13 you know, that's -- our intention was to file along in our
14 general rate case in June of 2011, but this has really put a
15 kink in it and we i re reviewing our opportunities here.
16 Q.Thank you.
17 A.You're welcome.
18 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Budge.
19 MR. BUDGE: No questions.
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4 Q.I just have one. I guess I know the FERC Order
5 is new, but are you aware of the Joint Initiative?
6 A.I'm -- I'm aware of it.
7 Q.Okay. Because they have been working for a long
8 time on intrahour scheduling and dynamic system scheduling,
9 so -- but you're saying there's no market. That might be
10 different from the scheduling. So you want to put the two
11 together for me? Because I think part of the impetus for the
12 FERC i S Order was the activities of the Joint Initiative with
13 regard to DSS and the intrahour scheduling.
14 A.Yeah, I think you're referring to where I said
15 there's no intrahour market, and that was with regard to
16 starting up gas plants and what do you do with that energy.
i 7 There is no intrahour market today. There are discussions
18 about creating an intrahour market, and that's, I believe, what
19 you're talking about, but it's not there, and it takes quite a
20 bi t of, you know, infrastructure and cooperation to get there.
21 Q.Right.
A.But maybe this FERC --
Q.So that would be more along the lines of the
24 economic dispatch study that's also going on?
25 A.Correct.
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1 Q. Okay.And so all the bilateral sales are done
2 only on the hour?
3 A.That's correct.
4 Q.Aii right. Thank you.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Redirect?
6 MR. HICKEY: I have none.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you.
8 Thank you for your help.
9 THE WITNESS: You're welcome.
10 (The witness left the stand.)
11 MR. HICKEY: And our last witness in the rebuttal
12 case is Darreii Gerrard.
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14 DARRELL GERRARD,
15 recalled as a witness at the instance of Rocky Mountain Power,
16 having been previously duly sworn, was further examined and
17 testified as follows:
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22 Q.You're also aware of the fact, Mr. Gerrard, that
23 you're still under oath?
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A.Yes, I am.
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2 demonstrate the need for Populus to Terminal?
3 A.No, I do not. I do not agree with Mr. Peseau.
4 And I would point out that we had five
5 disturbances on Path C -- those are detailed in my testimony
6 qui te specifically -- that impacted our two maj or customers
7 Nucor and Monsanto multiple times, more than 1,500 other
8 customers, they impacted more than a thousand megawatts of
9 generation multiple times on the system, and I think we have
10 buil t a track record on that path through its derating from
11 somewhere close to a thousand megawatts down to 575 on a firm
12 basis. I think that's a clear track record that there's a
13 problem there and it needed to be corrected.
14 Q.Another comment that's been made by Mr. Peseau
15 was his statement that loads in Utah and Idaho do not justify
16 the proj ect capacity for Populus to Terminal. Do you agree
17 with his statement in that regard?
18 A.Yes, I was quite surprised by that, that he
19 didn't see that the loads justified the proj ect. And I would
20 point to Section 3, page 25, and Table 3 of our IRP where all
21 of our load forecasts are located for the IRP, and they do show
22 significant load growths in some areas, some areas are down,
23 and there is an updated table in there that shows the change we
24 made in our most recent forecast as we updated our 2009 IRP in
25 March of this year. And I would also say that -- that that
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2 I also mentioned yesterday that we're under a
3 requirement under our tariff to solicit loads and -- loads and
4 resource forecasts, and those are part of how we forecast
5 loads. So I don't see how he can say it's not driving the
6 project.
7 Q.You were here when Mr. Peseau was testifying,
8 weren't you?
9 A.Yes, I was.
10 Q.And did you hear his testimony today that
11 regarding his belief that there was no justification of the
12 need for Populus to Terminal?
13 A.Yes, I did hear him say there was no need for it.
14 Q.And what's your response to the testimony he
15 presented today?
16 A.I don't believe he presented any testimony that
17 showed that it was not needed. He strictly -- his two main
18 points on the justification for Populus-Terminal is a
19 MidArerican transaction commitment from 2005 and a cost per
20 mile on the project. That's the only justification for any
21 empirical engineering or technical data he provided about the
22 project.
23 Q.And there was additional testimony from
24 Mr. Peseau and a statement attributed to him where he had said
25 your testimony yesterday and your assessment of the proj ect ' s
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2 Did you take any issue with Mr. Peseau' s
3 characterization of your testimony yesterday in that area of
4 the proj ect' s capacity contribution to Path C?
5 A.Yes. I did not agree with his statement. I
6 think he said something close to I did not provide a fair
7 assessment, and he uses "fair" somewhat the same way he uses
8 "oversized" or "overbuilt": There's no definition of what
9 ei ther one of those are. But I think I provided the operating
10 parameters and the operating conditions to this Commission, our
11 engineering facts data that showed our firm capacity was 575
12 and it is now 1,600. He did not provide any data that showed
13 that we did not increase the capacity by 1,040 megawatts.
14 Q.At least my characterization of Mr. Peseau' s
15 point was that it i s his contention that Energy Gateway is
16 speculati ve when compared to other proj ects. Did you agree
17 wi th that testimony of Mr. Peseau?
18 A. I did hear him say he thought that Gateway was
19 speculative. I don't recall if he was talking about a specific
20 segment, but he did say he thought it was speculative and I
21 guess
22 Q.My question is do you agree with it?
23 A.I do not agree with it. And I'd like to point
24 really quickly to my exhibit one more time if I may, which was
25 my Exhibit 67 and it got renamed as 88 during the
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2 Q.Certainly. I believe that's a map that was
3 prepared by a subcomri t tee of WECC?
4 A.It was prepared by the subregional coordination
5 group and provided to the TEPPC, which is Transmission
6 Expansion Planning Comri ttee of WECC. That's the map.
7 Q.Thank you for the correction.
8 A.Yeah. Sorry, I didn't get that to you.
9 Q.And that is Exhibit 88. Do you need a copy?
10 A.No, I have it here. I just wanted to point out
11 that if you look in the top, right-hand corner of that map, the
12 colored lines say NTTG -- Northern Tier Transmission Group --
13 and there's a list of proj ects there, as you can read, that
14 consti tute the foundational proj ects. And the Gateway by the
15 end of --
16 I also mentioned yesterday that we were required
17 to have a FERC license to operate, a FERC rating, so we have to
18 have a license from FERC to operate. And by the end of this
19 year, we will have -- PacifiCorp will have in its hand -- we
20 anticipate will have in its hand at the end of this year our
21 license from WECC to operate all segments of Energy Gateway.
22 So what that means in short is we've passed
23 through the Phase 1 regional planning process with Gateway.
24 We i ve gone through Phase 2, which demonstrates its
25 interconnectabili ty, its reliability, and its contribution to
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1 the GRID. And we're into Phase 3 at the end of the year, which
2 is the construction phase, and we have a license to operate.
3 None of those other proj ects on that list do.
4 Q.Did you hear Mr. Peseau address the issue of
5 whether or not it would be a prudent practice of a utility
6 bringing a transmission resource onto its system to have excess
7 capaci ty in place at the time of the in-service date?
8 A.Yes, I thought I heard him say that was a good
9 idea or he would support that.
10 Q.Did you have a chance to identify any specific
11 examples of where you were aware from your own knowledge of
12 where that's actually occurred that a project either owned by
13 PacifiCorp or other utili ties had excess capacity at the time
14 of an in-service of a transmission resource?
15 A.Yes, I've either worked on or been around several
16 projects, and I'm familiar with a number. I've got a couple I
17 would speak to where we have built capacity in advance of
18 generation or we have transmission capacity installed ahead of
19 its demand.
20 And one of the examples I would use is one that's
21 pretty close to home, and that is our Jim Bridger system that
22 is located in Wyoming and transports all of its energy over to
23 Southeast Idaho. That project was built as three separate 345
24 lines, not too much unlike Populus in the sense of their
25 voltage and capacities. That's nearly a thousand miles long.
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1 And we built it over three years: Started in '73 and we
2 finished it in '76.
3 The generation that went along with that took
4 fi ve years to build. We started in 94 and finished in '79.
5 Excuse me. We started in 1974 and finished in 1975 (sic). So,
6 a period of nearly five years.
7 That proj ect had excess capacity installed and we
8 grew into it.
9 Q.I'm going to have to let you go back, and I
10 understand your desire to be quick.
11 A.Sorry.
12 Q.But what were the years that that five years of
13 generation plant construction took?
14 A.Yeah, thank you for the clarity here.
15 MR. BUDGE: I'm going to obj ect. We're going way
16 beyond the surrebuttal.
17 MR. HICKEY: Well, he's rebutting the position
18 that Mr. Peseau took this afternoon that he thinks that there
19 is too much capacity at the time of the in-service date of
20 Populus to Terminal, and we're addressing that very point that
21 I understood Mr. Peseau to attempt to make.
22 MR. BUDGE: The witness is now going into
23 projects built in advance of resource, and I don't think that
24 was the subject of his rebuttal testimony nor his cross this
25 afternoon.
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1 MR. HICKEY: But with all due respect, it goes
2 directly to the issue of capacity that was unused at the time
3 of the in-service date of the transmission resource.
4 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay, we'll let him finish
5 this example.
6 THE WITNESS: Okay, I will be quick, I promise.
7 So the dates that Mister excuse me. The dates
8 that were asked: The lines were built in 1973, '75, and '76.
9 The plants began construction and those were four units in
10 1974,' 75, '76, and three years later the fourth unit was built
11 in 1979.
12 So that proj ect had over 2,200 megawatts of
13 capaci ty when those lines were installed. We didn't use all of
14 that for a full five years until the plants were built. Those
15 proj ects did go in-service and in rates for us and Idaho Power.
16 The other one I would like to talk to you really
17 quickly, we had a proj ect in Southern Oregon which we were
18 joint with Bonneville Power in 1992 which was 100 miles of
19 500 kV, and we installed 500 megawatts of capacity. We've been
20 growing into that today and it's still it's being used up to
21 about 1,200. So our companies and our customers have been
22 growing into that for a number of years. Bonneville and
23 ourselves also put that in service, it was rate based, and to
24 the benefit of customers at the time it went in service.
25 Q.BY MR. HICKEY: And then, lastly, do you have any
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2 specifically Mr. Lobb, that based on a per-mile analysis, the
3 Populus to Terminal project -- again, his conclusion -- is at a
4 very high cost per mile?
5 A.Yes. I still disagree with Mr. Lobb' s conclusion
6 that he can determine that this proj ect is overbuilt strictly
7 on a cost-per-mile basis. A cost per mile is not a measure of
8 system capacity, nor performance, and he uses that in his
9 analogy or in his analysis and provides no other reason why
10 that proj ect is overbuilt.
11 Q.Do you have any other rebuttal testimony,
12 Mr. Gerrard?
13 A.Yes, I would. One other comment I would like to
14 make about Mr. Peseau's comment about loads driving Gateway: A
15 glaring absence in his comments, to me, was he didn't mention
16 anything about resources. It was strictly based -- he said the
17 proj ect was not based on loads. He didn't mention anything
18 about resources.
19 And he didn't mention that Southeast Idaho is
20 connected to PacifiCorp' s system on the two -- on two of the
21 top ten most constrained paths in the W-E-C-C. That's Bridger
22 West and it's the number one constrained path in the W-E-C-C,
23 and Path C is the No. 4 constrained path, and both of those
24 feed Idaho. So any resources that are going to serve Southern
25 Idaho are going to have to come from -- excuse me, Southeast
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2 Idaho.
3 So he failed to mention that the next resources
4 our Company has planned, the first one in Utah is over 140
5 miles from Southeast Idaho. The resources we're putting into
6 Wyoming are over 250 miles from Southeast Idaho. To me, that
7 clearly points out there has to be a transport mechanism
8 between where those resources are and where the loads are. I
9 think that was a glaring error.
10 The last thing and my final statement,
11 Mr. Hickey, is the study that was handed out during Mr. Lobb' s
12 cross by Berkeley National Laboratories. I would not sit here
13 and claim that I digested this and read it, but if the
14 Commission would, if it would help them as they think about
15 this, I would like to give you my opinion or my recommend on
16 it.
17 And on page 4 of the executive summary, it talks
18 about the authors used 40 detailed transmission studies to put
19 this report together. The last sentence of their paragraph
20 says: In doing so, we gloss over many important details and
21 differences among those studies in our example.
22 The thing that's not in here and I didn't find it
23 if it's in here, not one of these projects that they have
24 listed here I could find has ever been built, their studies.
25 So as you read this and compare it to Populus-Terminal, it's
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2 it's energized, and we did not have the luxury to ignore simple
3 details.
4 So, with that, hopefully that will help your
5 read.
6 Q.Thank you, Mr. Gerrard.
7 MR. HICKEY: He's available for examination.
8 COMMISS IONER SMITH: Any questions, Mr. Purdy?
9 MR. PURDY: No.
10 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Williams.
11 MR. WILLIAMS: Yes.
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16 Q.Mr. Gerrard, I have one question:
17 Were you aware that in the recent all-source RFP,
18 your Company rejected a 240 megawatt power plant proposed in
19 the Soda Springs area?
20 A.I do not have detailed information on that. That
21 would have to come from our IRP folks. I'm not involved in
22 the -- in evaluation.
23 Q.But that goes to your statement that all loads
24 needed to serve Southeast Idaho are at least 140 megawatts
25 (sic) away. Is that correct?
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1 A.Would you say that one more time?
2 Q.You just testified in rebuttal that all loads
3 necessary to serve Eastern Idaho are more than 140 miles
4 away?
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Did you mean "resources"?
6 Q.BY MR. WILLIAMS: I'm sorry, resources.
7 A.I was specifically talking to the resources that
8 are listed in our integrated resource plan today. Thank you
9 for the clarification. That was my point.
10 Q.All right.
11 MR. WILLIAMS: Thank you.
12 MR. OLSEN: No questions.
13 MR. OTTO: No questions.
14 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Woodbury.
15 MR. WOODBURY: Thank you, Madam Chair.
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Q.Just to clarify things, would you accept that
21 Staff presented -- which has been marked as Exhibit 133 -- the
22 Ernest Orlando Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratories study on
23 the cost of transmission for wind energy, an excerpt from that;
24 was not challenging the cost of the Populus-Terminal
25 transmission line and its cost per mile analysis, but really
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1 Staff's testimony only challenges the amount that should be
2 presently rate based as used and useful in this rate case?
3 A.Is that a question?
4 Q.Yes.
5 A.Would you rephrase it?
6 Q.Would you accept that we didn't present this
7 study to challenge the cost of the Populus-Terminal line?
8 A.I thought it was aimed at cost. The table that
9 was pointed to was specifically referred to and pointed at cost
10 and cost differences, so that's what I heard.
11 Q.But don't you read Staff's testimony as really
12 not challenging the overall cost of the line, but only
13 addressing the amount that should be presently rate based?
14 A.That's how I understand the testimony, and my
15 disagreement is they are using the cost of the line, Mr. Lobb
16 is, to make his assessment of what should be -- what the
17 capaci ty should be placed in service.
Q.I would concede that all of the proj ects that
19 were identified in their study are different than the Company's
20 Populus to Terminal line.
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A.Uh-huh.
Q.And that may be of an older vintage. But it,
23 nevertheless, doesn't change the result that the Company's line
24 is really much higher in cost per mile than any of those
25 others.
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2 otherwise an uncomparable line to the Populus-Terminal, I would
3 like to see. If you could provide that to Staff, we would like
4 to see it.
5 A.I do not have anything else to offer.
6 MR. WOODBURY: Thank you.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Budge.
8 MR. BUDGE: One question.
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13 Q. Mr. Gerrard, did you not recognize also that
14 Dr. Peseau' s testimony similarly did not challenge the need or
15 the cost of the proj ect i he simply asserted that the rate base
16 treatment should be deferred because it's not used and useful?
17 Did you not read that in his testimony as well?
18 A.I did read in his testimony that he felt it
19 shouldn't be rate based because it was a speculative proj ect
20 and its capacity would not be useful.
21 Q.And wasn't his analysis in support of his
22 conclusion that it was not used and useful, not that it
23 shouldn't have been built?
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2 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you.
3 Do we have any further questions from the
4 Commissioners?
5 COMMISSIONER REDFORD: No.
6 COMMISSIONER KEMPTON: None.
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Any redirect?
8 MR. HICKEY: Just one.
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13 Q.Do you have an opinion as to whether or not
14 Populus to Terminal is used and useful, and if so, what is it
15 based upon?
16 A.Yeah, my expert opinion with the experience I
17 have, more than 30 years, is that that proj ect is used and
18 useful. And I demonstrated that.
19 It is energized. The capacity can be used for
20 the benefit of all of our customers, including those in
21 Southeast Idaho, and that it is sized for the capacity that we
22 need today and the capacity that all of the information I have
23 today shows that we were going to need at least 20 years from
24 now. And I also provided economics that showed that it is the
25 right cost for what we've done.
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2 MR. HICKEY: That concludes our rebuttal case.
3 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Thank you very much.
4 We appreciate your help, Mr. Gerrard.
5 THE WITNESS: Thank you for your patience.
6 (The witness left the stand.)
7 COMMISSIONER SMITH: This brings us to the
8 conclusion of our technical hearing. I am assuming that no
9 party feels the need to file any brief. Is there a different
10 opinion out there? Mr. Purdy.
11 MR. PURDY: I'm afraid that there is.
12 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay.
13 MR. PURDY: And just for the record, if I might
14 very briefly enumerate the reasons why:
15 As I indicated at the outset, I think this case
16 is very appropriate, at least for my client's purposes, for a
17 posthearing brief. The four main reasons are as follows:
18 I think most of us would agree that this was a
19 somewhat complex case, especially in light of the Monsanto
20 issue and need to try to tip-toe between that specific matter
21 and everything else.
22 There was -- the hearing transcript record itself
23 will be rather voluminous and complex with all the
24 surrebuttals, and parties, including myself, my client, were
25 gi ven considerable latitude during additional direct to present
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2 that though the Commission comes into these hearings very well
3 prepared, so much happens during hearings like this that it is
4 important, I think, at the end to go back and very concisely,
5 in a very abbreviated fashion, capture using the hearing
6 transcript not only the things that were put on the record but
7 the things that were not, which can be equally important.
8 And with respect -- and, third, there were, I
9 believe, a number of legal issues raised that a lot of the
10 parties couldn't testify to but lawyers could quickly and
11 effectively address in a posthearing brief.
12 And, finally, with respect to Community Action's
13 interest, though Rocky Mountain Power I have to believe was or
14 should have been well aware that my client would intervene in
15 this case when it made its direct filing, and was well aware of
16 what my client's issues of concern are, when I went through the
17 ini tial filing and I simply typed in under the find box the
18 words "low income," I came up with virtually nothing. The
19 Company obviously chose -- it did not have a legal
20 requirement to make a filing regarding low-income
21 weatherization or any low-income issues, but it certainly knew
22 that my client would be here and would be interested in those
23 issues; it chose not to.
24 And what that effectively did, Madam Chair and
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2 case, which then gave the Company essentially the last word on
3 an issue that I think really Community Action effectively
4 carries the burden on. And while the Commission again granted
5 us generous latitude and additional direct and whatnot, there's
6 really no substitute for a brief to go back through and point
7 out the things that, well, I think what were the deficiencies
8 in the Company's case and why it was difficult for my client to
9 respond to those deficiencies when the Company had the last
10 word. The posthearing brief would do a lot for assuaging those
11 concerns.
12 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy, what legal --
13 what specific legal issues are you thinking need to be briefed?
14 MR. PURDY: Well, among other things -- and I
15 honestly don't have them all listed out, Madam Chair, but I
16 think that for my client i s issues, it will be necessary to go
17 back and look at prior cases and prior cases' Orders and
18 attempt to determine what obligations Rocky Mountain Power had
19 with respect to various things like conducting evaluations of
20 the low-income weatherization program, did they meet those
21 obligations, did the Company follow prior Commission Orders in
22 other respects.
23 Yeah, I'm sorry, it's late and we're all tired,
24 but I just have a sense that there are some legal issues. And,
25 again, I think that the Commission could -- clearly, I know the
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2 a way that would allow the parties a reasonable chance to just
3 get their issues out on paper quickly but not drag this out and
4 expand the scope of the case.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: So if we said a ten-page
6 brief on issues dealing with low-income weatherization, would
7 that satisfy you?
8 MR. PURDY: Yes, it would.
9 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Any other party feel the
10 need for brief?
11 MR. HICKEY: On behalf of the Applicant, we
12 don't. And with all due respect to Mr. Purdy, I don't think
13 he's articulated a legal issue that under the standard that I
14 understood posthearing briefs would be filed could be met. I
15 didn't hear a concise legal issue, but we'll follow the
16 direction of the Chair. We don't see a need for a brief.
17 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Let me caucus with my
18 colleagues. We'll go at ease for a few moments.
19 (Discussion off the record.)
COMMISSIONER SMITH: All right, let's go back on
21 the record.
22 Mr. Purdy, the transcript will be ready two weeks
23 from tomorrow. So when did you plan that you could have any
24 written document to the Commission?
25 MR. PURDY: I would think that I'LL gladly work
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2 the transcript i perhaps I could work that out with the court
3 reporter to expedite that process. But regardless, once I
4 recei ve those transcripts, certainly wi thin seven to ten days I
5 can turn something around.
6 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay.
7 MR. PURDY: Quicker if you need me to.
8 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Everyone is aware, of
9 course, that it's the Commission's intention to issue an
10 interim Order before the first of the year putting into place
11 rates, except the one remaining issue is the economic value of
12 Monsanto's curtailment which will be held in a separate hearing
13 and then the final Order will go out after that hearing. So I
14 guess I'm trying to fit this in the schedule. And the
15 deliberations the Commission has already scheduled are on the
16 21st, 22nd, and 23rd of December.
17 MR. PURDY: All right. Today being the 2nd, if I
18 got the transcripts by the 16th. I mean, I can draft the
19 maj ori ty of the brief ahead of time, simply get my hands on the
20 transcript, fill in the blanks. I don't see why I couldn't get
21 that -- 16th -- to you --
22 I'm sorry, Madam Chair, did you say the 23rd
23 you were going to
24 COMMISSIONER SMITH: 21st, -2nd, and -3rd.
25 MR. PURDY: 21st, -2nd, and -3rd. I i II do what
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2 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay. Well, then I guess we
3 are willing to accommodate your desire for a posthearing
4 filing, which I don't think will be a legal brief. I mean, we
5 don't see legal issues. But if you have any, you can raise
6 them in that.
7 And then the Company, of course, would have an
8 opportunity to respond.
9 MR. HICKEY: I honestly don't believe that
10 there's any need to respond to the brief, but I appreciate the
11 Commission affording us the opportunity. My sincere belief is
12 we probably won't be filing a Response to it.
13 COMMISSIONER SMITH: All right. And if you can
14 limi tit to ten to 12 pages, that would be our preference.
15 MR. PURDY: Yes, I can. Thank you.
16 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Excellent.
17 Are there any other matters to come before the
18 Commission before we close the technical phase of this hearing
19 and look forward to our four public hearings in Eastern Idaho?
20 MR. HICKEY: Just on behalf of the Applicant, if
21 I could express the appreciation on behalf of Rocky Mountain
22 Power and at a personal level of being accepted as an attorney
23 up here to practice in front of you under your special rules.
24 I want to say we all admire the work the Commission does and
25 thank you for the opportunity to present the case over these
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2 And I extend a similar appreciation to the
3 parties to the case and the Counsel that we have had the chance
4 to be in the room with the last four days. Thank you, all.
5 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Well, and we appreciate all
6 of you, but, Mr. Hickey, don't get feeling too special, because
7 if you give them money, the Bar will let anybody through, and a
8 very strong union.
9 MR. HICKEY: I'm properly minimized.
10 (Laughter. )
11 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Okay, I want to thank
12 everybody for your cooperation for willing to work late on
13 these evenings so we could conclude by tonight and not go into
14 tomorrow.
15 And the Commission knows the significance of this
16 case and feels the burden that is on us, and we'll do our very
17 best to balance all of the interests that we are required to
18 balance.
19 And we want to especially thank Wendy --
20 MR. HICKEY: Hear hear.
21 COMMISSIONER SMITH:for her perseverance.
22 So, probably won't see all of you in Shelley,
23 Rexburg, Grace, and Preston, but for those of you who will be
24 there, we'll see you then.
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2 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Oh, yes, the telephonic
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4 Thank you everyone.
5 We're adj ourned.
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1 AUTHENTICATION
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4 This is to certify that the foregoing
5 Volumes II through X are true and correct transcripts to the
6 best of my ability of the proceedings held in the matter of the
7 Application of PacifiCorp dba Rocky Mountain Power for approval
8 of changes to its electric service schedules, Case No.
9 PAC-E-10-07, commencing on Tuesday, November 30, 2010 through
10 Thursday, December 2, 2010, at the Commission Hearing Room, 472
11 West Washington, Boise, Idaho, and the originals thereof for
12 the file of the Commission.
13 Accuracy of all prefiled testimony as
14 originally submitted to this Reporter and incorporated herein
15 at the direction of the Commission is the sole responsibility
16 of the submitting parties.
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in and for the t te of Idaho,
residing at Meri ian, Idaho.
My Commission expires 2-8-2014.
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