20240717Customer Hearing Transcript.pdf

RECEIVED
Wednesday, July 17, 2024
IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
In The Matter Of:
IN THE MATTER OF R OCKY MO UNTAIN PO WER'S APPLICA TION
CUSTOMER HEARING
June 17, 2024
T&T Reporting, LLC
477 Shoup Avenue, Suite 105
Idaho Falls, Idaho 83402
[phone]
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1 BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION
2 IDAHO FALLS , IDAHO
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8 IN THE MATTER OF ROCKY MOUNTAIN )
POWER' S APPLICATION TO COMPLETE )
9 THE STUDY REVIEW PHASE OF THE ) Case No . :
COSTS AND BENEFITS OF ON-SITE ) PAC-E-23-17
10 CUSTOMER GENERATION. )
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14 REPORTER' S TRANSCRIPT OF CUSTOMER HEARING
15 Monday, June 17 , 2024 ; 5 : 00 o ' clock p .m.
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20 BE IT REMEMBERED that the Customer Hearing
in the above-captioned matter was taken at the Idaho
21 Falls Activity Center, South Room, 1575 N. Skyline
Drive, Idaho Falls , Idaho, before DiAnn Erdman
22 Prock, CSR SRL 963 , CCR, Court Reporter and Notary
Public, in and for the State of Idaho, in the
23 above-entitled matter .
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1 A P P E A R A N C E S
2 Public Utility Commissioners :
JOHN HAMMOND, JR. , Chairman
3 EDWARD LODGE
4 For the Commission :
OFFICE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
5 BY: MICHAEL LEE DUVAL
11331 W. Chinden Boulevard
6 Building 8
Suite 201A
7 Boise , Idaho 83720
(208) 334-0320
8 E-mail : michael .duval@puc . idaho .gov
9 Also Present:
ADAM RUSH, Public Information Officer
10 JOLENE BOSSARD, Utilities Compliance
Investigator
11 JOSH HAVER, Policy Analyst
MONICA BARRIOS-SANCHEZ , Commission Secretary
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CUSTOMER HEARING - June 17, 2024
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1 (The public hearing proceeded at
2 5 : 00 p .m. as follows : )
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4 COMMISSIONER HAMMOND : Good afternoon .
5 Just a little closer.
6 Good afternoon . This is the time and
7 place for a customer hearing in Case Number
8 PAC-E-23-17 .
9 Further identified as In the Matter of
10 Rocky Mountain Power ' s Application to Complete the
11 Study Review Phase of the Costs and Benefits of
12 Onsite Customer Generation .
13 The purpose of this hearing today is to
14 take testimony from members of the public in
15 reference to Rocky Mountain Power ' s application in
16 this case that was filed on June 29th, 2023 .
17 My name is Commissioner John Hammond. I
18 am the chair of today ' s proceedings , and I am joined
19 to my right by Commissioner Ed Lodge -- Edward
20 Lodge .
21 Commission President Eric Anderson is
22 unavailable today due to his attendance at an
23 important conference this week, but together the
24 three of us comprise the commission in this case
25 that will collectively make a final determination on

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1 this matter.
2 Today' s objective is to take live public
3 testimony which will be added to the underlying
4 record in this case .
5 The commission will review the facts and
6 evidence in the record to make its final decisions
7 for this proceeding.
8 For anyone that wishes to submit written
9 comments , we have comment sheets available here
10 today. In addition, people may submit written
11 comments online on our website for the Idaho Public
12 Utilities Commission.
13 For today ' s proceedings , we have DiAnn
14 Prock, serving as our court reporter . Since this is
15 an official proceeding where testimony is taken,
16 please speak slowly if you are testifying and
17 clearly into the microphone .
18 Currently, we have nobody signed up to
19 speak or testify. So at this point in time , I think
20 what we ' ll do -- well , first, actually, before we
21 get to that, I ' d like to take the appearance of the
22 parties of record in this case .
23 First let' s have staff for the Idaho
24 Public Utilities Commission introduce themselves .
25 MR. DUVAL : Thank you, Commissioner

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1 Hammond.
2 Michael Duval representing commission
3 staff.
4 COMMISSIONER HAMMOND : And is there
5 anybody here for the company today?
6 MR. ALDER: Yeah, Commissioner. Mark
7 Alder with Rocky Mountain Power .
8 COMMISSIONER HAMMOND : And is there
9 anybody else here that wishes to be identified for
10 purposes of the record?
11 (NO audible response . )
12 COMMISSIONER HAMMON: Seeing none , let' s
13 move forward.
14 As I said, we don ' t have anyone here
15 currently that wishes to testify. So what we ' ll do
16 is we ' ll go off the record for ten minutes to see --
17 to allow for the possibility that somebody may be
18 showing up a bit late due to traffic or otherwise ,
19 and we ' ll go back on the record then.
20 Thank you very much, and we are
21 adjourned for the moment.
22 (A brief recess was had. )
23 COMMISSIONER HAMMOND : Okay. So we ' re
24 going back on the record in Case Number PAC-E-23-17 .
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1 the Matter of Rocky Mountain Power ' s Application to
2 Complete the Study Review Phase of the Costs and
3 Benefits of Onsite Customer Generation .
4 We have gone off the record for ten
5 minutes to see if anybody -- the public would arrive
6 to testify at this proceeding. As of right now, we
7 still don ' t have anyone that has come to the meeting
8 and offered to testify.
9 With that, we ' re going to close out the
10 hearing today and bring this matter to conclusion at
11 least for today.
12 Thank you very much everyone for being
13 here today and we are adjourned.
14 (Whereupon, the proceedings concluded at
15 5 : 11 p .m. )
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1 REPORTER' S CERTIFICATE
2 STATE OF IDAHO )
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3 COUNTY OF BONNEVILLE )
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6 I , DiAnn Erdman Prock, CSR, CCR, a duly
commissioned Notary Public in and for the State of
7 Idaho, do hereby certify:
8 That I took down in Stenotype all of the
proceedings had in the before-entitled matter at the
9 time and place indicated, and that thereafter said
Stenotype notes were transcribed into typewriting at
10 and under my direction and supervision, and the
foregoing transcript constitutes a full , true and
11 accurate record of the proceedings had.
12 I further certify that I have no interest
in the event of the action .
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WITNESS my hand and seal this 19th day of
14 June , 2024 .
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16 ' DfAnn Erdman Prock
COMMISSION NO. 51352
17 NOTARY PUBLIC
STATE OF IDAHO
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20 DiAnn Erdman Prock
Idaho CSR SRL 963 , CCR
21 Notary Public in and for
the State of Idaho
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IN THE MATTER OF ROCKY MOUNTAIN POWER'S APPLICATION CUSTOMER HEARING
June 17,2024
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