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HomeMy WebLinkAbout20021018Illuminet - Florack Rebuttal.pdfPage 1 of 21BEFORE THE IDAHO PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSIONIDAHO TELEPHONE ASSOCIATIONC I T I ZEN S TEL E CO MMUN I CAT ION SCOMPANY OF IDAHO , CENTURY TELOF IDAHO , CENTURY TEL OF THEGEM STATE , POTLATCH TELEPHONECOMPANY and ILLUMINET , INC.CASE NO. QWE-T-02-Complainantsvs.QWEST COMMUNICATIONS , INC.Respondent.Rebuttal Testimony ofPaul Florackon Behal f 0 III uminet , Inc. October 18 , 2002 Are you the same Paul Florack that pre-filed testimony in this proceeding on September 27 , 2002? Yes I am. Have you reviewed the pre-filed testimony of Scott McIntyre and of Joseph Craig, which was filed September 27 2002 in this proceeding on behalf of Qwest Corporation? Yes I have. I .I NTRODUCT I ON Do you have a general reaction to the testimony of Mr. McIntyre or of Mr. Craig? Yes.Qwest I S testimony is simply a "smoke screen " to avoid file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 2 of the real issue in this case -- whether , under the SouthernIdaho Access Service Catalog ("Catalog , Qwest can assessSignaling System No.SS7") message charges for signalingmessages that support intrastate end user calls that are notsubj ect to the Catalog.Does Illuminet have any arrangements wi th Qwest for "enduser traffic, but its carrier/customers have those arrangements withQwest.And while Qwest makes attempts to rebut the factspresented in the testimonies of Illuminet and its co-Complainants , the record is clear that Illuminet is the SS7network signaling agent for its carrier/customers , and it Ifrom these carrier/customers perspective that the issue ofwhether it is proper to assess SS7 message charges under theCatalog must be determined. Why is the end user traffic important for purposes of this proceeding? Because wi thout these SS7 signaling messages no inter- carrler end user traffic of any category would be completed. Thus , the SS7 signaling message lS an integral and essential component of the VOlce traffic , which Qwest effectively admi ts when it recogni zes , as Mr. Craig does , tha t the SS 7 signaling messages at issue "are used to set up,superVlse and release call pa ths. "Craig Testimony at page lines 17-18) Moreover , Qwest I s wi tnesses confirm that only Illuminet carrier/customers carry end user customer traffic (see McIntyre Testimony at page (line 16)( " I 11 umi net serves no end user customers at all.and it is only these file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 3 of carrier/customers that generate the SS7 message signals forwhich Qwest has been assessing access charges under Section15 of its Catalog (see Craig Testimony at page (lines 1-2) ("Illuminet does not own any end office swi tch pointcodes. ") .Q :Based on your reVlew of Qwest I s testimony are you convincedthat Qwest cannot properly implement the Catalog I S SS7structure it has filed?Yes.Al though Mr. McIntyre states that Qwest made substantial investment to update its systems so thatsignaling costs could be assessed and recovered based on customer I S actual usage of the SS7 signaling network"(McIntyre Testimony at page (lines 12-14), whatever thelevel of the investment (the amount of which isconspicuously absent from Mr. McIntyre I s testimony), Qwest still failed to properly implement the billing detail necessary to separately identify the types of intrastate SS7 signaling messages that are an integral component of the underlying voice traffic.Not only does that decision fly in the face of what the Federal Communications Commission FCC"deemed necessary for proper implementation of the unbundled SS7 tariff structure that Qwest elected implement , but under Qwest I s misplaced theories , ensures that unwarranted costs would , in fact , be imposed upon those of its competitors that use Illuminet as their SS7 network provider agent.Because the record is clear Qwest was on notice , at least as of November 2000 , that Illuminet had concerns about improper implementation of an unbundled SS7 tariff structure and Qwest chose to ignore those concerns file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 4 of Mr. McIntyre I s testimony confirms that Qwest designed itss ys tems to ens ure tha t re ul t Will you summarlze your overall concerns?Yes.The lack of relevant facts presented by Qwest and theuse of rhetoric and misleading statements all seem aimed confusing the record in an effort to draw the Commission Iattention away from the fact that Qwest has chosen to fileand implement a tariff structure that it was unprepared implement properly.Qwest has arbi trarily and openlyrefused to implement available measuring technology appropriately segregate SS7 messages by jurisdiction andcall type.Illuminet trusts that the Commission will seethrough the confusion that Qwest has created to support itsinherently unjustifiable position.It is clear that public policy, the facts , and , most importantly, common sense dictates a resul t far different from that which Qwest has offered.When reviewed in its totali ty, the record confirms that Qwest has prematurely unbundled SS7 signaling messages from its Catalog in direct violation of common sense and governing policies , and that Qwest now wants the Commission to bless this improper action.Qwest I S self-chosen inabili ty to properly track and identify the SS7 message charges for the end user call type and jurisdiction however , should resul t in the wi thdrawal of its tariff structure until it can accurately and separately identify the SS7 signaling messages that are not properly subj ect the Catalog, and otherwise demonstrates it is consistent wi th all appropriate IPUC policies and appropriate ICAs. file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 5 of What would the policy concerns and practical resul ts be ifthe Commission did not grant the relief the Complainantsseek?Fundamentally, Qwest will be rewarded for improperlyimplementing a tariff structure that will simply shiftunwarranted costs to Illuminet I s carrier/customersincluding the costs that Qwest generates for the SS7signaling that supports its own end user customer trafficand that end user customer traffic associated wi th enti tiesother than Qwest and the Illuminet carrier/customer.Thisresul t will thwart the further development of competi ti veend user markets in Idaho.Moreover , to the extent thatQwest does not assess these charges to those enti ties thatdirectly connect to it (i., do not use a third party SS7provider like Illuminet) Qwest would gain an improper competitive advantage for carriers seeking SS7 network connecti vi ty. II. QWEST HAS PRESENTED NO BASIS TO DENY THE RELIEF COMPLAINANTS REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION Do you have any overall lssues regarding the Qwest testimonies? The Qwest testimonies are based on the following threeYes. unfounded or unproven premlses.Generally, Qwest improperly suggests that: 1 .The jurisdiction of SS7 messages required for local/EAS/IntraMTA CMRS and toll is irrelevant Slnce the concept of jurisdiction applies only to end user traffic (see , e. g., McIntyre Testimony at page (lines 20-21) and page (lines 4-; and Craig file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Testimony at page 11 (lines 5-10)2 .Illuminet is the "customer " under the Catalog andit should pay all SS7 message charges being assessed(see , e., McIntyre Testimony at page (line 12)page 20 (lines 4-, and page (lines 22-23); and3 .Payment of these SS7 message signaling charges byIlluminet is more equitable because it and itscarrier/customers have taken advantage of some type ofpricing loopholes or have circumvented charges throughthe prior rate structures (see , e. g., McIntyreTestimony at page (lines 10-12), page (lines 14-16), page (lines 2-, page (lines 16-17), andpage 31 (lines 13-14)In addi tion , Qwest makes a number of claims thatconfuse the record. 1. THE JURISDICTION OF THE SS7 MESSAGE IS RELEVANT BECAUSE NATURALLY FOLLOWS THE END USER CUSTOMER TRAFFIC IT SUPPORTS Is Qwest correct that the jurisdiction of the SS7 message irrelevant? No.Both Mr. McIntyre I s testimony and Mr. Craig I s testimony on this point simply misfocus attention from the fact that the SS7 signaling messages are an integral component of the end user customer traffic. Please explain? Of course "a bit is a bit is a bit" from a purely electronic perspective , but the economic relationships established by the industry I s regulators continue to make very significant distinctions based upon the various categories of end user file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc Page 6 of 10/23/2002 Page 7 of customer traffic.The distinction between local calls andlong distance calls has consequences for both the end usercustomer traffic and the SS7 signaling traffic , which lS anindispensable component of the facili ties that are utilizedto complete the end user customer traffic.Moreover , Qwestcan hardly contend that the jurisdiction of the SS7signaling message is irrelevant since Mr. McIntyre , at page(1 ine 22) through page (line 2) of his testimony,admi ts that these signaling messages are necessary establish and tear down every type of end user call.Do you have any support for your statement?Yes.As explained above , the FCC determined that the SS7network supports a wide variety of services and made clearthat it expected SS7 costs to be allocated and recovered from all of the various end user services for which it provides an essential component.Specifically, the FCC found that "CCS7 (the FCC I S term for SS 7 represents a general network upgrade , the core costs of which should be borne by all network users.4 FCC Rcd 2824 , 2832 (1989) (emphasis added) The FCC also found that SS7 costs "will be used for a wide variety of both intrastate and interstate services.Id. at 2833. Thus , SS7 signaling message costs associated with providing local exchange service should be recovered from the local exchange rate payer , SS7 signaling message costs associated wi th providing exchange access should be recovered from the purchaser of access , and SS7 signaling costs associated with providing long distance service should be recovered from the file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 8 of long distance user.Do you have any other support?Yes.Common sense -- no interoffice end user customer calls(regardless of whether they are local , toll , EAS , wirelessetc.) would be completed absent the SS7 signaling messagesat issue.Similarly, Qwest can hardly claim that thejurisdiction of the SS7 signaling messages vis-vis thevoice traffic they support is irrelevant when its ownCatalog relies upon the jurisdiction of the voice call whereactual measurement capabili ty is unavailable (see Section 2Page 19 , Release 2 , and 2.10 Jurisdictional ReportsRequirements, Southern Idaho Access Service Catalog) Further , Qwest I s own FCC filing, which unbundled SS7signaling message charges from its interstate access ratesnecessarily implies that it jurisdictionalized its SS7 costs. Finally, if jurisdiction of the SS7 signaling messages was irrelevant as suggested by Qwest , there would have been no reason for Congress to reference in Section 271 (g) ( 5 ) tha t Qwest may now transport signaling information used in connection wi th both local services (which the Act refers as "telephone exchange services ) and access services (whi ch the Act refers to as "exchange access.I have attached copies of those statutory sections to this testimony so that the Commission can reVlew the provisions for itself.See Exhibit 407. 2 .ILLUMINET AND ITS CARRIER/CUSTOMERS ARE THE file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 9 of CUSTOMER FOR ONLY CERTAIN OF THE SS7 SIGNALINGMESSAGES GENERATED BY QWESTIs Qwest correct that Slnce Illuminet established the linksand ports required to connect to the Qwest SS7 networkIlluminet is the customer for all SS7 signaling messagecharges assessed under the Access Catalog because it haspurchased a finished product?No.Qwest has self-created that rationalization based on anoverly broad interpretation of its Catalog.Mr. McIntyre Idefinition of "finished product" at page (lines 4-suffers from the same improper premise that the jurisdictionof the SS7 signaling messages are not relevant.MoreoverMr. McIntyre appears to forget the very distinction at pages4 to 5 of his testimony between "accessing " the network andutilizing" the network.Illuminet established a networkt hat con n e c t s t 0 ( 0 r , i n Mr. M c I n t y re i s t e rmi n log Y accesses ) other SS7 networks.Illuminet I carrier/ customers and the other enti ties to which Illuminet connects its network generate the SS7 signaling messages issue in this case , thereby "utilizing " the networks that have been connected.Illuminet does not package those messages as part of its service to its carrier/customers. As the record demonstrates , Illuminet passes through to its carrier/customers any SS7 signaling message charges it receives from Qwest. Is Illuminet attempting to either take advantage of some pricing loophole or circumvent charges? No.I know that Qwest makes these claims (see McIntyre Testimony at page (line 11) and page (lines 13- file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 10 of 14) ), but that position defies the facts of the relationshipbetween Qwest and Illuminet , and between Qwest and theIII uminet carrier / customers.Illuminet is clearly the customer for the facili ties andports required to set-up its network , and in its testimonyit and the Co-Complainants in the case readily admi t thatfor IntraLATA toll end user customer traffic of one of theCo-Complainants delivered to a Qwest end user , then Qwest ICatalog SS7 signaling message charges apply.That is whatoccurred prior to the unbundling of SS7 signaling messagecharges in this case.What Qwest fails to address , because it has no meaningfulresponse, is that there are separate arrangements thatgovern how Qwest and the Illuminet carrier/customer will handle other types of intrastate traffic (e. g. local , EAS IntraMTA CMRS , and jointly-provided access), including the SS7 signaling associated wi th that traffic.Again , Qwest has provided no basis that would allow it to unilaterally circumvent and/or modify these arrangements through Catalog revision , and Illuminet knows of no such fact particularly since Illuminet is the agent for its carrier/ customers as the record reflects. But Qwest contends that the Letter of Agency LOA"from the Illuminet carrier/customer that is provided to Qwest limi ted? I recognize that Mr. McIntyre makes these statements at page (lines 16 and 17) and at page (lines 13 and 14) of his file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 11 of 21testimony, but the LOAs speak for themselves.It is clearthat they are used to open the point codes of the Illuminetcarrier/customers for transporting SS7 signaling messages and from the SSPs of the Illuminet carrier/customers overtheir agent'. e. I 11 umi net) S S 7 n e two r k Howeve r , theLOA authorizes Illuminet to "conduct all negotiations andlssue orders for all services " associated wi th the pointcodes of the carrier/customer.While Qwest may rely uponthat LOA for Qwest' s own internal network securi ty purposes(see Craig Testimony at page (lines 19-21) and page ( 1 i n e s 2 2 - 2 3) ), t hat 1 i mi t e d use doe s not 1 i mi t the s cop e 0 fthe authori ty Illuminet has been gl ven as the agent of itscarrier/ customers.In any event I note that Qwest will notprocess any orders wi thout the LOA and that the LOA is onlyone aspect of the agency relationship established.indicated in my testimony, Qwest is fully aware of the relationship that Illuminet has wi th its Co-Complainant carrier/customers based on the SS7 network issues we address on their behalf , the fact that the charges are passed through to them wi thout mark-up and the fact that the establishment of voice trunks between Qwest and the Co- Complainants requlre that the Co-Complainants indicate Illuminet as the SS7 serVlce provider.In light of the overall relationship between Qwest and Complainants , common sense and proper interpretation of the Catalog makes clear that Illuminet and its carrier/customers are customers of Qwest only for specific purposes under the Catalog. As Mr. McIntyre notes at page (lines 1-15), isn t it true that Qwest is not a party to the contracts between Illuminet file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 12 of and its carrier/customers?Yes , but t hat mi sse s the poi n t .Qwest has a contractualrelationship wi th the Illuminet carrier/ customers (which areIlluminet's principals for purposes of signaling) and thosecontracts govern the intercarrier relationship between Qwestand the Illuminet carrier/customers for various types of enduser traffic , including all the necessary and integralcomponents of such traffic such as the SS7 message signalingat issue in this proceeding.Is the concept of "agency " something new to thetelecommunication industry?No.As will be testified by Illuminet' s Co-Complainantsthe concept of having agents provide various network or back-office functions is not new to the telephone industry. Is Mr. McIntyre correct at page (lines 9-21) that because Illuminet is not a party to its carrier/ customers interconnection agreements , those agreements are not relevant? No.The FCC has acknowledged that a non-carrler agent can assert the same right to nondiscriminatory access to directory assistance ("DA") database information as that provided to its principal IXC or Competi ti ve Local Exchange Carrier ("CLEC" ) , subj ect to the terms and condi tions established in the underlying interconnection agreement between the principal and LEC.Specifically, the FCC stated that: (WJ hen a CLEC or an IXC (having entered an interconnection agreement wi th the relevant LEC) designates a DA provider to act as their agent , that competing DA provider file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 enti tled to nondiscriminatory access to theproviding LECs ' local DA database.Naturally, the DA provider s database accesswill be consistent wi th the terms of therelevant interconnection agreement and wi the terms of the DA providers ' separateagreements wi th its carrier principal.16 FCC Rcd 2736 , 2748 While I recognlze that(2001) Illuminet is not a DA provider , and DA access is not atlssue in this case , the policy basis applies - the agent(Ill uminet) is subj ect to the interconnection agreement forpurposes of asserting the rights of its principals(including its Co-Complainant carrier/customers) Likewiseconsistent wi th the FCC's discussion (see id.regarding theneed to ensure that enti ties should be able to takeadvantage of "economies of scale " I have already indicatedthat Illuminet' s carrier/customers use Illuminet in order avoid the expense and effort involved in deploying their ownSS7 network. 3. ILLUMINET AND ITS CARRIER/CUSTOMERS HAVE NOT BEEN TAKING ADVANTAGE OF PRICING LOOPHOLES OR CIRCUMVENTING CHARGES Do you agree wi th Qwest that Illuminet and its carrier/customers have been taking advantage of some prlclng loophole or circumventing any charges? Absolutely not.In fact , this premise is so outrageous and irresponsible tha t it should not requlre a response. Unfortunately, however , since Qwest attempts to divert the Commission s attention from Qwest' s own inabili ty to properly implement its SS7 unbundled tariff structure I am compelled to set the record straight.Nei ther Illuminet nor its carrier/customers have been using any type of "pricing loop hole " associated wi th the access charges that the IXCs file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc Page 13 of 10/23/2002 Page 14 of paid prlor to Qwest' s efforts to unbundle its intrastate SS7signaling message charges.Where the voice traffic of anIlluminet carrier/customer was intrastate toll and subjectto the switched access charges of the Catalog, the SS7 coststhat Qwest incurred for that call were recovered from theIlluminet carrier/ customer through the swi tched accesscharges being paid.That has never been an issue andIlluminet has agreed that the current SS7 signaling messagecharges under the Catalog are proper for this category ofservlce.The arrangements in place , however , that governthe end user traffic types between Qwest and the Illuminetcarrier/customers govern whether and how SS7 signalingmessage charges should be assessed.The Illuminetcarrier/customers have arrangements with Qwest as to howthey individually would recover their respective SS7 signaling message costs associated wi th the various intrastate types of inter-company end user customer traffic. If Qwest is recovering its SS7 signaling costs associated wi th the end user customer traffic types governed by those arrangements wi th the Illuminet carrier/ customer , then any additional recovery that Qwest receives from the charges assessed incorrectly through the Catalog amounts to double recovery from the Illuminet carrier/ customer. Alternatively, if Qwest failed to include its SS7 costs in the arrangements applicable to the other intrastate end user types of calls , that mistake is Qwest' s alone and it cannot hide behind claims of a pricing " loophole " to misfocus attention away from that mistake.Rather , Qwest should seek renegotiation of those arrangements wi th the Illuminet carrier/ customers. file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 15 of In summary, where the end user traffic is properly assessedaccess charges under the Catalog, the SS7 signaling messagecharges apply.When the Catalog does not apply, such as thecase for local , EAS , intraMTA CMRS calls and jointlyprovided access , the underlying arrangements between Qwestand the Illuminet carrier/ customers applicable to that end-user traffic apply.Placed in proper context , thereforeQwest has no basis , let alone provided any fact , to evensuggest that any "pricing loop hole " has ever existed.Do you agree wi th Mr. McIntyre s suggestions at page line15), page (lines 2-6) and page (lines 21-23) that theCatalogs structure is more equitable?No.Far from being more equi table , the resul t of the SS7 signaling message revisions , if not corrected , would simply place more burden upon the Illuminet carrier/customer all because Qwest cannot properly distinguish the SS7 signaling messages associated wi th the types of intrastate traffic issue in this case.This issue was raised wi th Qwest prior to the development of it tariff structure and has been ignored. What do you mean that Qwest ignored concerns about the proper development of the unbundled SS7 signaling message structure? As indicated in my testimony at page 27 , Illuminet officially placed Qwest on notice in November 2000 as to Illuminet's concerns regarding the improper SS7 signal message billing under the "access charge " model.These file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 16 of concerns were not baseless as the FCC (as discussed at pages22-23 of my testimony) had already recognized the need forcarrlers that elected to implement an unbundled SS7signaling message structure to "acquire the appropriatemeasurlng equipment as need to implement such a plan.FCC Rcd 15982 16087 (para. 253) (1997) Moreover , the FCCnoted LECs that elected to implement the structure were evaluate how the implementation of these plans will affecttheir prospective customers.12 FCC Rcd. 15982 16090(para. 253) (1997) These same considerations apply hereparticularly since Qwest relied upon the FCC "access chargemodel for its current Idaho structure.That being the casethe facts demonstrate that Qwest chose to ignore the FCC'directives because it prematurely unbundled and filed itsIdaho SS7 signaling message structure prior to deploying the proper measurement equipment and because it did so wi thout substantive efforts to address Illuminet' s concerns. 4. THE COMMISSION SHOULD REJECT QWEST' S TESTIMONY AS IT MERELY CONFUSES THE RECORD Do you have any examples of Qwest' s attempt to confuse the record? Yes.For example , Qwest claims that Illuminet and its Co- Complainants don t really understand that the SS7 network a separate network , that access to it is not "exchange access " and that complainants incorrectly refer to SS7 messages as "traffic.See , e. g., McIntyre Testimony at page (lines 31-35), page (lines 17-18), and page (line 14) through page (line 9); Craig Testimony at page (line 5) through page (line 6), and page (line 23) file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 17 of through page (line 4)Is Qwest correct?No.These statements substantially misrepresent thefunction of an SS7 network for the apparent purpose ofdisguising the true nature of the facili ties and service atlssue.Of course , the SS7 network is separate in the sensethat it is composed of switches and transmission facilitieswhich are used solely for signaling and which carries no enduser traffic.But signaling has no independent purpose , itis necessarily interconnected to the network , which carriesend user customer voice and data traffic and functionssolely to control that network or to obtain and supplyinformation from databases relevant to that end usertraffic.The SS7 network does not , by itself , provideexchange serVlce , exchange access , or long distance service but it is an indispensable component to each and every one of those services.(As an aside traffic " is not a magic word , nor even a technical term and it is nei ther incorrect nor misleading to refer to messages composed of packets of bi ts transi ting the SS 7 network as "traffic " so long as it is clear from the context , as it is in Complainants testimony, whether it is signaling, data or voice traffic being referred to. In light of your answer do you agree wi th Mr. McIntyre analogy at page (lines 1-that the SS7 signaling network is similar to traffic signals? Generally, yes.Al though like many analogies it is not perfect , there are several conceptual similari ties.The file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 18 of most significant of these similarities is that like the SS7signaling network , traffic signs and signals , even thoughphysically distinct from the streets and highways are anintegral component of the land vehicle transportation system- wi thout them you would have traffic jams which effectivelybrings vehicle movement to a hal Further , some signs andsignals relate to the interstate highway system , some tostate highways , some to county roads and others to municipalstreets and are paid for in generally the same manner as thestreet or highway to which they relate.Moreover , thesignals and stoplights have no independent purpose wi thoutthe cars moving on the roadways just like SS7 messagesignaling has no distinct purposes wi thout the calls fromend users.When carried to its logical conclusiontherefore, Mr. McIntyre s analogy actually demonstrates thefallacies of his theories of this proceeding. Any other example you d like to share regarding Qwest' s efforts to confuse the record? At page (lines 16-18) of his testimony, Mr. Craig makes the sta tement tha t "ss 7 messages are not the equivalent of voice calls. Q :Did Illuminet make this claim? No.Illuminet knows that SS7 messages are not the same voice calls.Rather , Illuminet has demonstrated that the SS7 messages are an integral component of the end user traffic to which they are associated. Any other examples? file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 19 of Yes.Mr. McIntyre responds to a question at page 18 of histestimony regarding whether other states have "adopted theimproved SS7 rate structure " and he indicates that eight(8) have.Q :How is this confusing?Well , while Qwest may have access catalog or tariffrevisions in place in eight states identical to that atissue here , clearly Illuminet does not believe that thestructure is "improved" since Qwest cannot possiblyimplement that structure properly.I also note that whetherstates have "adopted" the tariff structure may be anoverstatement if , like Idaho , Qwest merely needs to file theCatalog revisions.Most importantly, however , is the factthat Qwest has not implemented the tariff structure in thefour (4)jurisdictions wi thin which Illuminet was able to challenge the revision.Specifically, Illuminet opposed the approval of the tariff in the States of Arizona , Utah Minnesota and Washington.After increased opposi tion to its tariff , Qwest withdrew its tariff proposal in Arizona , Utah and Washington.Similarly, in Minnesota , after the Minnesota Department of Commerce had issued over seventy data requests to Qwest concerning the proposed tariff and least one party having filed a motion to dismiss Qwest' s proposed tariff application , Qwest likewise wi thdrew that tariff filing as well.Thus , when confronted wi challenges , Qwest has wi thdrawn its filings that attempted to put in place the same intrastate SS7 message signaling structure that is at issue here. Do you agree wi th Mr. McIntyre at page (line 3-6) that file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Page 20 of the loading of the Illuminet carrier/ customer point codes intoQwest I S SS7 network should be viewed as Illuminet "requestingthat Qwest bill it for the SS7 message accessAbsolutely not.Illuminet has never acquiesced to thelmproper billing by Qwest , and Mr. McIntyre is clearlymistaken for the reasons stated before if he believes theLOA or Catalog provides this authori ty.Do you have any final example of where Qwest is attemptingto confuse the record?Yes.Mr. McIntyre at page (lines 20-22) infers thatComplainants are somehow suggesting that "signaling costsshould only be recovered for certain classes " of messages.Is Mr. McIntyre correct?No.Mr. McIntyre I s statement is itself "confusing and mi s 1 e a din g (McIntyre Testimony at page 23 , lines 20-21) How recovery of SS7 signaling message costs between the Illuminet carrier/ customer and Qwest is determined addressed in the arrangements in place between those carrlers for the associated end user traffic , only one of which is the Catalog. What then would you have the Commission do? The Commission should rej ect the testimony, concluding as I have and as the record supports , that Qwest has spun a tale to divert attention from the obvious conclusion that Qwest cannot properly implement the intrastate SS7 signaling message structure reflected in its Catalog. file:1 I A: \Rebuttal Florack.asc 10/23/2002 Does this end your rebuttal testimony?Yes.CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE Page 21 of I HEREBY CERTIFY that on the 18th day of October , 2002I caused a true and correct copy of the foregoing REBUTTALTESTIMONY OF PAUL FLORACK ON BEHALF OF ILLUMINET , INC. to beserved by the method indicated below , and addressed to thefollowing:Mary S. HobsonStoel Rives LLP101 S. Capitol Blvd., Suite1900Boise, ID 83702-5958Stephanie Boyett-ColganQwest Services Corp.1801 California st., 47th FloorDenver, CO 80202Conley WardGivens Pursley LLPPost Office Box 2720Boise, ID 83701Clay SturgisSenior ManagerMoss Adams LLP601 W. 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