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HomeMy WebLinkAbout20060201Vol I Hearing.pdfORIGINAL BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION IN THE MATTER OF THE JOINT APPLICATION OF MIDAMERICAN ENERGY HOLDINGS COMPANY (MEHC) AND PACIFICORP DBA UTAH POWER & LIGHT COMPANY FOR AN ORDER AUTHORIZING MEHC TO ACQUIRE Pl\CIFICORP ) CASE NO. PAC-E-O5-8 '--'- - --1C' -_. i'l :: (j) O_n - ':":". ::'.:: r (J) c'(J) 1": ...J "",) HEARING BEFORE -r.. ,;;:- COMMISSIONER MARSHA H. SMITH (Presiding) COMMISSIONER DENNIS S. HANSEN COMMISSIONER PAUL KJELLANDER PLACE:Commission Hearing Room 472 West Washington Street Boise, Idaho Dl\TE:January 17, 2006 VOLUME I - Pages 1 - 113 ~-~--' HEDRICK POST OFFICE BOX 578 BOISE. IDAHO 83701 208-336-9208 COURT REPORTING ttl't.'f-V tk eotK/f(QJ(!ttI.fIiru 1978 For the Staff:DONALD L. HOWELL, II, Esq. Deputy Attorney General 472 West WashingtonBoise, Idaho 83702 For the Joint Applicants:STOEL RIVES LLP by JAMES M. VAN NOSTRAND, Esq. 900 Southwest Fifth Avenue Suite 2600Portland, Oregon 97204 For Monsanto:RACINE OLSON NYE BUDGE & BAILEY by RANDALL C. BUDGE, Esq. 201 East Center Post Office Box 1391 Pocatello, Idaho 83204-1391 For CAPAI:BRAD M. PURDY, Esq. ATTORNEY AT LAW 2019 North Seventeenth StreetBoise, Idaho 83702 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID APPEARANCES 83701 WITNESS PAGE Brent E. Gale (Joint Applicants) Teri Ottens (CAPAI) Mark C. Moench (Joint Applicants) Terri Carlock(Staff) EXAMINATION BY Mr. Van Nostrand (Direct) Prefiled Direct Mr. Van Nostrand (Direct) Mr. Howell (Cross) Commissioner Hansen Mr. Purdy (Direct) Prefiled Direct Mr. Van Nostrand (Direct) Prefiled Direct Mr. Howell (Direct) Prefiled Direct Prefiled Supplemental Mr. Van Nostrand (Cross) Commissioner Hansen Commissioner Kj ellander 100 108 109 110 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE, ID 83701 INDEX NUMBER PAGE For the Joint Applicants: MEHC Adoption Prior Commitments Premarked Admitted Combined System Maps Premarked Admitted MEC Base Load Plants Premarked Admitted MEC Facts and Figures Premarked Admi t ted MEC Energy Efficiency Comparisons Premarked AdIDi tted Letters from Communi ties Premarked Admi tted 15.Stipulation and Idaho Commitments Premarked Admi t ted For the Staff: 101.Stipulation Premarked Admi tted 108 Premarked Admitted 108 102.Staff Recommended Modification to Idaho Commitments HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BO IS E , I D EXHIBITS 83701 BOISE, IDAHO, TUESDAY, JANUARY 17, 2006, 9:30 A. COMMI S S lONER SMI TH :Good morning.This is the time and place set for a hearing in Idaho Public Utilities Commission Case No. PAC-05-8, further identified as In the matter of the Joint Application of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company and PacifiCorp, dba Utah Power and Light Company, for an Order authorizing MEHC to acquire PacifiCorp. We I 11 begin this morning with appearances from the parties.First, I will just tell everyone who might not know , my name is Marsha Smi th; I'm one of the three Commissioners on the Idaho Commission.To my left is Paul Kj ellander, the President of the Commission; and to my right is Dennis Hansen.And the three of us are the Commission. So with that, we I 11 begin with the appearances of PacifiCorp and MidAmerica.Are there two lawyers or one? MR. VAN NOSTRAND:Just one, your Honor. behalf of Joint Applicants MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company and PacifiCorp, James M. Van Nostrand, law firm Stoel Rives in Portland. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Thank you, Mr. Van Nostrand. For the Commission Staff. MR . HOWELL:m Donald Howell , Deputy Attorney General, on behalf of the Commission Staff. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID COLLOQUY 83701 COMMISSIONER SMITH:Monsanto. MR. BUDGE:Randy Budge, on behal f of Monsanto. COMMISSIONER SMITH:And how about the Idaho Irrigation Pumpers?The record will reflect there is no one here representing the Pumpers. Idaho Power Company?And no one representing Idaho Power. How about the Community Action Partnership Association of Idaho? MR. PURDY:Yes.Brad Purdy, representing that group.Thank you. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Thank you, Mr. Purdy.Thank you for turning on your mike.That's, according to a note here, one of my responsibilities is to remind you that when you speak , you need to push the little button that says "touch" so that your mike light goes red and people can hear you and the court reporter can get you down. For the IBEW Local 57?No one. And how about J. R. Simplot Company? response. Thank you. Are there preliminary matters that need to come before the Commission before we take up the testimony of the witnesses?Seeing none, then we I 11 turn to Mr. Van Nostrand to present the Company I s case. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID COLLOQUY 83701 Thank you, Madam Chair.lidMR. VAN NOSTRAND: just lay the background of sort of how we got here.It might help you understand how things fit together. The Application was filed on July 15, and subsequent to that, the Energy Policy Act of 1 05 was passed which repealed PUHCA , so that requires a change in the Application and testimony, so we filed a revised Application and testimony on August 16. We had settlement discussions on November 2nd and December 8th , and we reached a Stipulation which was filed with the Commission on December 16th.And at the time the Stipulation was filed with the Commission, there had been settlements reached in Oregon -- 11 m sorry -- Utah and California, and sub- - - and subj ect to the most favored nations provisions process that we have, the parties then met again last week to see which commitments from the Oregon Stipulation would be added to Idaho.So we have Terri Carlock I s testimony today picks up some of these additional commitments from Oregon that the parties want to adopt in Idaho.So I hope that gives you some idea where we are. This morning, on behalf of the Joint Applicants, we I re proposing to offer the testimony of Brent Gale, and he will describe sort of how we got where we are and the commi tments and the Stipulation in Idaho.And we I re also proposing to offer testimony of Mark Moench, who filed HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID COLLOQUY 83701 testimony on December 20th in support of the Stipulation. had an agreement among the parties that these would be the two witnesses that the Joint Applicants would call , and that everyone was acceptable just having these two witnesses here on behalf of the Joint Applicants this morning. So if there are no questions, we I d like to proceed by calling Mr. Brent Gale. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay. MR. GALE:Good morning. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Good morning. BRENT E. GALE produced as a witness at the instance of the Joint Applicants, being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. VAN NOSTRAND: Will you state your name again , Mr. Gale? Certainly.Brent E. Gale, G- And who are you employed by, Mr. Gale? I I m employed by MidAmerican Energy Company, which is a subsidiary of MidAmerican Energy Holding Company. Okay.What is your position with MidAmerican Energy? HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Di) Joint Applicants I I m senior vice president of legislation and regulation. What are your responsibilities in that position? My responsibilities include regulatory affairs, regulatory strategy, legislative strategy on a state level legislative relations, regulatory relations, rates, revenue design -- or, revenue requirements, rate design , cost of service.Also, mergers and acquisitions of regulated utility companies , and some other - - other duties as assigned. And did you have occasion to file direct testimony in this proceeding? Yes, I did. And that was accompanied by exhibits as well? Yes, that is correct.I believe there were seven exhibits. And was your testimony revised in supplemental testimony filed on August 16th? Yes, it was. Do you have any additions or corrections to make to your testimony or exhibits? No, I do not. Okay.If I asked you the questions set forth in your testimony, would your answers be the same as set forth therein? Yes, subj ect to , of course , events that have HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Di) Joint Applicants occurred in the six months following the filing of the testimony. And exhibits were prepared under your direction and supervision? Yes, they were. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:Madam Chair , I I d move the admission of Mr. Gale's direct testimony and exhibits. COMMISSIONER SMITH:If there I s no objection , the direct testimony will be spread upon the record as if read, and Exhibits will be identified as Exhibits 2 through 7? THE WITNESS:Yes, I believe that I s correct. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay.Thank you. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Mr. Gale is spread upon the record. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID GALE (Di) Joint Applicants83701 Introduction Please state your name and business address. My name is Brent E. Gale. My business address is 666 Grand Avenue, Suite 2600, Des Moines, Iowa 50309. By whom are you employed and in what position? I am Senior Vice President, Legislation & Regulation, for MidAmerican Energy Company ("MEC"), a subsidiary and business platform of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company ("MEHC" Please describe the responsibilities of your current position. My primary responsibilities for MEC include U.S. regulatory and legislative strategic planning, state legislative relations, federal and state regulatory relations, rates, regulated cost of service, rate design, utility acquisitions, representation of MEC's interest in North America regarding electric and gas industry restructuring, and providing advice and assistance to MEHC regarding federal legislative policy. Please describe your background. I received a B.A. degree from Drake University in 1972 and a J.D. degree, also from Drake, in 1976. After graduation I joined one ofMEC's predecessor companies, holding positions of attorney, general counsel and vice president- general counsel. After the formation of MEC, I held the positions of vice president-regulatory law & analysis and vice president-legislation & regulation. I am licensed to practice law in all state courts of Iowa, before the federal court for the Southern District of lllinois and before the District of Columbia Gale, Di - 1 PacifiCorp Circuit. I am a member of the Iowa State Bar Association, the EEl Legal Committee, the EEl Energy Delivery and Public Policy Executive Advisory Committee, the boards of the lllinois Energy Association, the lllinois Institute for Regulatory Policy Studies, and the New Mexico State Center for Public Utilities. During my career, I have spoken before numerous consumer, industry, and national and international regulatory conferences, most recently upon the topics of renewable energy, alternative regulation, electric restructuring, and generation portfolio diversity. I have also participated extensively in the negotiation and drafting of electric and gas legislation in several states and at the federal level. I have previously testified before the Iowa Utilities Board, lllinois Commerce Commission and in the courts of Iowa and lllinois. Summary of Testimony What is the purpose of your direct testimony in this proceeding? The purpose of my testimony is as follows: to provide evidence that the transaction will be in the public interest and to sponsor some of the commitments that are being offered to protect the interests of consumers; to identify the similarities between PacifiCorp and MEC; to discuss the experience of MEC as evidence of how a regulated utility can be expected to operate as a subsidiary of MEHC; and to discuss the various shareholder, state and federal approvals required for completion of the transaction. Gale, Di - 2 PacifiCorp Please summarize your testimony. My testimony provides evidence that the transaction is in the public interest and will not harm the ability of PacifiCorp to provide adequate and reliable service to its customers in all states that it is privileged to serve. This evidence includes the pro-active offer by MEHC and PacifiCorp to adopt a uniform set of transaction commitments based upon the commitments in all states from PacifiCorp s prior transaction. My testimony also includes a detailed discussion of MEC' experience as an MEHC subsidiary and the similarities between MEC and PacifiCorp. The Transaction is in the Public Interest You have said that MERC's acquisition ofPacifiCorp will be in the public interest and that commitments will be undertaken to ensure that customers are protected. What is the basis for your statement? My reasoning is based upon the following: As part of my testimony, MEHC and PacifiCorp will adopt a uniform set of commitments that are based upon the commitments undertaken by PacifiCorp as a part of the prior merger transaction; these uniform commitments will be extended to all six states, not just the states that requested a particular commitment in the previous PacifiCorp transaction. Also as part of my testimony, in recognition of the differences among the states, MEHC and PacifiCorp will offer to continue several state-specific commitments undertaken by PacifiCorp in the previous transaction. As part ofMEHC witness Mr. Abel's testimony, MEHC and PacifiCorp will offer numerous new commitments involving generation options transmission investment, clean air investment, energy efficiency, customer service and other important matters. Gale, Di - 3 PacifiCorp REVISED 8/17/05 PacifiCorp will become a separate business platform under MEHC, with its own business plan, its own management, its own state policies, and the responsibility for making decisions that achieve the objectives identified in the testimony ofMEHC witness Mr. Abel (i., customer satisfaction reliable service, employee safety, environmental stewardship, and regulatory/legislative credibility). The many similarities between MEC and PacifiCorp will facilitate a,n easy transition ofPacifiCorp as a separate subsidiary ofMEHC. MEC's operations, as a subsidiary ofMERC, provide demonstrable evidence that PacifiCorp will have the ability to continue its emphasis on key utility performance areas such as: customer service; safety; integrated resource planning; a balanced mix of generating resources, including renewable generation; use of energy efficiency and demand-side management ("DSM"); investment in environmental emission control technology; and collaborative processes. MEHC and PacifiCorp Commitments Please explain the uniform set of commitments you referenced. MERC and PacifiCorp have reviewed the commitments required by the six states in the Scottish Power pIc ("ScottishPower ) transaction. We have also met with numerous groups that may have an interest in this transaction and asked them to identify the risks and concerns that they have at this time. Exhibit No.2 responds to the risks and concerns addressed in the previous PacifiCorp transaction and to many ofthe risks and concerns that have been raised in the meetings with interested groups. This Exhibit identifies MERC' and PacifiCorp s commitments to address these risks and concerns. The new commitments sponsored by MERC witness Mr. Abel address other concerns expressed in the meetings with interested groups. MEHC and PacifiCorp propose that the commitments in this Exhibit and those in MEHC witness Mr. Abel' Exhibit No., supersede prior commitments and apply upon the close of the Gale, Di - 4 PacifiCorp transaction. Section I of Exhibit No.2 identifies commitments that address customer service, regulatory oversight, financial integrity, revenue requirements impact, the environment, communities, employees and planning. The commitments in Section I will be applied uniformly to all six states. We are applying these commitments uniformly to simplify administration for everyone involved, including PacifiCorp, and to ensure equitable treatment of customers in all six states. The pro-active adoption of these commitments by MEHC is important evidence that there will be no harm to the public interest from the transaction. Moreover, MEHCbelieves the uniform application of the commitments in Exhibit No.2 to all states also provides evidence of benefits from the transaction. MEHC understands that no single state was previously provided all of these commitments. Thus, with the uniform application of these commitments in all states, each state will be receiving commitments that previously were not applicable to it. In other words, each state is receiving new benefits and protections for customers and the public. While I am sponsoring all of the commitments in Exhibit No., MEHC witnesses Mr. Goodman and Mr. Specketer in their testimony discuss some of the regulatory oversight, revenue requirements and the financial commitments in greater detail. The commitments that they discuss are identified in my Exhibit No. Gale, Di - 5 PacifiCorp Where do you address the state-specific commitments by MEHC and PacifiCorp related to the prior transaction? These state-specific commitments are in Section n of Exhibit No.2. These commitments reflect MEHC's understanding of commitments previously made by PacifiCorp that reflect unique or state-specific issues. What is the purpose of the provisions in Section III of that Exhibit? These are administrative provisions that previously applied in one or more states. We believe these should be applied uniformly in all states to simplify administration and to ensure equitable application of the commitments in all jurisdictions. Similarities between PacifiCorp and MEC Why do you believe the similarities between PacifiCorp and MEC provide evidence that the proposed transaction will be in the public interest and not harm the interests of consumers? There are several reasons. First, the existence of these similarities means that MEHC has experience with the types of issues and risks that confront PacifiCorp. Second, the existence of the similarities means that MEC and PacifiCorp have experiences and advice that can be shared to enable them to better pursue the objectives of customer satisfaction, reliable service, employee safety, environmental stewardship and regulatory/legislative credibility. Third, the similarities suggest compatible corporate cultures that should facilitate PacifiCorp s transition to a business platform of MEHC, Fourth, in meetings with interested parties prior to the filing of this testimony, one of the most frequently Gale, Di - 6 Pacifi Corp , 13 offered comments was to the effect that it was one thing to "talk the talk" but most were interested in whether PacifiCorp, under MEHC, would "walk the walk." MEC's operation as a business platform under MEHC provides demonstrable evidence of how that company has "walked the walk." What are some of the similarities between PacifiCorp and MEC that you deem significant? The most significant of the similarities are as follows: The utilities operate in contiguous states. Wholesale transactions, interconnections and positive relationships with non-jurisdictional (public power and cooperative) utilities are important to the conduct and financial health of the business. The presence of the non-jurisdictional utilities creates unique challenges and opportunities for transmission planning, coordination and operation. A demonstrable focus upon customer satisfaction is indicated by independent survey results. A willingness to utilize renewable energy technologies has been demonstrated where the utilization is cost-effective for customers and there is an opportunity for a fair return to shareholders. A willingness to make significant investments in infrastructure improvements has been demonstrated where the investments are cost- effective for customers and there is an opportunity for a fair return to shareholders. Investments in DSM and energy efficiency programs are made to the full extent determined to be cost-effective by applicable state standards. Collaborative processes are employed to develop environmental, DSM and energy efficiency programs. Low-sulfur, Western-basin coals are the only coals used for generation and provide more than 80% of the energy serving bundled retail customers. Coal shipping options are the Burlington Northern and Union Pacific railroads. The delivered cost of coal is among the lowest in the United States. Wind, natural gas and hydro are included in the regulated generation portfolio, with the percentage of wind capacity projected to comprise a significant portion of the portfolio by 2010, if cost-effective. There is a demonstrable commitment to employee safety. There is a need to plan for and deal with adverse weather conditions impacting the reliability of the delivery systems to the extent economical Gale, Di - 7 PacifiCorp REVISED 8/17/05 and practicable; such conditions include ice, floods, tornados, storms and snow. Regulated delivery and electric supply services are provided in multiple state jurisdictions, with at least one state having competitive retail electric supply access. The economy ofthe service area is significantly tied to the land (agriculture, forestry, and mining). On the whole, the area served has a comparatively low-density population except for a few major population centers. The maps attached to Exhibit No.3 provide some additional information regarding the similarities. MidAmerican Energy Company Please provide some historical background on MEC. MEC and its predecessor corporations (M., Iowa Power Inc., Iowa-Illinois Gas and Electric Company, Iowa Public Service Company and their respective predecessors) have been providing electric service in Iowa, Illinois and South Dakota for approximately 100 years. MEC is the product of a merger between Midwest Power Systems Inc. and Iowa-Illinois Gas and Electric Company in 1995. Midwest Power Systems Inc., in turn, was the result of a prior merger between Iowa Power Inc. and Iowa Public Service Company 1 in 1992. In 1999 MEC was acquired by CalEnergy Company Inc. (subsequently known as MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company" or "MEHC"), and in 2000, MEHC and an investor group comprised of Berkshire Hathaway Inc, Walter Scott, Jr. (a director ofMEHC), David Sokol (Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of MEHC), and 1 The utilities' parent holding companies (non-registered , exempt holding companies), Iowa Resources Inc. and Midwest Energy Company, were previously merged in 1990 creating a new holding company (also a non-registered, exempt holding company) called Midwest Resources Inc. Gale, Di - 8 PacifiCorp Greg Abel (President and Chief Operating Officer of MEHC), closed on a definitive agreement and plan of merger whereby the investor group, together with certain of Mr. Scott's family members and family trusts and corporations acquired all of the outstanding common stock of MEHc. Where and how does MEC provide electric service? MEC provides electric service in Iowa, lllinois and South Dakota, and is the largest utility in Iowa. It provides service to more than 690,000 electric customers and more than 670 000 natural gas customers in a 10 600 square-mile area from Sioux Falls, South Dakota to the Quad Cities area of Iowa and lllinois. The largest communities served by MidAmerican are Des Moines, Cedar Rapids Sioux City, Waterloo, Iowa City and Council Bluffs, Iowa; the Quad Cities area of Iowa and lllinois; and Sioux Falls, South Dakota. I have provided a map of the areas served by MEC in my Exhibit No. After MEC's 360.5 MW wind project is completed in 2005 , and its 790 MW Council Bluffs Energy Center Unit No.4 is also completed in 2007, the company will meet the needs of its electric customers with more than 6,100 megawatts of generating capability: approximately 59 percent fueled by coal; 26 percent by natural gas and oil; 8 percent by wind, hydroelectric and biomass; and 7 percent by nuclear. MEC has majority ownership in four of the five jointly- owned coal-fueled generating stations in Iowa, and a forty percent ownership in the fifth. Exhibit No.4 shows the locations ofMEC's base-load generating facilities. In Exhibit No.5), I have provided some basic facts and figures related to MEC's performance. Gale, Di - 9 PacifiCorp Customer Service Would it be reasonable for the Commission to expect no diminution in PacifiCorp s performance in the area of customer service as a consequence of the transaction? Based on MEC's experience , the transaction will not diminish PacifiCorp performance in this area. MEC has a strong track record of success in satisfying its customers. In both 2004 and 2005, MEC's electric business customers ranked MEC fIrst in the Midwest for overall customer satisfaction, according to the J. Power and Associates study. In 2004, the J. D. Power and Associates residential electric study results placed MEC in a tie for first place in the Midwest on overall customer satisfaction, and the residential gas study placed MEC in a tie for second place in the Midwest on overall customer satisfaction. The following performance factors were included in the respective customer satisfaction studies: Communications with Customers (Business Study); Power Quality and Reliability (Business and Residential Studies); Billing and Payment (Business and Residential Studies); Customer Service (Business and Residential Studies); Company Image (Business and Residential Studies); Price (Business Study); and Price and Value (Residential Study). Please describe MEC's relationship with its major customer stakeholders. Our largest 800 customers are assigned energy consultants who are capable of assisting customers with unique needs such as energy efficiency, power quality, gas transportation and metering. MEC's interruptible qedit program, which offers customers an opportunity to achieve price reductions, has been popular Gale, Di - 10 PacifiCorp among larger customers, with 197 MW of load control currently enrolled. MEC also works constructively with its largest customers to ensure the rates they pay are based on their costs of service and appropriately reflect any benefits that the customers bring to the retail system ~, interruptibility, co-generation). In 2004, our large commercial and industrial customers rated us second in the nation on overall customer satisfaction in the TQS Research Inc. study. Energy Efficiency and DSM Please discuss MEC's experience with energy efficiency programs and DSM programs. MEC and its predecessors have offered cost-effective, energy efficiency and DSM programs in Iowa for more than fifteen (15) years. MEC is represented on the boards of the Consortium for Energy Efficiency and the Peak Load Management Alliance and is a member of the Midwest Energy Efficiency Alliance. Similar to PacifiCorp, MEC has received numerous state and federal awards for its programs. MEC estimates that customer demand has been reduced by some 220 MW through DSM programs and some 180 MW from energy efficiency programs. Further, customer annual energy requirements have been reduced by some 500 000 MWh as a result of the DSM and energy efficiency programs. These impacts are taken into account in MEC's resource planning analyses. Does MEC have state approved energy efficiency plans? Yes. MEC's plans are reviewed and approved by Iowa regulators, usually every three to five years. Through the review and approval process, the Iowa regulators determine which programs proposed by MEC meet the tests for cost- Gale, Di - 11 PacifiCorp effectiveness, as discussed below. MEC's actual plan expenditures have exceeded budget for several years due to the success of and demand for the programs. For example, in 2004 MEC's actual plan expenditures compared to budgeted plan expenditures were $35.1 million (actual) and $31.3 million (budgeted), respectively. In 2003, MEC's actual versus budgeted expenditures were $31.2 million versus $20.1 million, respectively. A comparison, on a program-by-program basis, for these same years is provided in my Exhibit No. MEC utilizes a collaborative process to determine which energy efficiency and DSM programs it will offer for consideration by regulators. The company most recent collaborative process involved roughly a dozen different parties. order to be included in MEC's plan, programs must pass a feasibility screening process that incorporates a societal test. The societal test is an economic test that compares the present value of the costs and the benefits over the useful life of an energy efficiency program or DSM program from a societal perspective. Exceptions to the requirement to pass the cost-benefit tests are provided by rule for low-income and tree-planting programs. MEC's plans have included all programs that were identified as feasible and cost effective. You mentioned MEC'Iowa programs. What about Illinois and South Dakota? These states previously have not been as interested as Iowa in energy efficiency and DSM programs being offered by regulated utilities. However, that may change in Illinois as regulators, at the Governor' s reques~, are considering whether to allow such programs. MEC is an active participant in the Illinois Gale, Di - 12 PacifiCorp process and is encouraging the state to allow it to extend its Iowa programs to lllinois consumers. Environmental Actions What has been the experience of MEHC and MEC regarding environmental stewardship? MEHC is committed to responsible stewardship ofthe environment and, in 2000 adopted a policy of "Environmental RESPECT" that guides its corporate commitment to the environment. MEHC is a world leader in geothermal energy development and believes that good environmental management is a good business practice. Once again this is revealed in MEC's performance. Does MEC have a plan to address future air emission reduction requirements? Yes. MEC in 2001 helped the state ofIowa develop and adopt an energy and environmental policy reflected in House File 577. Pursuant to that law, regulated utilities such as MEC develop, through a collaborative process, a multi-year plan and budget for managing regulated emissions from their coal-fueled facilities in a cost-effective manner. Mandatory participants in the review and approval process for that plan and budget are the Iowa Utilities Board, the Iowa Office of Consumer Advocate and the Iowa Department of Natural Resources. To be approved, the plan and budget must: (1) meet applicable state environmental requirements; (2) be expected to achieve cost-effective compliance with applicable state environmental requirements and federal ambient air quality standards; and (3) reasonably balance costs, environmental requirements Gale, Di - 13 PacifiCorp economic development potential, and reliability of the electric generation and transmission systems. The state agencies concerned with environmental matters and utility rates are involved in the collaborative process with the result that the reasonableness and prudence of the environmental plan is determined prior to its implementation. Does MEC have an approved environmental plan? Yes. MEC filed its first multi-year environmental plan and budget with the Iowa Utilities Board and the Iowa Department of Natural Resources in April 2002. That plan addressed MEC's projected air emission reductions considering legislative and regulatory proposals at the time, and described a coordinated long- range plan to achieve those air emissions reductions. The plan proposed specific actions to be taken at each MEC coal-fueled facility and related costs and timing for each action through the year 2010. The Iowa Utilities Board approved the plan on July 17 2003 , covering the period April 1 , 2002 to April 1 , 2004, and adopted a process to review the plan every two years. MEC filed its most recent plan on April 1 , 2004, and that plan was approved by the Iowa Utilities Board on October 4, 2004. This plan covers the period from April 1 , 2004 through December 31 2006. Did the plan approved by the Iowa Utilities Board include the addition of emissions controls? Yes. MEC's approved initial plan (2002 - 2004) called for installing six neural networks at Council Bluffs Energy Center Unit No., George Neal Energy Center Unit Nos. 1-, and Riverside Generating Station Unit No.5 during the period Gale, Di - 14 PacifiCorp ending March 31 , 2004. All six neural networks were installed during the 2002- 2004 plan period. The current approved plan (2004-2006) continues the addition of NOx controls with the installation of low NOx burners and overfire air at Council Bluffs Energy Center Unit Nos. 1-, George Neal Energy Center Unit Nos. 1-, and Louisa Generating Station. Low NOx burners have been installed so far at the Neal 3 and Louisa units, with work continuing on the remaining units through 2007. Was MEC required to make these reductions in NOx emissions? No. MEC has voluntarily moved forward to reduce the NOx emissions from its facilities. Doing so voluntarily, in advance of required reductions, affords MEC the advantages of (1) being able to appropriately plan the installation of equipment during the respective units ' normal outage time and duration; (2) achieving cost savings by aggregating the projects into a single contract to take advantage of volume discounts; and (3) achieving NOx reductions earlier allowing impacted states to begin realizing benefits sooner than ajust-in-time installation would provide. Will these voluntary NOx reductions make a significant difference in the MEC NOx emissions? Yes. Prior to this voluntary initiative, the ~EC coal-fueled facilities had an average rate of NOx emissions of 0.41Ibs/mmbtu. By the latter part of 2007 with the completion of the low NOx burner installations, MEC is projected to be at an average NOx emissions rate from the coal-fired facilities of 0.21Ibs/mmbtu. This is a 49 percent reduction in NOx emissions that will benefit all impacted Gale, Di - 15 Pacifi Corp states. In addition to the NOx controls, do you anticipate any near-term reductions in SO2 and mercury? Yes. MEC has analyzed the Clean Air Interstate and Clean Air Mercury rules as promulgated by EP A, and MEC will seek approval in July 2005 for an environmental plan that includes the installation of a scrubber and baghouse at Louisa Generating Station. In addition, in 2003 MEC was the first company to commit to the installation of an activated carbon injection system for the control of emissions at the new Council Bluffs Energy Center Unit No., which is scheduled to come on-line in June 2007. Do you anticipate seeking approval for additional emission controls as a part of the environmental plan process? Yes. Although compliance with the reduction requirements can be achieved by installing controls or meeting the emission reduction obligations by obtaining sufficient allowances to cover the annual emissions or some combination of the two compliance mechanisms, I anticipate that MEC as a part of the environmental planning process will seek approval for significant investments in controls between now and 2018. Is equivalent environmental planning required of MEC in other states where it provides service? There are no equivalent requirements in MEC's other states, but all impacted states benefit from MEC's Iowa-approved environment~l activities. Gale, Di - 16 PacifiCorp Renewable Generation How do you expect the transaction to affect PacifiCorp s commitment to renewable generation resources? I expect that PacifiCorp s commitment in this area will be undiminished and perhaps even strengthened by MEC's experience with owning and operating wind energy facilities and MEHC's experience owning and operating geothermal facilities. MEHC and MEC are leaders in the ownership of renewable resources particularly geothermal (MEHC) and wind in a regulated portfolio (MEC). How much geothermal generation does MEHC own? Worldwide, MEHC has 14 geothermal facilities in California and the Philippines. It also owns and operates an innovative hydro-electric and irrigation project in the Philippines and is evaluating the development of one of the largest geothermal projects (215 MW) in the world in California. What is MEC's experience with wind and renewable resources? MEC is in the midst of constructing a 360.5 MW wind project, one of the largest land-based wind projects in the world. This project was undertaken without a state mandate. The project will occupy two sites in Iowa to obtain wind resource diversity. In 2004, MEC placed 160.5 MW of the project into service, and another 200 MW will be placed into service by the end of 2005. The sites were developed in coordination with two developers, enXco, Inc. and Clipper Windpower Development Company, Inc. MEC owns and operates the project as part of its regulated portfolio. The all-in cost of the wind energy, with the federal production tax credit, is projected to be about three (3) cents per kWh over the life Gale, Di - 17 PacifiCorp of the facilities. In addition, MEC purchases or owns another 127.6 MW of capacity from renewable energy sources, including: wind (112.5 MW purchased capacity), hydro (3.6 MW of owned capacity), and biomass (11.5 MW of purchased capacity). MEC and another utility are also owners of Ottumwa Generating Station where supplementing Powder River Basin coal with switch grass is being tested. Once MEC's wind farm construction is completed, and after completion of its new Council Bluffs Energy Center Unit No., renewable energy in MEC's generation portfolio will equal approximately 8 percent of nameplate capacity and 5 percent of energy production, assuming a 34 percent annual average capacity factor at the MEC-owned wind project. Resource Selection Based on MEC's experience, how can the transaction be expected to affect PacifiCorp s resource planning process? MEHC expects its energy business platforms to follow the planning method preferred in the states where it operates. Obviously, there are limitations to such an approach. For instance, if the preferred resource planning methods, state-to- state, become so incompatible as to make efficient resource planning infeasible some effort would need to be undertaken to harmonize the various methodologies. I have some familiarity with PacifiCorp s resource planning process, and I am aware that it has received acclaim for its level of st~eholder input. PacifiCorp s process is recognized as a good, sound approach to resource Gale, Di - 18 PacifiCorp planning. MEHC supports PacifiCorp s continued use of this process for its state jurisdictions. Do MEHC and MEC prefer one variety of generation resource above others? No. In recent years, MEHC business platforms have invested in a broad range of generation technologies, including coal, gas, geothermal and wind. As explained below, MEC is completing its investments in gas combined-cycle generation super-critical western-coal-fired generation and wind generation, all pursuant to a state policy encouraging a diverse portfolio of generation. MEC also utilizes the wholesale market when prudent and cost-effective, as demonstrated by its multi- year power purchase agreements ~., a 250 MW purchase from the Nebraska Public Power District). Does MEC utilize integrated resource planning? Yes, in Iowa. As I have testified, energy efficiency and DSM programs are reviewed and approved by the Iowa Utilities Board. All programs determined to be cost-effective must be implemented before supply options are considered. The supply options are reviewed in separate siting and rate-making principles proceedings before commencement of construction. Integrated planning occurs in the sense that supply options are only considered after taking into account the effects of the utility s energy efficiency and DSM programs. I recognize however, that there are varying degrees of integration used in different jurisdictions within the United States, and the meaning of "integrated resource planning" may vary significantly. Gale, Di - 19 PacifiCorp Generation and Transmission Operations Please provide some insight into MEHC's philosophy regarding operation of a utility s generation facilities. Again, I will point to our experience at MEc. MEC has decades of experience operating traditional generation facilities and owning such facilities jointly with other utilities, including investor-owned, municipal and cooperative utilities. Refer for example to Exhibit No.7. MEC has some of the lowest cost coal-fueled plants in the nation. Power magazine, a publication for the electric generation industry, recently named MEC's Iowa-based electric plants among the best in the nation. Power annually ranks the country s top plants, and MEC had four among the top 22 coal-fueled plants in the category of lowest-cost producers. MEC's experience in cooperative relationships with other utilities, public and private, and in the safe and efficient operation of base-load generating plants matches well with that of PacifiCorp. Again, our MEC experience attests to the fact that MEHC's ownership of PacifiCorp will result in a continuation of the good practices for which PacifiCorp is known. Has MEC invested in nuclear generation? By virtue of a predecessor corporation s investment, MEC has a 25 percent ownership interest in both units at Quad Cities Nuclear Power Station, for a total of 437 MW of accredited capacity. The units are operated by the owner of the remaining 75 percent of the units, Exelon Generation Company, LLC ("Exelon In 2004, Exelon obtained license renewals from the Nu~lear Regulatory Commission, permitting operation of both Quad Cities units through December Gale, Di - 20 PacifiCorp 2032. These two units represent MEC's only ownership interest in nuclear generation. Will PacifiCorp be exposed to any additional risk as a consequence of MEC' ownership of nuclear facilities and nuclear decommissioning obligation? No. MEC is ring-fenced. PacifiCorp will be ring-fenced as well. PacifiCorp will need to construct transmission infrastructure as well as generation infrastructure. What does MEHC's track record suggest with respect to such endeavors? MEHC has recent experience with the construction of transmission facilities through its MEC operations. This experience demonstrates a commitment to working well with regulators and the public in siting and locating vital transmission assets. I believe this to be consistent with PacifiCorp s approach. Please relate MEC's recent experience with transmission. MEC has decades of experience operating its transmission system. Again, MEC jointly owns many such facilities with other utilities, both investor-owned and publicly-owned. Most recently, MEC obtained franchise authority in December 2004 to construct a 122-mile, 345 kV transmission line to integrate its new Council Bluffs Energy Center Unit No.4 with the grid. . The new generating plant will be in service in 2007; the transmission line is due to be in service in 2006. The capital investment in the interconnection facilities and the system additions totals approximately $170 million. The new line itself represents approximately $128 million of investment. MEC was required to use eminent domain authority with respect to only one landowner, having reached voluntary accommodations Gale, Di - 21 PacifiCorp for over 430 easements required along the 122-mile route. Regional Transmission Memberships The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission continues to promote oversight of utility transmission by an independent entity. What has MEHC' approach been with respect to this subject? MEHC's approach has been similar to that ofPacifiCorp, in that both companies efforts have focused upon trying to design solutions that accommodate private and public utilities while balancing costs and benefits. What has been MEC's experience? MEC's approach has been one of caution. MEC has determined that existing RTO membership options ~, MISO and PJM) have not been in the best interests of its customers due to the costs of such membership and the penalties for ending membership. Given the existence of numerous publicly-owned utilities in Iowa and states to the north and west of Iowa, MEC is particularly concerned that unless those entities are also participants, the potential benefits will be limited. MEC previously sought to address this concern by joining the effort to create TRANS Link, an independent transmission company that would encompass both investor-owned and publicly-owned entities. Although the TRANS Link proposal addressed many of the difficult issues surrounding regional operation and pricing of transmission, the Minnesota Public Service Commission and the Iowa Utilities Board in 2003 expressed concerns regard~ng costs and benefits. The proposal was subsequently tabled. Since that time, MEC has continued to Gale, Di - 22 PacifiCorp monitor potential costs and benefits of other alternatives. I will outline the current alternative that MEC is pursuing in my testimony regarding regulatory approvals for this transaction. Regulatory Experience Based on MEC's experience, what will MEHC ownership mean for PaciflCorp s regulatory relationships? As reflected in MEC's relationships , MEHC seeks positive, constructive working relationships with the regulators who monitor its utility operations. MEHC will be committed to the same kind of relationships with PacifiCorp s regulators. How is MEC's relationship with its state regulators? MEC understands the role of the public utility commission and has decades of successful experience working within the regulatory framework. MEC takes seriously the need to maintain its regulatory credibility. For example, in Iowa, the company has worked very cooperatively and successfully within the regulatory process. Through settlements in the previous five years, MEC has sited and received rate-making principles orders in advance of construction for roughly $2 billion in energy infrastructure and environmental investment. What is MEC's experience with regulatory treatmen~ of affiliates? In Iowa, MEC makes an annual filing that reflects its affiliate transactions in the prior year. This filing includes a copy of the written agreements that govern its affiliate transactions. In lllinois, MEC is required to obtain prior approval of affiliate transactions unless they fall within the "ordinary course of business" or other enumerated exemptions. For several years, MEC has had an Intercompany Gale, Di - 23 , PacifiCorp Administrative Services Agreement ("IASA") that governs the provision of routine services between MEC and its affiliates. This IASA has been reviewed and approved by Iowa and lllinois regulators. MEHC witness Specketer provides a copy of the IASA with his testimony and explains its operation. On the whole, our experience with affiliate transactions has been uncomplicated. I would note, however, that we have a pending proceeding in lllinois wherein the lllinois Commerce Commission staff examined MEHC's transfer of two. new gas turbines to MEC in 2001 for the Greater Des Moines Energy Center ("GDMEC"). MEC did not seek prior approval of the transaction because MEC believed the law and regulations exempted the transaction from the need for approval. A hearing examiner for the lllinois Commerce Commission determined the exemption was not available. In an effort to resolve the matter without further litigation, MEC has proposed to Iowa and lllinois regulators that the portion of GDMEC that would have been allocated to lllinois be allocated to Iowa. The Iowa Office of Consumer Advocate supports this approach, and this resolution is proceeding through the regulatory process. Operations in States with Retail Access PaciflCorp s service territory includes both a state that operates on a model of competitive electric supply ("retail access ) and states that operate on a model of traditional regulated electric service. Based on MEC's experience, how will the transaction affect PaciflCorp s view of this kind of mixed service area? Based on MEC's experience , the transaction should have no impact in that regard Gale, Di - 24 PacifiCorp since MEC also has experience serving in states with and without retail access. MEHC and MEC support the right of a state to determine whether or not to implement retail access. lllinois has offered electric retail choice since 1999, following enactment of a law in 1997. Thus, MEC operates in two states (Iowa and South Dakota) that do not have electric retail access and one state (lllinois) that does. This makes MEC's experience similar to PacifiCorp s in that both utilities need to be able to conduct their utility businesses in states with varying positions regarding retail choice. Has MEC been supportive of retail access for electric customers? MEC has been supportive of retail access in lllinois and participated in drafting the 1997 restructuring legislation in that state. Since the law s passage, MEC has supported several implementation measures designed to promote effective competition in lllinois. In Iowa, MEC took a leadership role in advancing retail access legislation but Iowa elected not to pursue retail access. MEC's response was to work with Iowa s Governor, lawmakers, regulators and consumers to develop an energy and environmental policy for the state, using the regulatory model Iowa prefers. Again, MEHC expects its energy business platforms to operate on either model regulated or competitive, depending on the state s preference. Gale, Di - 25 PacifiCorp Serving Communities What will MEHC's ownership of PacifiCorp mean for the communities that PacifiCorp serves? Based on MEC's experience , they can expect a continued focus on good service and good corporate citizenship. What efforts does MEC's undertake in the area of community leadership? A key effort is MEC's Community Contact Program , which relies on the volunteer efforts of some 170 MEC employees who represent MEC in approximately 225 communities in Iowa, lllinois and South Dakota. These employees advise MEC of community needs and represent MEC in the community. Each of the 170 employees has a small discretionary budget from which grants are awarded in their communities. In addition, these employees participate in community meetings (M., city council) and relay community needs that MEC may be able to satisfy ~, moving poles, digging holes, providing in- kind contributions to volunteer fire departments, sponsoring floats in community parades, sponsoring local events, etc.). These 170 employees also provide MEC support for community activities such as local environmental clean-up efforts and tree planting projects on Earth Day and Arbor Day. They also serve as channels for communicating any community complaints about MEC's quality of service. As a result, the city councils in these 225 communities know who to contact regarding concerns with MEC. MEC is also actively engaged in the annual Uni~ed Way campaigns of the twenty communities it serves that have such campaigns. MEC actively Gale, Di - 26 PacifiCorp encourages its employees to contribute to such campaigns and matches employee contributions dollar for dollar, up to a maximum value of $436 000. MEC also promotes employee involvement in local Rotary, Chamber, Kiwanis and economic development organizations. In addition to MEHC's corporate gift-matching program, MEHC shareholders fund an innovative program called Global Days of Service. This program encourages employees to volunteer time for charitable and educational organizations through a shareholder contribution to the organizations based upon employee hours volunteered. Employees simply keep track of the number of hours spent in volunteer work for charitable groups (501 (c)(3) IRS designation) and for educational institutions worldwide. Employees submit a form listing the number of hours (over eight) they have volunteered. At the end of the program year, the shareholder contribution amount is divided among qualifying organizations based upon the volunteer hours worked. Does MEC support economic development in the communities it serves? Yes. Refer to the letters in Exhibit No.7 for examples of confirmation. Delivery of Transaction Benefits Please describe how you envision the delivery of the benefits of the transaction to PacifiCorp customers. MEHC expects the benefits of the transaction to be delivered to all customers in all jurisdictions via rate case proceedings and using PacifiCorp s recently established multi-state allocation protocol when appropriate. Gale, Di - 27 PacifiCorp What impact would the transaction have on the degree of regulatory oversight this Commission has over PacifiCorp? It would have no impact. The Commission will continue to exercise the same degree of regulatory oversight over PacifiCorp as it does today. Will MEHC offeJ; rate credits, rate reductions or rate freezes as a part of the benefits of the proposed transaction? No. We believe the demonstrable benefits of the transaction discussed in the testimonies should be more than sufficient to satisfy the standards for the acquisition. Moreover, rate credits are simply a proxy for capturing the costs and benefits of a transaction between rate proceedings. In the case of PacifiCorp, such a proxy is unnecessary given the planned rate proceedings. These rate proceedings will incorporate new investment into rate base and any cost reductions in cost-of-service. Finally, PacifiCorp is currently failing to earn its allowed return. Providing rate credits, reductions or freezes under such conditions would simply worsen PacifiCorp s financial performance. This could precipitate ratings downgrades and higher financing costs. Going forward, as PacifiCorp strengthens the infrastructure, investment and rate treatment of that investment must be implemented in a manner that is fair to customers, employees and shareholders. What impact will the commitments made by MEHC and PacifiCorp have upon the rate increases projected by PacifiCorp? We do not expect that the commitments that we are offering will cause an Gale, Di - 28 PacifiCorp REVISED 8/17/05 increase in the percentage discussed in PacifiCorp witness Johansen s testimony. Please also note the commitment, Revenue Requirements hnpacts B, of Exhibit No. Review and Approval of the Transaction Please describe the various reviews and/or approvals of the transaction that MEHC anticipates. Following are the shareholder and regulatory reviews anticipated with respect to the proposed transaction: approval of the shareholders of ScottishPower; approval and/or waiver from the public utility commissions in the states of California, Idaho, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming; approval ofthe transfer of the Trojan spent fuel storage license by the U. Nuclear Regulatory Commission; approval ofthe transfer of jurisdictional facilities by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission ("FERC") under Section 203 of the Federal Power Act; approval by FERC of revisions to the open access transmission tariffs of PacifiCorp and MEC under Section 205 of the Federal Power Act; Gale, Di - 29 PacifiCorp REVISED 8/17/05 review of the proposed transaction by the U.S. Department of Justice under the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act; and approval by the Federal Communications Commission of the change of control with respect to certain communication licenses held by PacifiCorp. Market Monitor and Transmission Services Coordinator Please describe the Market Monitor Proposal that MEHC has put forward in connection with its proposed acquisition of PacifiCorp. Under the proposal, MEC and PacifiCorp would each contract with a market monitor to assure nondiscrimination in the management of each company transmission systems commencing on the day of the closing of the acquisition. market monitor is an independent organization retained to review, on an after-the- fact basis, transmission system operations necessary to ensure the transmission provider does not favor its wholesale merchant function or any energy affiliate. The market monitor would review and report to the FERC on such matters as the utility s performance of the following transmission functions: generation dispatch and potential impacts on constrained facilities actions to relieve constrained facilities derating of transmission facilities, and ratings and other data used for total transfer capability calculations. Gale, Di - 30 PacifiCorp REVISED 8/17/05 What are the expected costs to PacifiCorp of the market monitor? Bids for the market monitor services have not yet been solicited. However, we estimate that the on-going costs to PacifiCorp will be about $200 000 annually. Does the market monitor proposal impact the development of Grid West? No. The efforts are complementary. For example, it is possible that some market monitor services may be provided as an early service by Grid West. When Grid West is fully operational it should obviate the need for a market monitor for PacifiCorp, since Grid West would be providing non-discriminatory transmission services to multiple parties including PacifiCorp. Will Grid West also serve MEC? , at least'not for the foreseeable future. Subject to regulatory approval, MEC is planning to enter into a contract with an outsource provider of transmission services to be known as the transmission service coordinator ("TSC"). The TSC initially will administer or oversee only MEC's transmission assets. However MEC is working with other utilities located to its west that currently are not part of any regional transmission organization to consider having them also use the TSC. Ultimately, the TSC may provide transmission services to an area abutting that of Grid West. At such time, it may be appropriate to put into place a seams agreement between the TSC and Grid West to enhance transmission system coordination among transmission users in the states served by PacifiCorp and MEC. Gale, Di - 31 PacifiCorp REVISED 8/17/05 Proposed Schedule When does MEHC expect to complete the process of obtaining all of the foregoing approvals and reviews? We very much want to complete all of the state approvals by February 28 2006 in time to close on the transaction on or before March 31 , 2006. This is an important transaction for PacifiCorp customers, employees and communities. In order to mitigate the ill effects of uncertainty and expedite the delivery of important benefits, we respectfully request that the Commission act in a manner that will facilitate an order by February 28, 2006. Closing on that date will also facilitate the transition ofPacifiCorp financial reporting from a fiscal year ending March 31 as used by Scottish Power to a calendar fiscal year consistent with how MEHC companies report their financial statements. Such calendar year reporting is also consistent with regulatory reporting, which should enable regulators to utilize a single year audited financial statements rather than have regulatory reporting span two fiscal years. Does this conclude your testimony? Yes, it does. Gale, Di - 32 PacifiCorp (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Joint Applicant Exhibit Nos. 2 through 7 having been premarked for identification, were admitted into evidence. BY MR. VAN NOSTRAND:Mr. Gale, could you describe the events that have transpired since you filed your direct testimony and exhibits? Since we filed the direct testimony andYes. exhibi ts, we have engaged in numerous meetings with interested persons and parties in all six states that are served by PacifiCorp.As a result of those meetings, we have entered into settlement negotiations in every state with the parties. The outcome of those settlement negotiations has been that we have a contested settlement in California.That settlement is with most all parties except the Union and the Office of Ratepayer Advocate.That proceeding is awaiting an ALJ' s Decision, which we expect actually this week. We have reached a settlement as well in Utah with all maj or parties, and that settlement is awaiting a Commission Decision.We I ve had the hearing on the settlement already. Those two settlements were reflected in our Idaho negotiations. And , of course, in Idaho, we also have negotiated a settlement with all major parties, which has been filed with HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID GALE (Di) Joint Applicants83701 this Commission. Subsequent to the Idaho negotiations, we were able to enter into a settlement with all major parties in Oregon , again, except that I think the major exception there is the Union.ThatThe Union did not contest that settlement. settlement is - - was scheduled for hearing on Friday of this week.Therefore,There were no obj ections to that settlement. the hearing has been cancelled, and it will be awaiting a Commission Decision as well. We are currently negotiating in Washington and Wyomi ng .We reached settlements in principle on Friday the 13th with both Washington and Wyoming.We are in a process right now of doing some fine tuning on some language with Wyoming and Washington, and we I re - - are hopeful that we will be able to file those settlements in those two states this week.Once we file those settlements, we I 11 share those settlements with the parties to this case and hopefully be able to negotiate with the parties again to amend the Stipulation and add any additional provisions that Idaho might want from the Washington and Wyoming settlements, similar to what Staff wi tness Carlock has added with respect to the Oregon commi tments and the Oregon Stipulation. Mr. Gale , the testimony that or the Stipulation that we filed on December 16th has 50 general commitments and 26 Idaho-specific commitments.Could you give some background HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Di) Joint Applicants as to the purpose of those commitments? Yes.There are really three purposes to the commitments ~hat were filed and also negotiated in the - - the settlement. The first purpose is to assure that the customers of PacifiCorp, including specifically the customers in Idaho, are held harmless from the transaction.Generally, those hold-harmless commitments you'll find in Commitments 1 through 32, which were commitments that were continued from the Scottishpower transaction but also modified to meet the needs of the customers of PacifiCorp in the various states. gone through the negotiations, modified those somewhat, and actually strengthened them, I think, from the standpoint of providing assurance that customers won t be harmed by the transaction. Commitment 33 is simply a procedural commitment as to how the Commission could choose to enforce the commitments if it so chose. I would add that in addition to the first commitments, as noted in Staff witness Carlock's testimony, there are some additional hold-harmless provisions that are being recommended for adoption in Idaho.Those are from the Oregon Stipulation.I believe you'll find those as now Idaho-specific Commitments 1-28, 29, and 30, if my numbers are correct.Let me check. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID GALE (Di) Joint Applicants83701 Yes.Those particular hold-harmless commitments are directed toward two items, really.Those are corporate costs that previously were allocated to subsidiaries or affiliates - - or, not subsidiaries, but affiliates of PacifiCorp that will no longer be affiliates after the transaction.Those costs are not currently in rates , and it was a - - there was a desire to ensure that there was no increase in that type of cost in cost of service associated with this transaction , simply because those companies would no longer be affiliates of PacifiCorp.So, that particularly, Commitment 28 and 30. Commitment 29 is another hold harmless that has been added, and that is a hold - - holds customers harmless from an increase in insurance costs.PacifiCorp was provided insurance through a captive insurance company of Scottishpower previously.MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company has agreed to create a new captive insurance company or utilize an existing captive insurance company and freeze insurance costs for PacifiCorp through 2010 so that they would be no more than the costs that were billed by ScottishPower in 2005, so that I s another hold harmless.So, those are really the hold harmless provisions , and I say that the - - one of the purposes of the commitment. The second purpose of the commitment is to provide benefit, particularly for those states that require a HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID GALE (Di) Joint Applicants83701 showing of net benefits; however , all states will benefit by that since we I re providing those particular benefits in all six PacifiCorp jurisdictions.That I S something that we agreed to do as part of this transaction , and that is provide all of the general commitments to all of the states, as well as any of the states I specific commitments that states might want.And you'll find most of those net benefit commitments are in Commitments 34 through 53 of the general commitments. And then in particular , again, in Staff witness Carlock I S testimony where she is recommending the adoption of Commitment 08 and Commitment 012 from Oregon, those would become commitments I -- Idaho-specific commitments 1-27 and 29, I believe.Let me check a moment, please. Yes.Those commitments , as well as the others that I mention, provide net benefits to all customers, not just those in the states that have a net benefit standard. The third purpose of the commitments is to give the Commission some indication of how MidAmerican Energy Holding Company operates regulated utilities and what it looks for in terms of making investments, and in particular , I think I could point you to -- to the commitments that wel ve made with regard to investigating transmission investments that might not otherwise have been perceived by PacifiCorp, or perhaps more importantly, might not otherwise have been funded by ScottishPower.That, in particular , you would find at HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID GALE (Di) Joint Applicants83701 Commitment 34 , and in some of the new commitments to explore integrated gas combined cycle technology, or IGCC technology. You 'll find that in the Idaho-specific commitments.I don I t recall the number right off hand. Those are examples of how MidAmerican Energy Holding Company operates its regulated utilities.It looks at what investments make sense in the long term for customers, what investments have the ability to reduce cost of service in the long term.Those are the type of investments that we fund. We think in the long term our customers are better off, our customers are more satisfied, rates are more stable, perhaps even providing the opportunity in the future for some mitigation of rate increases that might otherwise be planned. So that was the third purpose of providing those commitments is to demonstrate to you how we look at investments that can be beneficial both to the Utility and its customers. Mr. Gale, have you had an opportunity to review the supplemental testimony offered by Staff witness Carlock? Yes, I have. And in that testimony, she I s proposing to include in Idaho various provisions from Oregon that were included in the commitment in Oregon and in the Stipulation in Oregon. Correct? That is correct. Do you have any concerns or comment with respect HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID GALE (Di) Joint Applicants83701 to any of those, the Oregon provisions which Ms. Carlock is proposing to apply to Idaho? I do not have any concerns about the commitments that she is proposing be adopted in Exhibit No. 102.I do have one concern about - - about her testimony, and that is the testimony at pages 7 and 8, starting on line 21 of page 7 and carrying over through line 16 of page If you'd like me to explain what that concern is , I I d be pleased to do so. Would you proceed, Mr. Gale? In that portion of her testimony, Staff witness is referring to a particular provision out of the Oregon Stipulation.That provision in the Oregon Stipulation was made necessary by the uniqueness of the Oregon Statute.The Oregon Statute has a provision that could be interpreted to require that any shareholder that owns more than five percent of an acquiring company must become an Applicant. 17 .In the case of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company, we have only four shareholders , and two of those Mr. Walter Scott , Mr. Warren Buffett -- own more than five percent of MidAmerican Energy Holding Company. The particular Oregon Statute has never been interpreted by the Courts, it I S not really been interpreted by the Commlssion either , and so there was an uncertainty as to whether those individuals needed to be Applicants. Our concern with Mr. Scott and Mr. Buffett HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Di) Joint Applicants becoming Applicants in their own right was a concern that the particular Oregon Statute , if read to require that Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott be Applicants, could also be read to require that Oregon Commission approval be obtained before the transfer of Mr. Buffett's and Mr. Scott's interest in MEHC.That was particularly problematic, because it would mean that, for example, in the event of Mr. Buffett's death, it would be necessary to get Oregon Commission approval for the distribution of his shares, and during that period , the control of Berkshire Hathaway would be up in the air.That was not an acceptable result for us and I don't think it was an acceptable result for any parties either that recognize that that was certainly not an intended consequence of the Oregon Statute. Nevertheless, we had to protect ourselves -- MEHC -- as well as Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott from a potential interpretation of that Oregon Statute. The result was the provision that Ms. Carlock refers to which is Oregon-specific Commitment 10.That commitment was that Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott would not exercise substantial control over PacifiCorp.The administration of that commitment will mean that Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott do not vote on any matters pertaining to PacifiCorp as owners of their shares.While we don I t think that's a desirable outcome, it, nonetheless, was one that we fel t was necessary to avoid the result that I talked about in HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Di) Joint Applicants Oregon. As I say, this provision is related to the Oregon To the best of my knowledge , you have no comparableStatute. statute in Idaho.And I would urge that you not adopt this particular commitment.We are hopeful that we will be able to get a change in Oregon law so that this is no longer a problem. If so, we would be -- we would prefer not to have to come back to each of the other five Commissions to eliminate this particular provision.Idaho will be the beneficiary of the Oregon commitment , as long as the Oregon commitment remains; but if you have no particular concern about Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott exercising control or some degree of control over PacifiCorp as owners of the stock of MEHC , I would ask that you not adopt this particular provision. If you do adopt this particular provision , I would ask that you do two things:First of all , there was a definition that was inadvertently omitted from the language that Ms. Carlock has proposed.As it is written , the term shareholders I' is not defined , and this could be interpreted to mean that none of the four shareholders could vote on PacifiCorp matters before the board , and since we only have four shareholders and they are the board members, that could be problematic.So I would ask that if you do adopt this, that in the first two lines, those be marked - - that those lines be modified to say:The sworn statements of Warren Buffett and HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Di) Joint Applicants Wal ter Scott, Junior , paren , together wi th - - together , comma, the quotation marks, capital S, shareholders, closed quotation mark, closed paren. Another change that I would ask you to make in your Order if you do adopt this provision is to indicate that if this is no longer a requirement in order - - in Oregon, that it no longer is a commitment in Idaho.That might be beneficial as well. Those are the only concerns that I had with regard to Staff witness Carlock I s testimony. Thank you, Mr. Gale. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:With that, Madam Chairman Mr. Gale is available for cross -examination. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Thank you. Mr. Purdy, do you have any questions? MR. PURDY:No, I do not. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Mr. Howell. Thank you.Excuse me.Thank you,MR . HOWELL: Madam Chairman. CROSS - EXAMINATION BY MR. HOWELL: Mr. Gale , good morning.Just a couple of questions.I guess let I s start at your most recent testimony HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (X) Joint Applicants where you were talking about the Staff witness Carlock I testimony on page 8 of her supplemental where the Staff recommended the adoption of the language referring to Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott.If the Commission were to recommend that that condition not be adopted, would that take care of your concern? Yes. Secondly, you were involved with the settlement conferences between the parties in this case? Yes, I was. If I could direct your attention , have you Well, let me start it this way:Have you had an opportuni ty to review Ms. Carlock's testimony? Yes, I have. And on page 3 of her supplemental testimony which was prefiled on the 13th, she talks about the adoption of Oregon general Commitment 18.And if I could specifically direct your attention to line 25 of supplemental page 3 , and then the following line , I just wanted to be clear that the capital structures that are referenced in that Oregon commitment or general Commitment 18 deal with the Company' ability to make dividends and they -- the capital structures are not related to rate-making purposes. That is correct. And , finally, if - - when you were referring to HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (X) Joint Applicants the various provisions that the Staff is recommending the Commission adopt, I believe you may have misspoke when you were talking about Oregon condition or Commitment 12 , which I think you said it was Idaho-specific 29, and, in fact, on page 7 of the Staff Exhibit, Supplemental Exhibit 102 , I think it' identified as Idaho-specific Commitment 31.I just wanted to make sure that the record is correct in that regard. Yes , that is correct. All right.No further questions.Thank you. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Thank you. Mr. Budge. MR. BUDGE:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Do we have questions from the Commission? COMMI S S lONER KJELLANDER:I don' COMMISSIONER SMITH:Commissioner Hansen. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Thank you.I have a couple of questions concerning the - - the Stipulation.Maybe you could just fast clarify a couple areas there for me. On Exhibit 101, page 11 , Item No.6, it talks there - - I guess my question is does MidAmerican Energy Holding HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants Company currently have in place a cost allocation methodology for costs shared by its subsidiaries, and if you do, when was it- adopted? Yes, we do.That is the intercompany administrative services agreement that is referred to in general Commitment 13, which is on page 2 of the commitments in this - - in this docket.That agreement was adopted by the Illinois Commerce Commission and the Iowa Utilities Board believe in 19- -- around 1998 or '99, I believe.There have been some amendments to that agreement as well.But that particular agreement covers the affiliate trans- - - the general affiliate transactions between MEHC - - more particularly, this is MidAmerican Energy Company - - and its various affiliates. And we would anticipate that that same agreement with modifications would be the agreement that we would have for PacifiCorp, and that would be filed with the Commission pursuant to commitment 13. Okay.So, would our Staff be aware of that and I guess I could ask our Staff when they I re on the stand -- of that agreement that you have? I believe that has been discussed with Staff, and I obviously can't answer for them , but I can say that we have discussed it. Okay.The other one I have , another one, is on Exhibit -- still Exhibit 101, page -- or, No. 16, and this is HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants talking about the exclusion of the acquisition transaction cost, Exhibit 4 , utility account.I think it's on page 13 of Exhibit 101.It's numbered 16 Stipulation. My numbering is a bit different.m going to ask Counsel , do you have that precise exhibit? MR. VAN NOSTRAND:(Indicating. THE WITNESS:Thank you.Okay, now I have the and that is the correct number , it is 16.m sorry, I was on a different page.Yes, I have that in front of me. BY COMMISSIONER HANSEN:Okay.With that along with what Mr. Abel talks about in his testimony, and also Terri Carlock addresses it, this issue of excluding the acquisition or transmission costs from PacifiCorp I s utilities account and not to rate recovery of these costs.Is that correct? Yes , although there is actually another commitment with regard to the acquisition premium.You III find that is Idaho-specific Commitment 1-18.But this particular commi tment covers the transaction costs. Okay.I I d like to kind of make sure I understand this.Now , if I understand it correctly, these costs would be recorded on one of your holding companies' books? The costs of the acquisition premium will be recorded at the intermediate holding company, which is PPW Holdings , LLC.Those acquisition premium costs will not be HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants recorded at the Utility. Now , the trans- - - the transaction costs that we're talking about in Commitment 16 , those may be recorded at -- some of those may be recorded at the PacifiCorp utility, but they will be recorded in below-the-line accounts. I guess the question I'd have is - - is those that are recorded or booked with a holding company, then would there be nothing to prevent the holding company from transferring these costs back to PacifiCorp I s account in the future if they so justified it? The wording of the specific commitment with regard to the acquisition premium is at I ~17 , and there we have a commitment that those costs will be recorded at - - in the accounts of the acquisition company and not the Utility.The only way that that - - those costs could be recorded at the Utility would be to get the permission of this Commission and the other five Commissions to do so.So, no , I do not believe that those costs could be recorded at the Utility without your approval. Okay.I have a question regarding Mr. Abel I s testimony on page 11 , line 18 through 21. All right. He states that it proj ected PacifiCorp I s service territories will require investment of at least one billion per year for at least the next five years to assure reliable HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants service. And then on page 14 , line 15, he identifies a Patch C upgrade of 78,000 (sic) in Southeastern Idaho to Northern Utah. And - - and so of the five billion, is that the only capital money that I s proj ected to be spent in Idaho in the next five years? That is the - - let me start over.TheNo. answer is still , "No. What Mr. Abel is identifying at that page in his testimony are - - is one of the incremental investments that MidAmerican Energy Holding Company is proposing to implement as a r~sul t of this transaction.There are other capital investments that were planned by PacifiCorp for Idaho that will continue to be made, and indeed as we have -- as we have made addi tional commitments in the various states, I think there are at least one other of the commitments that we have made that will have an impact -- a positive impact -- on Idaho as well. That includes some of the transmission investments that we are looking at.I believe the Bridger to Ben Lowman and Bridger to Miners has some positive impact on Idaho, and I think there' another one as well.This is the dollars that were referred to by Mr. Abel , or simply some incremental amounts that would be associated with Iowa - - the Idaho investment that we would make.It is not all the investment that PacifiCorp will be HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID GALE (Com) Joint Applicants83701 making in Idaho over the next five years. , have you prepared the five-year capital investment plan then that you talk about, the billion dollars a year for five years, or is that just an estimate out in the future and you really haven I t documented where that's going to be spent? The - - the $1 billion per year number was in the test - - was provided in the testimony of witness Johansen , and that reflects ScottishPower and PacifiCorp' s plans for investment over the next several years.It also -- witness Johansen also talks about their planned rate activity for the next several years. MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company has not changed that plan , but we were not part of the development of that plan either.We were provided a prior plan on which to do the analysis of the valuation of PacifiCorp.You 'll see that variously referred to as Scenario That is - - that plan was a current plan at the time that was provided to us but it is not the same as PacifiCorp I s plan today. We've analyzed that plan and we have looked at the investments in that plan, but there have been some changes to that plan by PacifiCorp.For example, their plan now does include the Path C investment we were just talking about as a result of a proposal that they made in their last IRP filing. So to directly answer your question, those HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants particular investments were prepared by Scottishpower and PacifiCorp, they were not prepared by MEHC , but we are aware of generally what those investments are. So if I understand correctly, then in the future, you 'll be updating this $5 billion plan.Is that right? We will be looking seriously at that plan and whether we think that - - that that I s an appropriate plan for PacifiCorp.We'll be asking questions of PacifiCorp, more detailed questions about that plan, perhaps making some suggestions as to other things that they might look at. Ultimately, it has to be PacifiCorp' s plan. They re going to operate as their own company, as a separate company, and they will be responsible for the results of their own operations, but we will be making suggestions. m moving along.I I 11 be through my list here pretty quick. Commitment 33, I just wanted to get your comments on this commitment and I don I t really know what went into the parties agreeing to this, but on Commitment 33 , I guess as I look at this, by approving this Stipulation , wouldn I t the Commission be agreeing to be bound by this provision what and what if the Commission may want more discretion in administering compliance with these - - these commitments?And I I m just - - this is the only one I could find that has this in it that it sounds to me like the Commission is kind of locked, HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants and I'd like to get your comments.Was that something that you people were promoting or someone else? Sure.Let me -- let me start with your first question , and that is , no , the Commission isn't bound by any of the commitments.The commitments are being made by MEHC and PacifiCorp in order to ensure that we meet the standards for approval of the transaction.As we I ve indicated , I believe both the Stipulation and I think there I s even a provision in the commitments themselves , the commitments are binding only on MidAmerican and on PacifiCorp.You would be simply approving those commitments as adequate to demonstrate that there is no harm to the public in Idaho.This particular provision is a procedural one or an administrative provision that we suggested as a way of enforcing the commitments. In our discussions with numerous interested parties, a concern frequently expressed was how do we enforce these commitments?And Commi tmentWhat mechanism do we use? 33 was a mechanism that we were suggesting.As you can tell though by the wording, it simply indicates that MEHC and PacifiCorp encourage the Commission to use this particular provision.You don I t haveIt I S purely voluntary on your part. to use it.If you have another -- if you have another mechanism either provided by Statute or by rule or by policy, that's perfectly - - perfectly acceptable.MidAmerican and PacifiCorp were simply trying to provide a process that could HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants be used to enforce the commitments, but it is not one that' binding upon you.You may use it if you so choose or not. Would you have a problem if the Commission was to delete that third sentence ending with:The Commi s s i on shoul d take no action? No.I f that's - - if that would make the Commission more comfortable , since this is a voluntary - - a vol untary process anyway, I don't think I would have a problem with that. Okay.One other area is , Mr. Gale , in your testimony, or Mr. Abel, that I have failed to recall which , but I thought it was said that the acquisition - - there would be no change in the quality of service that has been provided by ScottishPower/PacifiCorp.Is that correct? I believe that is correct. Do you have any plans in improving the service quality and reliability in Idaho? We will certainly be looking at opportunities to cost-effectively improve service in all states, and that would certainly include Idaho. Are you aware the outages that have taken place in Southeastern Idaho this last year? m not familiar with the details.am aware some of the circumstances , yes. Just take a moment.I received a letter -- a HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants couple of letters - - and I'd just like to read a couple quotes from it.This is a letter from a person that owns a business down in Southeastern Idaho, and just a couple quotes: We continue to have brownouts.Whenever thi s happens , if it is after business hours, I have to go to the store and check everything is turned back on.We had a brownout on December the 8th.Everything came back on except our cash register and gas pump.Another time in December we had a brownout after hours.I didn I t know it though because was asleep. Then in her last sentence:Yes, we are definitely still having problems with our service here. And then I received another comment for some people in the Soda Springs area that was without power for hours, and this happened just I think in the month of November. And when the power did come on , evidently there was a power surge and many of these people lost TVs , their stoves , their Different things were destroyed.They contactedovens. PacifiCorp and to see if it was covered, and they told them to fill out these forms and that they had to submit them.This was over a month ago.Some people, I I ve got here, they lost garage door openers, TVs , a stove , an oven , different things. And I guess - - I guess where I I m coming from on this is that I've had customers tell me that they think the service is actually worse and getting worse in the last couple HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants years than it had been before Scottishpower got involved.And I guess my question to you is if the customers perceive that the service quality is poor in Southeastern Idaho and yet the Company is saying that it I s outstanding service quality, how do we find out who I s really shooting it straight?Do you have any plans to verify that the customer is getting good service? maybe in your mind this is good service , I don't know. I think there are a couple things that I can say in response to that. First of all, Commitment 35 , the general Commitment 35, is one that MEHC has made with regard to some programs to improve transmission and distribution throughout the service territory.Those were not programs that were going to be funded by Scot tishPower; they are programs that are going to be funded by MidAmerican.There are a number of those programs.There I s 75 million for the asset risk program, 69 million for additional transmission and several other investments. Let me say though more generally that MEHC, through its operation of MidAmerican Energy Company, has demonstrated a focus on customer satisfaction.We know that for customers to be satisfied , you really need three things: You need reliable service at reasonable cost, number one; you need to be responsive to the customers; and you need to be honest with them. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants Now, sometimes when you're honest with them that you can It give them everything that they want, but I think the customers still appreciate that you I re honest and you' responsive.Those are three pillars, I guess, of MidAmerican' approach to customer service.Customer has to feel like they're getting a reasonable service, reliable service , at a reasonable cost, and as I said, we have to be honest and we have to be responsive.And we 11 be looking at PacifiCorp in those areas. Yes , PacifiCorp has very high customer satisfaction , but that doesn I t mean that improvements are not possible , and we know that from our operation of MidAmerican Energy Company that improvements are always possible , and we'll be looking at those areas, because having satisfied customers makes our job easier , it makes your job easier , and certainly it's beneficial for all of us if customers are satisfied with the service they receive.We'll be looking at that very carefully. COMMISSIONER HANSEN:Thank you very much. That's all the questions I have. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Commissioner Kj ellander. Do you have any redirect? MR. VAN NOSTRAND:, Madam Chair. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay.Thank you f or your help. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants THE WITNESS:Thank you very much. (The witness left the stand. COMMISSIONER SMITH:So, Mr. Purdy, I heard that your witness may need to be somewhere else at 11: 00. MR. PURDY:Yes , Madam Chair, thank you.She needs to be at a legislative function and needs to leave here by 11 ol clock.Should that be a problem, I have a couple proposals. COMMISSIONER SMITH:, Mr. Van Nostrand, should we go with your next witness? MR. VAN NOSTRAND:We have no problem accommodating Mr. Purdy and Ms. Ottens. COMMISSIONER SMITH:It's up to you. MR. PURDY:Well , to be cautious then , perhaps now would be the appropriate time to put her on the stand. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Is there any obj ection from the other parties? MR. BUDGE:No objection. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay.Thank you. MR. PURDY:Thank you. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 GALE (Com) Joint Applicants TERI OTTENS, produced as a witness at the instance of the Community Action Partnership Association of Idaho, being first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows: MR.PURDY: Idaho. DIRECT EXAMINATION Would you please state your name? Teri Ottens , O- And who are you representing today, Ms. Ottens? The Community Action Partnership Association of And what is your role with that organization? I am the policy director for CAPAI. Okay.And you have previously testified before this Commission , have you not? - Q. case? I have. And have you prefiled direct testimony in this Yes, we have. And that consists of eight pages of text? Yes. Is that correct? And you do not have any exhibits.True? HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID 83701 OTTENS (Di) CAPAI m sorry? You do not have any exhibits to your testimony. Is that right? No, I do not. All right.I f I were to ask you the same questions today as contained in your direct testimony, would your answers be the same? Yes , they would. MR. PURDY:Madam Chair , with that, I would ask that the direct testimony of Teri Ottens be spread upon the record as if read. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Without objection, it is so ordered. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Ms. Ottens is spread upon the record. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 OTTENS (Di) CAPAI I. INTRODUCTION Please state your name and business address. My name is Teri Ottens. I am the Policy Director of the Community Action Partnership Association ofIdaho headquartered at 5400 W. Franklin, Suite G, Boise, Idaho, 83705. On whose behalf are you testifying in this proceeding? The Community Action Partnership Association ofIdaho ("CAP AI") Board of Directors asked me to present the views of an expert on, and advocate for, low income customers 0 PacifiCorp on behalf of CAP AI. CAP AI's participation in this proceeding reflects our organization s view that low income people are an important part ofPacifiCorp customer base, and that these customers will be uniquely impacted by the proposed merger between PacifiCorp and MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company (MHEC). CAPAI is an association of Idaho s six Community Action Partnerships, the Idah Migrant Council and the Canyon County Organization on Aging, Weatherization and Human Services, all dedicated to promoting self-sufficiency through removing the causes and conditions of poverty in Idaho s communities. Community Action Partnerships ("CAPs ) are private, nonprofit organizations that fight poverty. Each CAP has a designated service area. Combining all CAPS, every county in Idaho is served. CAPS design their various programs to meet the unique needs of communities located within their respective service areas. Not every CAP provides all of the following services, but all work with people to promote and support increased self- sufficiency- Programs provided by CAPS include: employment preparation and dispatch education assistance child care, emergency food, senior independence and support clothing, home weatherization, energy assistance, affordable housing, health care access and much more. Have you testified before this Commission in other proceedings? ~T~~~~ ~~~T' .~, T~T ~~ ~~~T ~~~, Yes, I have testified on behalf of CAP AI in general rate cases involving Idaho Power Company, AVISTA, and United Water. CAP AI participated in the recent PacifiCorp general rate case and was a signatory to the settlement reached in that proceeding. addition, CAP AI has also submitted comments in Intermountain Gas Company s recent PGA filing. Why has CAP AI intervened in this particular proceeding? CAP AI was concerned that the acquisition ofPacifiCorp by a holding company with non- utility interests, and the utility holdings of which operate well outside our geographic reason, was of significant importance to PacifiCorp s low-income Idaho customers. Furthermore, when PacifiCorp and Scottish Power applied to this Commission for approval of their merger in the late 1990s, the applicants made certain concessions to ensure that ratepayers would not be harmed as a result of the merger. CAP AI's intent was to see that similar assurances were made in support of the merger proposed in this case. According to the Department of Commerce in the State of Idaho, 12% of the State s population, when using the 2000 Census, falls within federal poverty guidelines and 21 % fall within the state guidelines set at 150% of poverty levels. The 2000 Idaho Census reveals that those living in poverty are categorized as 8.3% elderly, 13. children, 8.3% all other families, 35.3% single mothers and 34% all others. In Idaho 104 537 households representing 227 000 citizens were eligible in Idaho for energy assistance and weatherization but only 31903 households statewide received LIHEAP assistance in the 2004 heating season and only 1 395 homes received weatherization services (356 in the Idaho PacifiCorp service area). According to the Department of Energy, the "affordability burden" for total home energy is set nationwide at 6% of gross household income and the burden for home ~T~~~~ ~""~T' ,~'nT""'~ ~~~T ""'~~'T""':I Q18 Q25 heating is set at 2% of gross household income. Idaho ranks # 4 in the nation with the highest energy burdens. There is a gap of$50 470 559 between what Idahoans can afford to pay (based on federal standards) for energy in 2004 and what they actually paid. Currently the LIHEAP program sends $11 million (for energy assistance, Weatherization and administration) to Idaho. What types of programs does PacifiCorp currently have in place that directly address the needs of its low-income customers? PacifiCorp operates project "Lend a Hand" which is similar to Idaho Power s "Project Share." In addition, PacifiCorp operates a low-income weatherization program as do Idaho Power and AVISTA. Does CAP AI believe that there are improvements that can and should be made to these programs? Definitely. Regarding Lend a Hand, CAP AI believes that the current level of funding, approximately $10 000-$15 000 is hardly enough to make a dent in the needs ofthe PacifiCorp Idaho customer base. Regarding the company s low-income weatherization, CAP AI has been strongly encouraging certain program design changes for some time now. This is the result oftwo particular problems with the current program. What problems are you referring to? First, PacifiCorp will only fund 50% of any given low-income weatherization project. The other funding must come nom other sources such as federal Department of Energy and Low Income Home Energy Assistance programs. Second, even when federal funds are fully exhausted for any given year, which they often are, PacifiCorp will only fund 50% of project costs. Finally, CAPAI believes that the total amount of annual funding should be increased nom the current level of $150 000. Please explain your specific concerns regarding the aforementioned issues. ~T~~~~ ~....~, r~'n7 ~~ ~~~T ~~~'T"" Idaho Power only asks that an average of 15% in federal weatherization funds be spent on each project their funds are involved in. Avista makes no requirements at all. Both recognize the value ofthe program and the need to spread the utility and private dollars as far as they will go.The customer value of the program was recognized by the utilities and they saw that more customers could be served if there was not a high match requirement. There is a limited amount of federal funds available (which looks to be cut even further this year). In the eastern part ofIdaho, the waiting list for weatherization is over 2 years long, and for less critical cases as long as six years. Because PacifiCorp territory is interspersed with municipal and cooperative electrical companies, as well as Idaho Power territory, it is often difficult to fmd enough houses in one year that are Pacificorp customers when we can only spend 50% of their money on the home. This means that PacifiCorp money could be left on the table by this restriction while other homes in need of critical weatherization may miss out because federal money had to be used to provide the 50% match. Finally, PacifiCorp is the only utility that has not completely adopted all of the DOE measures - meaning that we have to use federal money to pay for certain weatherization aspects (such as hot water heater replacement). Again this forces federal money to be spent when PacifiCorp money could have been applied, reducing our flexibility in reaching other homes. Q19 Did CAP AI participate in the settlement discussion that took place in this case? A20 Yes, and we participated and ultimately signed the settlement stipulation. Q21 Does that mean that all of CAP AI's concerns outlined above have been resolved? No. We believe that much remains to be accomplished. The applicants in this case expressed their opinion that CAPAI's concerns should be resolved through the general rate case that PacifiCorp intends to file in the Spring of2006. Does CAP AI agree with the applicants' contention in this regard? ~T~~~~ ~~~T' '~'nT ~~ ~~T ~~~'T~ , but the fact that PacifiCorp will file a general rate case in the near future, combined with certain commitments agreed to by applicants, however, convinced CAP AI that settlement at this juncture was reasonable. What "commitments" are you referring to? Concerning CAP AI's specific interests, the applicants agreed to several things. First, the applicants agreed that for any low-income eligible project, for which federal matching funds are exhausted or otherwise unavailable, PacifiCorp will fund 100% of weatherization costs for that project (Idaho-specific commitment # 13 (a)). This reflects a policy change on the part ofthe company. Are there additional commitments? Yes. PacifiCorp agreed (in Idaho-specific commitment # 13(b)) that it will analyze and directly address CAPAl's contention that the company should be willing to fimd 100% 0 low-income weatherization costs for any given project, regardless of whether there exist federal monies available. CAP AI raised this issue in PacifiCorp s last general rate case (Case No. PAC-05-1), but the applicants refused to agree to eliminate the 50% matching requirement and failed to address it in this proceeding. Thus, CAP AI believes that the settlement agreement in this case will, at the least, put the issue squarely before the Commission in the relatively near future. What about your contention that annual low-income weatherization funding levels should be increased? CAPAl's primary objective is to fITst remove the 50% limitation. So long as this limitation remains in place, we believe that PacifiCorp money will be left on the table because there are insufficient federal funds to match it against. This anomaly can and likely will occur even ifPacfiCorp agrees to fund projects at 100% once federal funds are exhausted. The reason for this is because these limitations decrease flexibility in the ~T~~~~ ~~~T' ,~'n. ~~ ~~T ~~~'T~ manner in which these funds can be best spent to benefit all customers in the PacifiCorp service area. Regardless, CAP AI believes that the total annual funding level should be increased and will make this recommendation in PacfiCorp s next general rate case. Are there any other commitments that convinced CAP AI to agree to the settlement? Yes. The applicants agreed that shareholder funding of project Lend a Hand would be increased :&om its current level to $20,000 (Idaho-specific commitment # 14). While CAP AI believes this level of funding is inadequate, this increase is acceptable until the next rate case. The applicants further agree to work with low-income advocates to evaluate additional matching contributions" in the future. CAP AI encourages PacifiCorp to do so in the upcoming general rate case. Finally, the applicants have agreed to fund and hire a consultant to study and design for possible implementation an arrearage management project for low-income customers." The stated purpose of the project is to fmd means to reduce the numerous system-wide costs attributable to customers who become delinquent on their bills. The applicants commit to forming a working group of regulatory agencies and low-income advocates to oversee this project and, during settlement discussions, indicated that CAP AI would be welcome to be a part of that working group. , in summary, do you support the settlement stipulation, with the attached conditions for approval by this Commission? Yes. Though there are several important issues yet to be resolved, CAP AI believes that for purposes ofthis case, the settlement is of benefit to low-income customers. The applicants did not specifically propose any of the low-income commitments in its direct ftling. The negotiated settlement constitutes a reasonable settlement for the interim pending the company s next general rate case. Does that conclude your testimony? ~T~~""~ ~~~~ ,~,.....? ~~ ~~~T ~~'T~ Yes it does. ~T~~~~ ~~~, ,~'nT ~~ ~~~T ~~'T~ (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. MR. PURDY:And she s available for cross, should there be any. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay.Mr. Budge. MR. BUDGE:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Mr. Howell. MR. HOWELL:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Mr. Van Nostrand. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Enj oy the Legislature. THE WITNESS:Thank you. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Do we have questions from the Commissioners?No.Thank you. THE WITNESS:Thank you very much. (The witness left the stand. Thank you.MR. PURDY:That concludes our case. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay.Do you want a break? All right , let's go. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:Joint Applicants call Mark C. Moench. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 OTTENS (Di) CAPAI MARK C. MOENCH, produced as a witness at the instance of the Joint Applicants, being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. VAN NOSTRAND: Could you state your name for the record, please? Yes.Mark C. Moench , M- And who are you employed by, Mr. Moench? MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company. And what is your position there? Senior vice president, law. What are your responsibilities as senior vice president of law? m responsible for overseeing the acquisition approvals required in each of the states, as well as the Federal approvals required. Did you have occasion to file testimony in support of Stipulation in this proceeding marked as Exhibit No. 14? Yes. Do you have any additions or corrections to make to that testimony? No. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 MOENCH (Di) Joint Applicants If I asked you the questions set forth, would your answers today be the same as referenced upon? Yes. And did you also have occasion to file Exhibit No. 15 to accompany that testimony? Yes. Any additions or corrections to make to that exhibi t? No. Is that exhibit true and correct, to the best of your knowledge? Yes. Thank you, Mr. Moench. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:wi th that, Madam Chair , I'd move to have Mr. Moench's Exhibit 14 , testimony in support of Stipulation , spread on the record as if read today, and Exhibit 15 marked. COMMISSIONER SMITH:If there's no objection , we will spread the testimony upon the record as if read , and mark Exhibit 15. (The following prefiled direct testimony of Mr. Moench is spread upon the record. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578 , BOISE , ID 83701 MOENCH (Di) Joint Applicants Please state your name and business address. My name is Mark C. Moench and my business address is 201 South Main Street Suite 2300, Salt Lake City, Utah. By whom are you employed and in what position? I am the Senior Vice President, Law, for MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company (MEHC). Please summarize your education and business experience. I received a B.S. degree from the University of Utah in 1978 and a J.D. degree from the California Western School of Law in 1981. My experience in the energy industry covers a twenty-two (22) year time span. I served as an Assistant Attorney General for the State of Utah from 1981 to 1987, representing among other state agencies, the Division of Public Utilities and the Board of Oil, Gas and Mining. Thereafter I joined the Williams Companies, Inc. in 1987, where I held positions as senior attorney for Northwest Pipeline Corporation, general counsel for Kern River Gas Transmission Company (Kern River) and finally senior counsel for the pipeline holding company, Williams Gas Pipeline Company. Upon the acquisition of Kern River by MEHC in 2002, I served as Vice President and General Counsel at Kern River until named to my present position this year. Purpose and Summary of Testimony What is the purpose of your testimony? The purpose of my testimony is to describe the Stipulation in this proceeding, which was filed with the Idaho Public Utilities Commission (Commission) on December 16. My testimony explains why the terms of the Stipulation are in the Moench, Di - Joint Applicants public interest and provide a basis for the Commission to find that the proposed transaction satisfies the standard under Idaho Code ~ 61-328 for approval of the transaction. A copy of the Stipulation is attached to my testimony as Exhibit No. 15. Please describe the process that led to the Stipulation. On July 15 , 2005 , MEHC and PacifiCorp Gointly referred to as the "Applicants filed an Application and supporting testimony with the Commission for authorization of a transaction whereby MEHC would acquire all of the outstanding common stock ofPacifiCorp (Transaction), and PacifiCorp would thereafter become an indirect, wholly owned subsidiary ofMEHC. August 17, 2005 , Applicants submitted a revised Application reflecting the impact of the enactment ofthe Energy Policy Act of2005, including the repeal of the Public Utility Holding Company Act of 1935. Thereafter, Applicants and the parties to the case participated in a technical conference on October 4, followed by settlement conferences on November 2 and December 8, in an attempt to understand and reach agreement on the issues in this proceeding. As a result of that process, the parties to this proceeding reached agreement on the resolution ofthe issues in this proceeding, as set forth in the Stipulation. All ofthe parties to the proceeding have either joined the Stipulation, or have indicated that they do not oppose it. Please identify the parties to the Stipulation. The parties to the Stipulation are the Applicants, Idaho Public Utilities Commission Staff, Monsanto Company, Idaho Irrigation Pumpers Association Moench, Di - Joint Applicants R. Simp lot Company, and Community Action Partnership Association of Idaho. Two other intervenors in the proceeding, Idaho Power Company and International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 57, did not join in the Stipulation, but indicated that they will not oppose it. General Description of Stipulation and Commitments Please generally describe the Stipulatioq. In their direct testimony, the Applicants provided evidence that the Transaction is in the public interest, including an offer to adopt a set of commitments based upon the commitments adopted in this and other jurisdictions from the prior transaction (i.ScottishPower s acquisition ofPacifiCorp). In addition, the Applicants offered numerous new commitments involving generation options, transmission investment, clean air investment, energy efficiency, and customer service, among other subjects. While the parties that participated in the technical conference and settlement discussions recognized the benefits of those commitments, they raised some additional issues they thought should be addressed by the Applicants. The Stipulation addresses and resolves those issues in a way which, the parties to the Stipulation agree, satisfies the standard in Idaho for approval ofthe Transaction under Idaho Code ~ 61-328. Please generally describe the commitments included in the Stipulation. The commitments included in Appendix A to the Stipulation consist of the commitments offered in the Applicants' direct testimony with , in some cases modifications to address issues raised by the parties; new commitments entered into by the Applicants that apply to all PacifiCorp s jurisdictions; and new Idaho- Moench, Di- Joint Applicants specific commitments that either apply only to the Applicants' activities and operations in Idaho or could be extended to other states at their option. The parties were able to build upon the agreements that had been reached in Utah. Prior to the second settlement conference in Idaho, PacifiCorp and MEHC had reached agreement with the Utah parties, and filed a stipulation in Utah PSC Docket No. 05-035-54 (Utah Stipulation) on November 18. The Utah Stipulation included a number of modifications to the original commitments in response to issues raised in the Utah discussions; as well as new commitments agreed upon by the Applicants that were applicable to all of PacifiCorp' s jurisdictions. By using the Utah Stipulation as the starting point, the parties in Idaho were able to focus more of their attention on the issues specific to Idaho. This process resulted in 26 Idaho-specific commitments, which are included in Appendix A. Under the terms of the Stipulation, the Applicants agree to perform all of the commitments set forth in Appendix A according to the provisions of each commitment. The commitments set forth in Appendix A are intended to supersede the commitments from the prior transaction and the commitments offered in the Applicants' direct testimony. The commitments are binding only upon MEHC, PacifiCorp and, where noted, their affiliates. The commitments have been offered by MEHC and PacifiCorp to ensure that the Transaction provides benefits to customers addresses identified concerns and risks, creates no harm to the public interest, and otherwise satisfies the regulatory requirements for approval of the Transaction. MEHC and PacifiCorp will not allege in any future proceeding before the Moench, Di - Joint Applicants Commission or the courts that by approving or agreeing to the Stipulation and the Transaction the Commission or the signatories agreed to waive any right to assert or adopt such positions regarding the prudence, just and reasonable character, rate or ratemaking impact or treatment, or public interest as they deem appropriate pertaining to the commitments. In the event MERC and PacifiCorp determine that a commitment ceases to be in the public interest or otherwise should be eliminated or modified, MERC and PacifiCorp will file with the Commission for approval of the elimination or modification, serving copies of the filing upon all parties to this proceeding. Does the Stipulation include provisions to address the expansion or modification of commitments in other jurisdictions? Yes. We anticipated the Idaho parties ' concerns regarding the potential uncertainty associated with entering into a stipulation while negotiations were still underway in other PacifiCorp jurisdictions. In order to address those concerns the Stipulation provides the Commission with the opportunity and authority to consider and adopt commitments or conditions accepted by the Applicants or ordered in another state jurisdiction. Paragraph 7 of the Stipulation provides a proposed "most favored states" process to facilitate the Commission s and the parties' prompt consideration and adoption of out-of-state commitments. This process is based on the recognition that the Transaction cannot close until final state orders have been issued. Moench, Di - Joint Applicants Idaho-Specific Commitments Please discuss some of the Idaho-specific commitments included in the Stipulation. An issue of particular concern in Idaho is the continued availability of a dedicated Irrigation Specialist in the Company s Idaho service territory, which is addressed in Commitment I 1. The Applicants are committing to continue to make available a dedicated Irrigation Specialist in Rexburg and Shelley, and to continue to provide an Irrigation Hotline. Another issue important to some parties is the evaluation of market potential associated with the expansion of load curtailment programs in Idaho. Commitment I 8 provides that this issue will be considered as part of the DSM study required under Commitment 44. Commitment I 10 concerns the implementation of a plan for measuring network performance in Idaho as an alternative to Momentary Average Interruption Frequency Index (MAIFI). Commitment I 10 provides that MEHC and PacifiCorp will promptly implement the proposed measurement plan and provide the results produced by that plan to Commission Staff and other interested parties in reliability review meetings. Please discuss the Idaho-specific commitments regarding resource acquisition issues. Idaho-specific Commitment I 22, which is found on pages 13 and 14 of Appendix A to the Stipulation, sets up a process to address various policy, technical, economic and planning issues associated with Integrated Gasification Combined Cycle (IGCC) technology. This Commitment provides for the Moench, Di - J oint Applicants formation of an IGCC Working Group to discuss, consider, share information regarding and develop a common understanding of issues associated with IGCC technology, including the benefits, costs and risks of that technology. Under Commitment I 23 , PacifiCorp will include within its 2006 IRP a wind penetration study to reappraise wind integration costs and cost-effective renewable energy levels, and an assessment of transmission options for PacifiCorp s system identified in the Rocky Mountain Area Transmissions Study (RMATS) scenario 1 related to facilitating additional generation at Jim Bridger and, on equal footing, new cost-effective wind resources. Please discuss the Idaho-specific commitments related to low-income issues. Three separate Idaho-specific commitments address low-income issues. Commitment 113 addresses an identified concern relating to the PacifiCorp current policy of funding 50% of measure cost when federal matching funds are available. Under this commitment, PacifiCorp will file tariff revisions to effect a change to 100% funding of conservation measures when federal matching funds are no longer available, and will also consider in its next general rate case the possibility of changing its current 50% funding level to it higher percentage amount. Under Idaho-specific Commitment 114, MEHC and PacifiCorp commit to provide up to $20 000 annually for five years to match Idaho customers and employee contributions to Lend-a-Hand. This contribution will be recorded in non-utility accounts. Moench, Di - Joint Applicants Idaho-specific Commitment I 15 provides for use of shareholder funds to hire a consultant to study and design for possible implementation an arrearage management project for low-income customers. The goals ofthe project will include reducing service terminations, reducing referral of delinquent customers to third party collection agencies, reducing arrearages and collection litigation and increasing voluntary customer payment of arrearages. Please explain the Idaho-specific acquisition premium commitment. Idaho-specific Commitment I 18, which is found on page 13 of Appendix A to the Stipulation, addresses the acquisition premium issue. The commitment, which is a modified version of the general commitment offered in direct testimony, requires the premium be recorded in the accounts of the acquisition company and not in PacifiCorp s accounts. What exactly does the commitment language allow PacifiCorplMEHC to do? The commitment language clarifies that PacifiCorp and MEHC are precluded from deciding unilaterally at some future point to include the acquisition premium in the retail rates ofPacifiCorp customers. Because the premium will be recorded at the holding company level, the only way that the acquisition premium could ever be included in PacifiCorp s rates would be ifPacifiCorp affirmatively proposed to include the premium in retail rates and the Commission agreed. The intent of the commitment language is merely to preserve the right to make an argument to the Commission that the acquisition premium should be included in retail rates under one limited condition. MEHC is concerned that if it agrees to a commitment not to include the acquisition premium in rates and if it Moench, Di - Joint Applicants does so without a clear reservation of its rights, it would be denied the opportunity in a future rate case to even point out a potential violation of the matching principle, as discussed hereafter. The commitment leaves the determination of whether the inclusion of a premium should be allowed in the hands ofthe Commission, not PacifiCorp or MEHC. MEHC is seeking only to retain the right to make a future argument if necessary, nothing more. Under what limited condition would MEllC expect this right to be exercised? In order for MEHC and PacifiCorp to exercise their right to present its argument to the Commission regarding inclusion in rates of the acquisition premium PacifiCorp must be confronted with a potential violation of the matching principle of original cost ratemaking that (1) imputes to PacifiCorp customers (i.reduces the regulated revenue requirement on the basis of) a benefit associated with the premium accruing from a company above PacifiCorp in the holding company system while (2) failing to recognize in rates the cost associated with achieving that benefit. Such a situation would occur, for example, if the Commission were to attribute a lower cost of capital to PacifiCorp s regulated operations based upon substitution of debt costs from the holding company for the cost of utility equity, without recognizing the additional risk (higher cost of equity) to the holding company of its higher leverage. In this instance, PacifiCorp s regulated customers would benefit from a lower cost of capital that assumes a greater percentage of debt, which is typically lower cost than equity, without recognizing Moench, Di - Joint Applicants the increase in the cost of common equity (due to increased risk) that occurs as a result of that more leveraged financial structure. No request for inclusion of the acquisition premium in rates would be triggered, however, in situations where benefits obtained at the holding company level are appropriately allocated to PacifiCorp, along with the costs of achieving those benefits. For example, ifMEHC were able to achieve lower insurance costs post acquisition as a result of combining the insurance needs of itself and PacifiCorp, a portion of such savings (along with the costs related to achieving them) would be properly allocated to PacifiCorp. MEHC expects the lower net costs would be included in retail rates (reducing the regulated revenue requirement). MEHC would not consider this a situation that would allow PacifiCorp to argue for inclusion of the acquisition premium in retail rates. The commitment also makes clear that neither the Commission nor any party is being asked to accept or agree with any such arguments, or to waive any of its rights to object to such a request for relief. Conclusion Why do you believe the Stipulation is just, reasonable and in the public interest? Appendix A to the Stipulation includes 50 general and 26 Idaho-specific commitments which address issues of importance to PacifiCorp s Idaho customers. Among those commitments are new commitments related to reducing costs for PacifiCorp and to address the Idaho-specific issues identified by Commission Staff and intervenors in our technical conference and settlement Moench, Di - Joint Applicants discussions. The Stipulation also includes commitments which reflect MEHC's willingness and ability to deploy capital to meet PacifiCorp s significant infrastructure needs, including increased investment in transmission, renewable energy and energy efficiency. The Applicants have also agreed, as I discussed above, that the Commission shall have the opportunity and authority to consider and adopt conditions and commitments agreed to or adopted in other jurisdictions. The Applicants submit that this Stipulation, including the commitment to a most favored states" process, strengthens many ofthe existing commitments addresses the issues and concerns raised by the parties, and provides real and significant benefits to PacifiCorp s Idaho customers. For all of these reasons, I conclude that the Stipulation is in the public interest and should be approved by the Commission. Does this conclude your testimony? Yes. Moench, Di - Joint Applicants (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Joint Applicant Exhibit No. 14 , having been premarked for identification , was admitted into evidence. MR. VAN NOSTRAND: cross-examination. COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Budge? MR. BUDGE:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH: MR. PURDY:None. COMMISSIONER SMITH: MR . HOWELL:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Moench is available for Do you have questions, Mr. Purdy. Mr. Howell. Commissioners. I guess there can be no redirect. MR. VAN NOSTRAND: Chair. COMMISSIONER SMITH: I have no redirect , Madam Thank you. THE WITNESS:Thank you. (The witness was excused. COMMISSIONER SMITH: case? MR. VAN NOSTRAND: COMMISSIONER SMITH: I move to Mr. Howell. Does that conclude your It does, Madam Chair. Thank you. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 MOENCH (Di) Joint Applicants MR. HOWELL:Thank you , Madam Chairman.The Staff would call Terri Carlock to the stand. TERRI CARLOCK, produced as a witness at the instance of the Staff , being first duly sworn , was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. HOWELL: Would you please state your full name and spell your last for the record? Terri Carlock , C- Whom are you employed by and in what capacity? The Idaho Public Utilities Commission as the accounting audit supervisor. Are you the same Terri Carlock that has prepared initial prefiled testimony and filed on December 6, 2005? On December 20th. 20th? Yes,am. And did you also have cause to be prepared Staff Exhibit 101? That's correct. And are you the same Terri Carlock that filed HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 CARLOCK (Di)Staff supplemental testimony filed on January the 13th? I am. And did you have reason to prepare Staff supplemental Exhibit 102? Yes, I did. Do you have any changes to your initial testimony or Exhibit 101? , I do not. Do you have any changes to your supplemental testimony or supplemental Exhibit 102? On supplemental testimony, page 8 , Mr. Gale is correct that I had left out one definition , so on page - - or ine 5, I would insert the words together the shareholders" to clarify that Mr. Buffett and Mr. Scott are the shareholders that are being spoken about in this paragraph. And that insertion would occur after - - on the second 1 ine of the indent:Wal ter Scott , comma, Junior, together the shareholders will provide? Tha ti s correct. Do you have any other corrections to your prefiled? , I do not. If I were to ask you the questions laid out in your initial and supplemental testimony, would your answers be the same? HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 CARLOCK (Di) Staff Yes , they would. MR . HOWELL:And with that , Madam Chairman, would move to spread Ms. Carlock's initial and supplemental testimonies, and mark for identification her Exhibits 101 and 102. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Without objection , it is so ordered. (The following prefiled direct and supplemental testimony of Ms. Carlock is spread upon the record. HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 CARLOCK (Di) Staff Please state your name and address for the record. My name is Terri Carlock.My business address is 472 West Washington Street, Boise, Idaho. By whom are you employed and in what capacity? I am employed by the Idaho Public Utilities Commission as the Accounting/Audit Section Supervisor. Please outline your educational background and experience. I graduated from Boise State Uni versi ty in 1980, with B.A. Degrees in Accounting and Finance. I have attended various regulatory, accounting, rate of return, economics, finance and ratings programs. chaired the National Association of Regulatory Utilities Commissioners (NARUC) Staff Subcommittee on Economics and Finance for more than 3 years.Under this subcommittee, I also chaired the Ad Hoc Committee on Diversification. I am currently the Secretary of the NARUC Staff Subcommittee on Accounting and Finance.I have been a presenter for the Institute of Public Utilities at Michigan State Uni versi ty and for many other conferences. Since joining the Commission Staff in May 1980, I have participated in audits, performed financial analysis on various companies, and have presented testimony before this Commission on numerous occasions. CASE NO. PAC-05- 12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 1 STAFF What is the purpose of your testimony in this proceeding? The purpose of my testimony is to present the Staff I S recommendations related to the proposed acquisition of PacifiCorp by MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company (MEHC).I will discuss issues related to the acquisition and the examination I conducted.I ssues not directly related to the acquisition will be addressed in separate proceedings or regulatory reviews. Please summarize the overall Staff recommendations. The Staff recommends approval of the acquisition transaction of PacifiCorp by MEHC with specific commitments, conditions and reporting mechanisms to be implemented. Are you sponsoring any exhibits to accompany your testimony? Yes, I am sponsoring Exhibit No. 101 consisting of the parties ' Settlement Stipulation supporting the acquisition and more importantly the 76 Commitments. Please explain the overall approach Staff has taken to arrive at its acquisition recommendations? Staff reviewed the requirements necessary for the Commission to approve the acquisition.As Staff discovered potential issues, it was determined if the CASE NO. PAC-05-12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 2 STAFF issue was created by the acquisition or an issue to be addressed regardless of company ownership.Issues resulting from the acquisition were evaluated to determine if the acquisition should be approved.To the extent other issues may be identified, they will be addressed in the upcoming rate review or in other future proceedings. What standards did you apply to review this proposed acquisition? The applicable standards of review are set forth in Idaho Code ~ 61-328 and Idaho Code, Title 61, Chapter 9, Issuance of Securities by Public Utilities. Idaho Code ~ 61-328 provides that "No electric public utili ty ... shall merge, sell , lease, assign or transfer, directly or indirectly, in any manner whatsoever, any such property or interest therein, ... except when authorized to do so by order of the public utilities commission. More specifically, this statute requires that the Commission make three specific findings: (a) That the transaction is consistent with the publ ic interest;(b) That the cost of and rates for supplying service will not be increased by reason of such transaction; and(c) That the applicant for such acquisition or transfer has the bona fide intent and financial ability to operate and maintain said property in the public service. CASE NO. PAC-05- 12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 3 STAFF Idaho Code, Title 61, Chapter 9, Issuance of Securities by Public Utilities specifies the requirements PacifiCorp and MEHC, if the acquisition is approved, must follow to obtain authority to issue securities. Review of all security applications with the required financial statements and subsequent reports provides an important opportunity for the Staff to monitor the stated financial objectives of the acquisition. Have you considered these standards in making your recommendation? These standards have been seriouslyYes. considered and are the basis for the analysis upon which my recommendations are based.I will discuss each standard separately. Does Staff believe the transaction is consistent with the public interest? Yes, in fact Staff bel ieves the publ ic interest of Idaho customers will be enhanced by the capital commi tments, ongoing customer guarantees, access to books and records, ring-fencing provisions, and guaranteed reduced cost of debt.These and various other commitments, totaling 76, are listed in Exhibit No. 101 (Settlement Stipulation). will the cost of and rates for supplying CASE NO. PAC-E- 05- 8 12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 4 STAFF service be increased by reason of the acquisition? No.The cost of and rates for service will not increase due to the acquisition itself.The acquisition costs incurred to transact the acquisition through closing will be excluded from PacifiCorp s utility accounts pursuant to General Commitment No.1 7 and Idaho- Specific Commitment No. 18 of Exhibit No. 101. Consequently, Idaho customers will not pay these acquisition costs.General Commitment No.3 7 guarantees a reduced cost of debt of at least ten (10) basis points over the next five years.The proj ected system benefit over the post-acquisition five-year period is approximately $6.3 million.Staff will verify the cost of debt reduction in all security issuance approvals, audi ts and rate proceedings.The "all-in-costH will be evaluated (Idaho Commitment No. 11) when reflecting the lower debt cost in rates.If the lower costs are not achieved , the actual adjusting entries will be determined in future rate proceedings.This commitment guarantee and review will be used to assure the Commission and customers that rates will not increase by reason of the acquisition. Does this mean that rates will never increase? Rates will not increase as a result of the acquisition but that doesn ' t necessarily mean that rates CASE NO. PAC-05-12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 5 STAFF will never increase.Any requested increases will be thoroughly reviewed to assure that cost increases are not a result of the acquisition.Staff and the other parties anticipate that PacifiCorp will file a general rate case on or about April 2006. Are you proposing that rates be reduced as a condition of the acquisition? I am not proposing rate reductions at this time.PacifiCorp rates will be reviewed in its 2006 rate case.The resulting rates from that case should assure parties and customers that rates are set at a fair and reasonable level. Do the Applicants have the bona fide intent and financial ability to operate and maintain said electrical property in the public service? Yes, I believe they do based on my review of annual financial statements and reports, statements of regulatory accounts, due diligence reports, disclosure let ters, board meeting minutes, and the production request responses in this case and meetings with Company representatives.The Applicants have committed to make investments in both transmission and distribution networks in General Commitment Nos. 34 and 35. MEHC witnesses ' prefiled direct testimony and exhibits propose conditions to facilitate the CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 8 12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 6 STAFF acquisition.Do you recommend approval of these condi tions? Yes, I recommend approval of these conditions as they have been modified and supplemented in Exhibit No.1 01.Exhibit No. 101 reflects the final Stipulation and Commitments agreed to by most parties in Idaho that addresses the individual and collective concerns of parties. As part of the review and settlement discussions, please outline some of the concerns that were addressed by the parties and ultimately included in the Commitments applicable to all states and the Idaho- Specific Commitments. Many of the concerns and commitments are self- explanatory and included as part of the Stipulation and attached Commitments.A "most favored nation " clause is also included in Section III of the Stipulation with a proposed process to implement this clause.Staff accepts the proposed process to implement any additional commitments desired under the "most favored nation clause.Therefore, any assurances, conditions or benefits agreed to by MEHC or PacifiCorp in the other five state jurisdictions that would create a benefit to Idaho customers could be subsequently adopted in Idaho under the terms of the Stipulation. CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 812/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 7 STAFF Other Staff concerns discussed during the review and settlement discussions include: customer guarantees and performance standards; access to books and records of MEHC, PacifiCorp and affiliates; capital commitments; resource acquisition under a level playing field; low income customer programs and supplemental programs for all customers; and most importantly ring- fencing measures. Please explain ring-fencing. Ring- fencing provisions are techniques, when used together, that will essentially isolate the credit risks of PacifiCorp from the credit risks of the parent company or other affiliates.Ring-fencing provisions are clearly identified in the PPW Holdings LLC agreement in addition to the commitments focusing on separate legal corporate structures, separate books and records, preventing cross-subsidization , specific board requirements and independence measures, separate debt and preferred stock with separate ratings for each, required issuance approvals , common equity percentage requirements, and dividend payment restrictions. Do you have concerns related to refinancing costs, dividend payments, capital structure, and cost of new financings to implement the acquisition or following the acquisition? CASE NO. PAC-05-12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 8 STAFF Costs directly related to the acquisitionYes. transaction should be recorded below the line and not included in future calculations to determine embedded costs of capital or rates. How will the acquisition be treated for ratemaking purposes? The acquisition will be booked on the books of the acquisition company.Any acquisition adjustments or goodwill will not be recovered through rates as reflected in Idaho Commitment No. 18. Please discuss further the reporting that should be required if this acquisition is approved. The required reports by MEHC and PacifiCorp are listed in the agreed commitments related to final transaction details, customer service, movements beyond target levels set out in the commitments, expansion of programs, audits and debt costs.Addi tional documentation will be filed to show the detail behind all debt savings achieved and detail reflecting all measurements to determine if the guarantees are met. What is Staff's recommendation? Staff recommends that the Commission approve the Stipulation and adopt the Commitments in Exhibit No. 101.The Commitments and the "most favored nation clause adequately protect Idaho ratepayers and serve the CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 8 12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 9 STAFF public interest. Does this conclude your direct testimony in this proceeding? Yes, it does. CASE NO. PAC-05-12/20/05 CARLOCK, T (Di) 10 STAFF Please state your name and address for the record. My name is Terri Carlock.My business address lS 472 West Washington Street , Boise, Idaho. By whom are you employed and in what capacity? I am employed by the Idaho Public utilities Commission as the Accounting/Audit Section Supervisor. Are you the same Terri Carlock that submitted direct testimony in this case on December 20 , 2005? Yes , I am. What is the purpose of your supplemental test imony? I am providing updated information to the Commission and parties to this case related to the additional Commitments by PacifiCorp and MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company (MEHC)in the Oregon Stipulation that Staff recommends be adopted as Idaho-Specific Commi tments in this case.At the time the Idaho Stipulation (Exhibit No. 101) and direct testimony in this case were filed, Staff had the opportunity to review the Stipulations and Commitments in California and Utah. The Oregon Stipulation with additional Commitments was filed after the Idaho Settlement Stipulation.My supplemental testimony and Staff Exhibit No. 102 focuses on the Oregon Commi tments and recommendations for adoption and inclusion CASE NO. PAC-05- 1/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) 1 STAFF 100 in Idaho. Why review the Oregon Commitments now? The "most favored nation" clause set forth in the Idaho Stipulation Section III and Idaho Commitment 25 allows this Commission to review and adopt Commitments from the other five states.Reviewing the Oregon Commitments now will simplify adoption and shorten the required review after the final Orders in the various states are issued.Any additional requirements , primarily in the Washington and Wyoming proceedings, will remain for the final review and adoption process set forth in the Idaho Stipulation. The Idaho Stipulation and Commitments, Exhibit No. 101 , lists 50 General Commitments applicable to all states.Do you recommend any modifications to the General Commitments based upon your review of the Oregon Stipulation and Commitments? Yes, I recommend some modifications.The modifications I am recommending be adopted provide additional benefits or clarification above and beyond those General Commitments originally included in Exhibit No. 101 for Idaho.I would also observe that there are clarifications and other variations in the Oregon Stipulation that will benefit Idaho but do not necessitate changes being recommended to the Idaho Settlement. CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 8 1/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) STAFF 101 The recommended modifications are for General commi tment Nos. II , 18 , 37 , 38 , and 48.I al so recommend adding two new General Commitment s, Nos. 51 and 52.These Commitments are shown on Staff Exhibit No. 102. I will discuss each of these changes individually. Please explain each modification Staff recommends for the Commitments Applicable to All States. The change to General Commitment No. 11 clarifies ring-fencing provisions with the attachment of Appendix 1. Appendix 1 titled "ppw. Holdings LLC Ringfencing provisions u is included in Exhibit No. 102. The final signed ring-fencing document will still be filed with the Commission as required in Idaho-Specific Commitment No.5 (1-5). The adoption of Oregon General Commitment No. 17 provides clarification related to unrestricted access to written information and documents used for credit rating purposes. Adoption of Oregon General Commitment No. 18 provides additional detail related to the restriction of dividend payments when common equity ratios don t exceed the percentage floors identified.Detail on how the ratios will be calculated is also included in this Commi tment General Commitment No. 18 is included for dividend restrictions only and is not intended by the CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 8 1/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) 3 STAFF 102 parties as a ratemaking provision that impacts rates. Staf f next recommends that General Commi tment Nos. 22 , 37 and 38 be noted as intentionally left blank. They are replaced with Oregon-Specific Commitment Nos. 0- 9 , 0-, 0-12 and 0-14.These four new Commi tments will be discussed later as Idaho-Specific Commitment Nos. 28,31 and 1-32. Next , General Commitment Nos. 51 and 52 are added to reflect the ownership transfer to PacifiCorp of the Intermountain Geothermal Company and the associated steam rights to the steam resources serving PacifiCorp Blundell geothermal plant.This Commitment will eliminate some affiliate transactions and payments for steam purchases at Blundell thus reducing the annual steam costs.It also allows for expansion of the plant and purchase of additional steam rights where cost -effective. Finally General Commitment No. 48 should be modi f ied to add the reference to Commitment No. 52 in the IRP consideration list. Are there Oregon-Specific Commitments that you recommend being adopted as Idaho-Specific Commitments in this case? Yes, I recommend adoption in whole or in part of Oregon-Specific Commitment Nos. 5 , 7 , 8 , 9,, 11, 12 , 16 , 17 , 18, 21 and 22. These Commitments CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 81/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) 4 STAFF 103 adopted will replace or will be added to existing Idaho- Specific Commitments as shown on Staff Exhibit No. 102. The current Idaho-Specific Commitment No. 1-26 will be modified to become No. 1-36 to include all the recommended Idaho-Specific Commitments. Please explain the benefits to Idaho if these modified or additional Idaho-Specific Commitments shown on Exhibi t No.1 02 are adopted. Idaho-Specific Commitment No. 1-14 is replaced with modified Oregon-Specific Commitment No. 22. establishes an annual contribution of $40 000 to the Lend- Hand program that assists low- income residential customers.It is superior because it does not limit PacifiCorp and MidAmerican contributions to simply matching customer and employee contributions up to a maximum amount of $20 000.If customer and employee contributions were less than $20 000 (which has been the case for PacifiCorp ' s Idaho service terri tory historically), the matching contribution would also be less than $20 000 , making the total contribution less than the $40 000 fixed amount guaranteed under 1-(0-22) . I -14 now provides a predictable funding amount rather than an amount that varies depending on the generosity of parties other than the Applicants. CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 8 1/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) STAFF 104 Idaho-Specific Commitment No. 1-15 is replaced with modified 0-21.It improves upon the provisions of 15 by setting timelines for the proposed arrearage management proj ect and establ ishing the $66,000 proj ect funding level as a floor rather than a ceiling. Idaho-Specific Commitment No. 1-21 is replaced with modified 0-15 to be consistent with General Commitment No. 18 Applicable to all states.It also strengthens or reinforces the ring-fencing language and provisions. Idaho-Specific Commitment No. 1-24 is replaced with 0-5 to provide clarification and to strengthen or reinforce the ring-fencing language and provisions. I recommend that Oregon-Specific Commitment Nos. 7 through 0-12 become Idaho-Specific Commitment Nos. 26 through 1- 31 .These Oregon- Specif ic Commitments provide addi tional structure to implement the hold harmless clauses already recommended in the Idaho Stipulation and Commitments (Exhibit No. 101)and provide for rate credits.The rate credits in 1-27 and 1- provide additional benefits to Idaho customers of approximately $640 000 annually for test years 2006 and 2007.The rate credits will then decline until eliminated in a 2011 test year.The hold harmless provisions as structured and clari f ied in 1-28 through 1- 3 0 guarantee CASE NO. PAC-05- 1/13/06 CARLOCK, T (Supp) 6 STAFF 105 that approximately $820,000 annually in costs will not be reflected in Idaho rates for test years 2006 through 2010 with approximately $380 000 annually thereafter. Idaho-Specific Commitment No. 1-32 replaces Commi tment No.3 7 appl icable to all states.This is beneficial to Idaho by protecting customers from any credi t rating downgrades caused by actions resul ting from this transaction during the first year.The debt cost adjustment for each notch of credit rating downgrade will reduce debt costs until the debt issuance is no longer outstanding.This Commitment 1-32 must be compared to 37 as only one of these adjustments is available in the guarantee.Since PacifiCorp s Rating Outlook is negative it is possible that a credit rating downgrade could occur making 1-32 beneficial.The actual debt costs as discussed in 1- 3 7 can still be lower than rates for comparable companies even without the guarantee. Idaho-Specific Commitment Nos. 1-33 through 1- should be adopted to strengthen or reinforce the ring- fencing language and provisions. Are there other provisions in the Oregon Stipulation that should be adopted in this Idaho case? Yes , paragraph 10 of the Oregon Stipulation should be adopted in concept in the Idaho Order.This addition strengthens or reinforces the ring-fencing CASE NO. PAC-E- 05 - 8 1/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) STAFF106 language and provisions.Instead of making Berkshire Hathaway an Applicant in this Idaho case, paragraph 10 can be adopted by having the sworn statements filed as follows: The sworn statements of Warren Buffett and Wal ter Scott, Jr. (together , the shareholders) will provide that neither will exercise anycontrol, directly or indirectly, on matters that pertain to PacifiCorp (except for matters relating to PacifiCorp that are ministerial innature). The sworn statements will also provide that the Shareholders will recuse themselves from voting as MEHC or Berkshire Hathaway directors on MEHC or Berkshire Hathaway Board of Directors matters concerning PacifiCorpacti vi ties or operations. The sworn statements will provide that the future transfer of theShareholders' shares will require an agreement by the transferee to abide by the limitations recited above, as applicable, regarding the power to exercise substantial influence overPacif iCorp if, to the Shareholders ' knowledge, the transferee would own 5% or more of the voting interests of MEHC or Berkshire Hathaway after such transfer. By the foregoing, the Shareholders, PacifiCorp, MEHC and Berkshire Hathaway do not concede that such transferees are affiliated interests... Does this conclude your supplemental testimony in this proceeding? Yes, it does. CASE NO. PAC-O5- 1/13/06 CARLOCK , T (Supp) 8 STAFF 107 (The following proceedings were had in open hearing. (Staff Exhibit Nos. 101 and 102, having been premarked for identification , were admitted into evidence. MR. HOWELL:And Ms. Carlock is available for cross -examination. Thank you.COMMISSIONER SMITH: Mr. Purdy, do you have questions? MR. PURDY:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Mr. Budge. MR. BUDGE:No questions. COMMISSIONER SMITH:Mr. Noestrand - - Nostrand. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:Thank you, Madam Chair. CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. VAN NOSTRAND: Good morning, Ms. Carlock. Good morning. I just had a brief question just on that provision you were referring to, page 8 of your - - of your supplemental testimony.Could you explain what the purpose , in your mind, of including this - - proposing that this provision be included in Idaho? 108 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID CARLOCK (X)Staff83701 The purpose that I included this was that it was an item that was reflected in Oregon's Stipulation that would increase the ring fencing benefits.It is a provision that we get whether it's adopted by this Commission or not.It I S one of the items that if you have it in one state, it automatically applies to every state. The concern that the Company expressed regarding the Oregon provision, I can understand their concern there that they would have to go back to every state, so whether it I s included in the Idaho Order or not I would leave to the Commission , but it I S not required. Thank you. MR. VAN NOSTRAND:I have no further questions, Madam Chair. Are there questions from theCOMMISSIONER SMITH: Commissioners? I just have one.COMMISSIONER HANSEN: COMMISSIONER SMITH:Commissioner Hansen. EXAMINATION BY COMMISSIONER HANSEN: The question I I d have is a follow-up of earlier with Mr. Gale.I I d ask is the Staff comfortable with MidAmerican's cost share allocation methodology of costs to 109 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING O. BOX 578, BOI SE, ID 83701 CARLOCK (Com)Staff PacifiCorp? The allocation would be reviewed in proceedings that we would go forward with.For the initial review, yes, I am comfortable with that, and that would be an item that we would continue to review as we moved forward with all allocations in all cases. COMMISSIONER HANSEN:Thank you.That I S all I have. COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER:Commissioner Kj ellander. EXAMINATION BY COMMI S S lONER KJELLANDER: Ms. Carlock , if you could for me , I know some of the other states have some pending Stipulations that may well be filed within the next week to 10 days.How would it be that Staff would inform the Commission, along with the Company, with regards to which Stipulations we may want to adopt and accept? The Stipulation in section three of that item gives the procedure that the Company will follow, the time lines that they will follow those different Stipulations, as well as the final Orders with the other states , and also a procedure that the various parties can follow to adopt those 110 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID 83701 CARLOCK (Com)Staff items. I would expect from the Staff perspective that would go through each one of those provisions and that there would be some sort of a written document to the Commission that would recommend the items for adoption as a supplemental Attachment A to the Order. Any redirect, Mr. Howell?COMMISSIONER SMITH: No redirect.MR. HOWELL: COMMISSIONER SMITH:Thank you for your help, Ms. Carlock. (The witness left the stand. COMMISSIONER SMITH:By my tally, that concludes the witnesses that were scheduled to testify today.Do any parties have any further matters to bring before the Commission before we close the hearing? Does any party see the need for a posthearing brief? If not, then the Commission will thank the parties for their diligence in processing this case, congratulate them on their success in achieving the Stipulation, and we will consider it as speedily as possible. I know we cancelled those public hearings, but I no longer recall the comment deadline. MR . HOWELL:Madam Chairman , the comment deadline was the 19th, which was the same day for the two public III HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE , ID COLLOQUY 83701 hearings. Tha ti s --COMMI S S lONER SMI TH : Thursday.MR . HOWELL: COMMISSIONER SMITH:Okay.Then after the comment deadline has passed, the record will be closed and the Commission will deliberate as speedily as possible and issue an Order.And we thank you all for your attendance and your help. The hearing is adjourned. (The hearing concluded at 10:31 a. 112 HEDRICK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID COLLOQUY 83701 AUTHENTICATION This is to certify that the foregoing is a true and correct transcript to the best of my ability of the proceedings held in the matter of the Joint Application of MidAmerican Energy Holdings Company (MEHC) and PacifiCorp dba Utah Power & Light Company for an Order authorizing MEHC to acquire PacifiCorp, Case No. PAC-05-8, commencing on Tuesday, January 17 , 2006, at the Commission Hearing Room , 472 West Washington , Boise, Idaho, and the original thereof for the file of the Commission. Accuracy of all prefiled testimony as originally submitted to this Reporter and incorporated herein at the direction of the Commission is the sole responsibility of the submitting parties. .,... """" MUl?/? L'\ "'\ ....." "'1 ~. .. . ~.:- -'-,.y . . !4il 1A.Rl' . '\ WENDY J. MURRAY tar Publlc : ~: ~ \": in and for the St e of Idaho, -: ~ ""'. reSl lng at Merl lan a o. \~\ pu~y' ~~i My Commission expires 2-2008. .... .;::- ~ ~l'..e...\.'9"-Idaho CSR No. 475 4! -irE o~ ~~1I""jj~iI""" 113 HEDRI CK COURT REPORTING P. O. BOX 578, BOISE, ID AUTHENT I CAT I ON 83701