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1 (The following proceedings were

2 had in open hearing.)

3 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Exhibit 107 will

4 be identified on the record and part of the record

5 if there is no objections. So ordered.

6 (Staff Exhibit No. 107 was marked

7 for identification.)

8 MR. PURDY: I tender her for

9 cross-examination.

10 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Mr. Budge.

11 MR. BUDGE: No questions.

12 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Mr. Nye.

13 MR. NYE: None.

14 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Mr. Ward.

15 MR. WARD: No questions.

16 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Mr. Richardson.

17 MR. RICHARDSON: No questions,

18 Mr. Chairman.

19 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: PacifiCorp.

20 Mr. Miller.

21 MR. MILLER: Just a -- I think two or

22 three questions.

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1 CROSS-EXAMINATION

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3 BY MR. MILLER:

4 Q. At page 10 of your testimony, you

5 recommended that the customer payments contemplated

6 by the Company should be incorporated in the tariffs

7 so that they became I guess public and enforceable;

8 that is, is it your understanding that the Company

9 has committed to, within a reasonable period of time

10 after approval, of filing such tariff?

11 A. Yes.

12 Q. So that satisfies your recommendation

13 in that regard?

14 A. Yes, it does.

15 Q. With respect to some of the customer

16 service standards, you had suggested the possibility

17 of different kind of votes or response or reply by

18 the Company than those proposed. The Company has

19 proposed in Mr. Moir's rebuttal testimony filing a

20 report with the Company not later than 2002 that

21 would detail the Company's experience with

22 implementing the standards and providing a forum for

23 discussion of improvements to the standards based on

24 experience to-date.

25 I want just to be sure that from your

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1 point of view, it would be appropriate to have

2 discussions about different time intervals at that

3 time after some experience had been gained and allow

4 the Company's proposal to be implemented now as

5 proposed. Do you understand that? What would your

6 thoughts be on that?

7 A. Yeah, I recognized that the Company

8 was a bit uncomfortable with its -- its commitments

9 and that it has not fully explored what the current

10 range of performance might be, and so was not really

11 willing to tighten up those performance standards

12 any further than it already committed to.

13 And I am comfortable as an alternative

14 with allowing the Company to have some experience,

15 on the -- on the recognition that they will come in

16 and talk further about where we could -- we would

17 appropriately set those performance levels in the

18 future.

19 Q. All right. And as part of the Order

20 hopefully approving the transaction, would it be

21 your suggestion that the Commission attach a

22 condition requiring the filing of such a report?

23 A. Yes.

24 Q. Great. Just one other area:

25 On page 16, you had a recommendation

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1 along similar lines; that is, the response and the

2 time for responding to billing inquiries.

3 And on page 4 of Mr. Moir's rebuttal,

4 he proposes to clarify that commitment by saying

5 that PacifiCorp/ScottishPower will answer most

6 questions on bills at the time of the initial phone

7 call from the customer. For billing questions that

8 need more investigation, PacifiCorp/ScottishPower

9 will investigate and respond to the inquiry as soon

10 as possible. If PacifiCorp has not investigated and

11 responded to the customer within 15 days, we will

12 automatically pay the customer $50.

13 Do you recall that testimony?

14 A. Yes.

15 Q. From your point of view, is that an

16 acceptable clarification to the suggestion you had

17 on page 16?

18 A. Yes.

19 MR. MILLER: No further questions.

20 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Okay. Let's see

21 if we have any questions from the Commissioners.

22 I have none. I do thank you.

23 MR. PURDY: I have no redirect.

24 (The witness left the stand.)

25 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: That completes

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1 your case?

2 MR. PURDY: Yes, it does.

3 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Okay. Well, it

4 looks like we have finished -- just about finished

5 this technical hearing.

6 I think one matter of business is

7 we've had some exhibits that have been submitted and

8 we've given numbers to and identified them at the

9 time and they haven't been yet put in as part of the

10 record. So without any objections, those exhibits

11 that have been numbered and not yet been part of the

12 record will be part of the record if there is no

13 objections. Being none, so ordered.

14 MR. PURDY: Mr. Chairman, I would just

15 move that all exhibits identified be admitted into

16 the record.

17 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Okay, and that

18 way all will be identified if there's no objection.

19 So ordered.

20 (All exhibits previously marked

21 for identification were admitted into evidence.)

22 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: We'll now --

23 this pretty much completes our technical hearing of

24 this case. I would ask if any parties have any

25 final comments they want to make.

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1 I think we discussed earlier that

2 briefs would be in order with the Commission.

3 Anyone that want -- any parties that want to file a

4 brief may do so, and I think we set the limit of

5 21 days. So within 21 days, if anyone cares to file

6 a brief with the Commission --

7 MR. MILLER: Could we just look at a

8 calendar to see when 21 days would be?

9 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: We want to at

10 least give you till sometime in August.

11 MR. MILLER: I wonder if I could just

12 make a suggestion for the Commission's

13 consideration:

14 It's my understanding that it would

15 probably be two weeks before we get transcripts,

16 more or less, correct, which would basically leave

17 six days for the preparation -- six or seven days

18 for the preparation of the transcript -- or,

19 preparation of the brief. I wonder what the

20 Commission's attitude would be toward having the

21 briefs due, say, on the 13th of August.

22 COMMISSIONER SMITH: Is that a

23 Friday?

24 MR. MILLER: Friday.

25 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Commission has

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1 no problem with setting that at the 13th then. 13th

2 of August would be the date.

3 MR. MILLER: It would be our

4 understanding that there would just be one filing of

5 simultaneous briefs; wouldn't have any need for

6 further replies and counterreplies.

7 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: That is correct.

8 MR. MILLER: Very good.

9 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: Okay. Is there

10 any -- yes, Mr. Nye.

11 MR. NYE: I just want to renew the

12 Motion that I think is under advisement at the

13 conclusion of the presentation of the evidence: The

14 Motion to dismiss, or in the alternative, to

15 postpone. I just do that for the record without

16 further arguments, just making a note of that.

17 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: That will be

18 made a note of in the record.

19 Okay, is there any other business that

20 anyone wants to bring forth before we adjourn the

21 technical hearing?

22 We will recess -- in fact, we will

23 recess the hearing until July the 27th at seven p.m.

24 in Rexburg for a public hearing, and then we'll have

25 a hearing on the 28th in Pocatello, a public

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1 hearing.

2 COMMISSIONER KJELLANDER: I thought

3 that Mr. Ward wanted the option to make oral as

4 opposed to writing a brief.

5 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: I thought we got

6 Mr. Ward's statement why he was explaining why he

7 wanted an oral. Is that correct?

8 MR. WARD: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

9 That's all I wanted.

10 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: I think we have

11 that.

12 Is there any other business?

13 MR. MILLER: We have none.

14 COMMISSIONER HANSEN: With that, then,

15 we will recess and see you in Rexburg, Idaho, on the

16 27th.

17 (The hearing adjourned at

18 1:45 p.m.)

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1 AUTHENTICATION

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4 This is to certify that the foregoing

5 proceedings held in the matter of the joint

6 Application and Petition of PacifiCorp and

7 Scottish Power plc for a declaratory Order or Order

8 approving proposed transaction and an Order

9 approving the issuance of PacifiCorp common stock,

10 Case No. PAC-E-99-1, commencing Tuesday through

11 Thursday, July 13 through 15, 1999, at the

12 Commission Hearing Room, 472 West Washington, Boise,

13 Idaho, are true and correct transcripts of said

14 proceedings to the best of my ability, and the

15 originals thereof for the file of the Commission.

16 Accuracy of all prefiled testimony as

17 originally submitted to this Reporter and

18 incorporated herein at the direction of the

19 Commission is the sole responsibility of the

20 submitting parties.

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23 __________________________________
WENDY J. MURRAY, Notary Public
24 in and for the State of Idaho,
residing at Meridian, Idaho.
25 My Commission expires 2-5-2002.
Idaho CSR No. 475

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